[Ohio Retro Series]

If you have any questions regarding the Ohio Retro Series....... ask them here.

The ORS BOD will reply to all questions.

[Gary Adams]

Looking at the race day schedule posted, I think in terms of helping to grow the series that Flexi should be the first class to be run. I believe if you ask flexi racers, i.e., the "new guys", to hang around all day marshalling for the other classes, that they will quickly lose interest.

Further, there are enough of us with extra cars to loan to the flexi racers to race in the other classes to get their feet wet with the level of competition and skill required to make the step up to F1 and CanAm. I, for one, would be more than willing to loan cars to flexi racers who wanted to get some experience running the Retro cars, and I'm sure other racers would be generous and share as well.

Just my two cents worth, but I believe you should seriously look at racing flexi first.


Gary Adams

[The Number of]

The concours champion ship is really tough on finishing 2nd. 1st and 3rd get the same amount of points.

[The Number of]

In Retro-Pro,Will it be D-3 rules like last year at TT or IRRA Retro Anglewinder or a combo of both? Need a little more guidance than front and rear clearance and min. rear tire diameter. Thanks Bill

[Larry Mattingly]

How will racers be seeded after the ever exciting 'qualifying'...

LM

[Ohio Retro Series]

To answer the first few questions and / or comments.

It was decided to fun Flexi last because we felt that the majority of Flexi racers would be locals that would not have the long drive home that others might. Our thought was to give our traveling racers an earlier leave time which hopefully would encouage more travel to out-of-town races.

The points listed for Concours are incorrect. It should read: 1st - 3 pts. 2nd - 2pts and 3rd - 1pt. A correction is on the way.

The Retro Pro rules are based closely on D3 rules and are the same that Tom Thumb has been using in house. The two changes that were made include a "front to back" clearance minimum of .050 and the allowing of .790 minmum rear tires. The latter change was made so racers could get more use out of their worn down Can-Am and F1 tires. The final rules will be posted soon.

Seeding after qualifying will always be dependant on the number of entries. The process will be similar to the USRA consi/semi program but NO ONE will be seeded directly into any main.

[Mike Patterson]

Why try to run 4 classes in one day? Why not run 3 classes and start a little later in the morning? I might be able to make some of the TR races then.

I like Gary's idea of running Retro Flexi GT first. Then I wouldn't miss anything .

[The Number of]

Ohio Retro Series, on 12 May 2010 - 08:12 PM, said:

The points listed for Concours are incorrect. It should read: 1st - 3 pts. 2nd - 2pts and 3rd - 1pt. A correction is on the way.

The Retro Pro rules are based closely on D3 rules and are the same that Tom Thumb has been using in house. The two changes that were made include a "front to back" clearance minimum of .050 and the allowing of .790 minmum rear tires. The latter change was made so racers could get more use out of their worn down Can-Am and F1 tires. The final rules will be posted soon.

Thanks for the quick reply. Bill

[Gary Adams]

Ohio Retro Series, on 12 May 2010 - 08:12 PM, said:

The Retro Pro rules are based closely on D3 rules and are the same that Tom Thumb has been using in house. The two changes that were made include a "front to back" clearance minimum of .050 and the allowing of .790 minmum rear tires. The latter change was made so racers could get more use out of their worn down Can-Am and F1 tires. The final rules will be posted soon.

Seeding after qualifying will always be dependant on the number of entries. The process will be similar to the USRA consi/semi program but NO ONE will be seeded directly into any main.

Thank you for the fast reply. Great to see qualifying make a return. Sounds like it will be similar to the Tech 'n Go we ran at The Sano last year, is that correct? I felt that worked exceptionally well. Also, I'm especially glad to see the .790 tire spec, as we won't have to discard so many pairs of $9-$10 tires!

[GB14x]

I really like everything so far, especially the smaller tire rules for two of the four classes. What about the race fees? I'm hoping you'll keep it to a reasonable level, no need to buy awards & so forth. How about some inexpensive box stickers?

[Larry Mattingly]

Gary

Good to see your back...

Hope to see you at Tom Thumb, even though I detest qualifying...

LM

[Gary Adams]

Larry, good to hear from you. Hope you're feeling better, I know it's been a rough time for you.

Don't sweat the qualifying. As long as it's done properly and seeded fairly, I think you might grow to enjoy it. For me it was a smooth process in Chicago at The Sano last year, and I found it fairly simple to fall back into a qualifying mindset after running round robins.

Looking forward to seeing you and Rick at some of our races. Take care.


Gary Adams

[Larry Mattingly]

Hi Gary

Getting better every day. Don't need the cane and walker any longer...

I seriously doubt I will ever 'enjoy' qualifying... My personal opinion is that it is a waste of time and effort. But, it's not my series, so they can do what they want.

I'll probably just scratch in qualifying...

See you in September.

LM

[The Number of]

Larry Mattingly, on 13 May 2010 - 08:35 AM, said:

I'll probably just scratch in qualifying...

LM

I was pitted behind you at the R-4 and noticed that you scratched alot!

Good to see you are up and about Larry,keep a close eye on your diabetes and especially the feet,

having it myself I know what you are going through. Bill

[Larry Mattingly]

Bill

...

Thanks Bill...

It has my 'attention' now...

LM

[Lucky Me]

GB14x, on 13 May 2010 - 05:15 AM, said:

I really like everything so far, especially the smaller tire rules for two of the four classes. What about the race fees? I'm hoping you'll keep it to a reasonable level, no need to buy awards & so forth. How about some inexpensive box stickers?

I understand what Gary is saying and respect his opinion,however.... I think awards are in order for the ORS
I personally would not have a problem with a small contribution to help reward racers for there efforts and success. I am sure there are many ways to skin this cat, maybe the ORS will take this under consideration as well
as some conversation from other participating racers in the ORS series.

Thank you.

[Mark Wampler]

With regard to CanAm rules, are you enforcing strict IRRA rules. Are there any differences?

(Hello Gary)

[Ron Hershman]

GB14x, on 13 May 2010 - 05:15 AM, said:

I really like everything so far, especially the smaller tire rules for two of the four classes. What about the race fees? I'm hoping you'll keep it to a reasonable level, no need to buy awards & so forth. How about some inexpensive box stickers?

Race Fees..... 15.00 for the first class entered and 10.00 for each entered class after that. The extra 5 is for practice time on race day

Lucky Me, on 13 May 2010 - 10:54 AM, said:

I understand what Gary is saying and respect his opinion,however.... I think awards are in order for the ORS
I personally would not have a problem with a small contribution to help reward racers for there efforts and success. I am sure there are many ways to skin this cat, maybe the ORS will take this under consideration as well
as some conversation from other participating racers in the ORS series.

Thank you.

There will be more awards per day this year handed out. Wait and see.

Mark Wampler, on 13 May 2010 - 11:20 AM, said:

With regard to CanAm rules, are you enforcing strict IRRA rules. Are there any differences?

(Hello Gary)

F-1, Can-Am and Retro Flexi are using full and strict IRRA rules.

[Gary Adams]

Ohio Retro Series, on 12 May 2010 - 08:12 PM, said:

"It was decided to run Flexi last because we felt that the majority of Flexi racers would be locals that would not have the long drive home that others might. Our thought was to give our traveling racers an earlier leave time which hopefully would encouage more travel to out-of-town races."

After giving this some additional thought, I'm afraid I still have to disagree with this line of thinking. Consider this: You're asking Flexi racers to wait around all day for their race, in order to give out-of-towners an earlier start back to encourage more out of town racers. As it stands now, it is no great difference in distance to attend races only being held at two locations. Racers who want to participate will travel whether it is to Tom Thumb or T/R, they're not that far apart.

Further, when the out-of-towners leave earlier, who will be around to marshal for the Flexi guys who have been marshalling Retro races all day? Doesn't seem quite fair to me for those guys. Especially if we are the least bit interested in growing this series! That's why I offered to provide loaner cars for Flexi drivers who want to experience what it's like to qualify and mix it up with the more seasoned racers. Not to mention it will help those in the business to sell more products at higher prices as these new racers get the building bug, and want to move up in classes, controllers, motors, the whole works.

Seems to me everyone wins in this scenario: Ohio Retro Series grows with the infusion of Flexi racers; Flexi racers gain exposure to the next step up in the hobby; track owners sell more products to those racers wanting to learn and grow who will need more and more expensive parts and pieces to become competitive; and finally, the level of competition itself will begin to grow as newer racers become more accustomed to the building and competing, resulting in increasing numbers of racers at each turnout.

I hope I'm not alone in my willingness to loan cars to the Flexi racers. To perpetuate and grow this hobby, we geezers are going to have to show them how it's done, and help them along the way. Everyone wins, in my opinion.

Climbing down off my soapbox now, thanks for listening to me, and please, other racers, let me know how you feel about a loaner program.

[Ron Hershman]

I would also like to point out that this coming years entry fees are the same as last years.