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[Don Wedding]

Just picked up this chassis and cannot identify it. Also This K&B 1/4 hex head tool. Both are new to me.

 

Input welcomed.

 

[don.siegel]

Looks like an Ulrich Stocker chassis - they made two like this, the Super Sport and the Stocker. 

 

Not sure about that key - would have thought something for their gas engines, but it does have Aurora marked on it... 

 

Don 

[Don Wedding]

Thanks, Don  for your wealth of knowledge.

[don.siegel]

You're very welcome, Don. 

 

I was very aware of this chassis because an Italian buddy just asked me yesterday if I could find one for him! If you ever want to sell it, I think I have a buyer... 

 

Don 

[Bill from NH]

Could that K & B key be used with their collet nuts?  Not a key, but Champion made a double-ended tool for their 2 sizes of collets. They included one with every 36D RTR car.

[don.siegel]

Sounded logical Bill, but just realized that the K&B collet nuts are behind the wheels, so that couldn't be it... 

 

Don 

[Bill from NH]

Champion's collet nuts were on the outside, that's why I asked. 

[Bill Seitz]

K&B also had a small, stamped steel, double-ended, open-end wrench for their collet and other nuts (3/16 &1/4). It's one of the few things from the 60's I still own. I think it came with the K&B Lotus 30 I had. The tool pictured above is unfamiliar, and I can't imagine it as any sort of slot car tool.

[Flathead]

The key is for collet nuts and came with the K&B sportsman rtr, possibly others. It's the correct depth to set the collet spur gear from the end of the axle & sportsman's wheels have the collet nut on the front of the wheel (I think from memory wheels have a double taper, so collet can be fitted both ways round, but not 100% on that)

[don.siegel]

Thanks for that Lee - good memory! 

 

Don 

[Bill from NH]

I recently saw a K&B Sportsman om eBay. It looked like it had brass jam nuts on the outsides of its wheels.

[don.siegel]

No, it's the nut and collet on the outside - but couldn't get the wheel off without major surgery to see if it has a double taper... 

 

Don 

[Flathead]

My Sportsman with original wheels, spur gear is also taper lock and depth of key sets the gear in correct position on axle, I'd take a wheel off to check for double taper for you Don but I can't find where I put the special K&B socket wrench to do it 🤣

[Martin]

I actually really like this collet system, wheels run super true.

Once you figure out that you back the nut off half a turn then give it a sharp tap (with a suitable size tube) to release the wheel, it's a good system.

It helps if you support the wheel from the back side. I used a small open ended wrench clamped in a vice to rest the wheel on.

[Bill from NH]

I ran Champion's taper locs (collets) from 1967-69 for most of my rear wheels & pinions. You didn't lose anything as long as they were properly tightened down. Champion provided specially ground axles for the wheels. Fronts were independently rotating held on with lock nuts on the outside very similar to those used on current retro chassis.