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#1 chasbeeman

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Posted 10 June 2022 - 09:43 AM

I've not built one yet but was wondering what magnets are best overall. Poly neos in proslot 4002's or hawk/hawk 6 cans. Jk also has the hard sintered neos (chrome) in the hawk 6 can. The arms are timed at 48° so probably not a good fit for a road course racer. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Posted 10 June 2022 - 10:13 AM

Only a good fit in a drag bar car.

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Posted 10 June 2022 - 02:27 PM

Been running them here in wing cars since they showed up, as well as the ProSlot variation.

 

Ball bearing Hawk 6 setups with the black poly neos...reliable and faster than a Gp12, but definitely more tail heavy.

 

The silver hard neos weigh more and are stronger than necessary...except for the thinner options that can be found out there...

 

All this is based on actually having to drive on a flat Engleman instead of committing motor torture on punched King.


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Posted 10 June 2022 - 02:31 PM

Jim, I based my recommendation on knowing Chas runs on a club circuit, with shorter, "self-housed" tracks.

 

IIRC, he has the only 8 lane commercial track. (approx. 100 ft. long?)


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Posted 10 June 2022 - 04:41 PM

Jim, I based my recommendation on knowing Chas runs on a club circuit, with shorter, "self-housed" tracks.

 

IIRC, he has the only 8 lane commercial track. (approx. 100 ft. long?)

OK, you're probably right, but I've always subscribed to trying too much to see what's enough...from someone who raced 24s and 26-27s on an American Orange (100') back in the dark ages... :crazy: 


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Posted 10 June 2022 - 04:57 PM

I forgot to add that I don't think they run wing cars. Lol
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Posted 10 June 2022 - 05:04 PM

OK, you're probably right, but I've always subscribed to trying too much to see what's enough...from someone who raced 24s and 26-27s on an American Orange (100') back in the dark ages... :crazy: 

back in the early mid seventies we had an orange track in Youngstown, ohio...i always did good but preferred king tracks back then..always 24 wire, never had the nerve for 23 gauge...but i remember

cutting a lap where i think my finger cramped and went full punch thru the esses, was able to duplicate a backup, but i held the lap record for years and years, i was actually shocked and in awe of that car...the whole raceway stood still for a few moments


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Posted 11 June 2022 - 01:47 PM

I'd like to run fk type wing cars but would have to be a special race rather than a weekly class. I was wondering if the chrome neos would be too powerful making the armature cog heavily.
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Posted 11 June 2022 - 02:10 PM

It most likely will have a heavy cog, but still run fine.

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