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#1 Jay Guard

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 11:22 PM

After putting this race off for a couple of years due to Covid concerns, it's finally here!

Petite Sebring Four-Hour Enduro

'BATTLE OF THE RACEWAYS'

Oct. 16, 2022, at Orange Crush Raceway, DeLand, FL

 

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The race will be held on Sunday, Oct. 16, at my home raceway in DeLand, FL. Doors will open at 8 AM and the race will start no later than 12 noon and should last about five hours. We will have a three-man team from each of the Gator Region 'Retro' Raceways (Melbourne, Daytona, Winter Garden, Pinellas Park) and it should be a lot of fun!!!
 
The cars will be IRRA-legal GT Coupes with hand-out motors, a spec 11 tooth pinion (racer provided), and hand-out tires in order to lessen the thrash time and to maximize the practice driving time for the guys that have never run on this track, which is an easy-to-learn 88' four-lane track very similar to a reverse "orange" (see pics above). There will be a mandatory power-on motor change at the halfway point so that should equalize motors to some extent. One cool race feature (as at Sebring) will be that the last hour of the race will be with the raceway completely blacked-out and only the lights of the cars to run with; I've done this before and it is really cool.

 

Note: Braid depth varies a bit but generally it is right around .025" deep and is in excellent condition.
 
There is a good bit of pit space but I would like each team to bring no more than two pit boxes. I have everything any race team could possibly need (including an awesome body mounting jig) and my main pit space will be set up as a kind of 'hot pit' for all teams to use.

The teams are...

Melbourne: Terry Tawney, Dennis Demole, Josh White

Daytona: Jay Guard, Danny Zona, Grant Goerner

Winter Garden: Marcus Ramos, Ralph Josey, Dale King

Pinellas Park: Ed Hoffman, Jeff Bonanno, Rick Moore

 
As you can see from the list of drivers signed up this is going to be a very competitive race but I think just plain fun at the same time, hey, isn't that what slot car racing should be about? Entry fee per team is $75 and that includes two CR102 hand-out motors (teams can buy one extra), two pair of tires, and a lighting kit. The entry fee also includes awesome seven-layer dip 'n chips, a lunch of croissant sandwiches, dessert, and all types of beverages. Greg Wells will be the race director and race reporter.


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Posted 05 October 2022 - 06:15 AM

Looks like fun! Wish I could be there! :)


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Posted 05 October 2022 - 08:02 AM

I will be there to be a part of the P-1 team for the inaugural event.

 

Since the number of drivers is limited due to space, in the following years, I will gladly rotate out, giving other drivers a chance to enjoy the event.

 


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Posted 05 October 2022 - 08:41 AM

Jay's track is so fun to drive on.

I can't wait.
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Posted 05 October 2022 - 12:20 PM

I'll be arriving at Jay's late Friday night and on Saturday. I am going to try to get set up to stream the enduro via Facebook Live.

 

Just tested embedding a Facebook Live stream at Slotblog and it looks like that will be no problem. So even people who avoid Facebook should be able to view the event.

 

I have no idea how the video will look during the last 'nightime' hour, but it should be interesting, to say the least.

With those dozen experienced 'baby seal clubbing' racers, this should be a pretty good enduro!


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Posted 07 October 2022 - 12:49 PM

With those dozen experienced 'baby seal clubbing' racers, this should be a pretty good enduro!

 

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Posted 09 October 2022 - 09:19 PM

The track was cleaned, spray-glued, and run-in today using a glue formula similar to what Fast Eddie's and Daytona were using at their recent races. I'm planning on handing out two pair of Mid-America soft Wonder tires on .470" diameter carbon fiber hubs which I believe will be enough to run the entire race with. 

 

There will be six rotations through the four-lane track with 10 minutes on each lane with only one minute for a lane change. During the lane change the only thing that will be allowed is to "pop" the body, push in body pins, and put on a new lane change sticker; no tools or lubricants will be allowed at lane changes.

 

Be aware, there will be very few track calls of any kind!!! This means if someone calls "track' or "rider," the power probably will not be turned off. It will be incumbent on the drivers to look out for their fellow drivers and realize that if they don't stop when someone calls out, it could easily be their car being damaged this or next time. This is a long race and that's why it's an enduro and not a sprint, so looking ahead and driving for the the long term will be in yours, and everyone else's, favor.

 

At the three-hour point the raceway will be blacked-out and and the teams will be required to pull their cars off and turn on their cars' lights for night driving.

 

This should be fun!!


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Posted 13 October 2022 - 02:09 PM

BTW...

 

After the race there will be a very informal get-together at my Tiki Hut for any racers wanting to stay over and do a bit of after race "analysis."

 

Also, bring your swimming trunks if you think you might want to take a dip in the pool after the race.

 

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Posted 14 October 2022 - 12:45 PM

Looks like major fun for the day!! Enjoy! I hope the feed works so we can visit on Sunday!!


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Posted 14 October 2022 - 01:51 PM

Hi Jay,
 
You are a month too early!!! I will headed to Florida on the 29th of October. See you all in November.

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Posted 16 October 2022 - 07:50 AM

The racers have all arrived except for DZ, who has raced on Jay's track before, and Grant Goerner. Lots of practicing happening. Wait, there's the front doorbell and it is DZ. Now just waiting on Grant.

Going to try to get the live stream going by 11 AM. I've never done a Facebook Live stream before but it's looks pretty easy and I have successfully tested embedding a Facebook Live stream at Slotblog. So check back here in an hour or two. 

 

Gonna by a fun day and I am sure I'll be doing a of marshaling during practice...


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Posted 16 October 2022 - 08:32 AM


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Posted 16 October 2022 - 10:14 AM


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Posted 16 October 2022 - 10:36 AM

BTW...

 

After the race there will be a very informal get-together at my Tiki Hut for any racers wanting to stay over and do a bit of after race "analysis."

 

Also, bring your swimming trunks if you think you might want to take a dip in the pool after the race.

 

I'm sorry retirement has gone so poorly for you, Jay! ;)


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Posted 16 October 2022 - 10:40 AM

If you are viewing this Slotblog thread on a mobile device, the image embedded here may be too large to display on your device.  

If that is the case, please go to Slotblog's Facebook page to watch the live stream.
 
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Posted 16 October 2022 - 11:25 AM

Practice for the enduro has ended and the cars are going through tech right now. We should be racing soon!

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Posted 16 October 2022 - 01:42 PM

What's the lap count?
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Posted 16 October 2022 - 04:29 PM

Sorry for the problems with the live feed embedded here.

First we found out that the charging cord connected to the iPhone was in fact not charging the device and that resulted in the first video being ended.

Then our cobbled-together iPhone mount on top on the tripod failed and the iPhone fell to the floor. To correct the orientation of the embed, the stream had to be stopped and restarted.

Hopefully, all three segments have been saved and can be posted here later.


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Posted 16 October 2022 - 04:29 PM


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Posted 16 October 2022 - 04:32 PM

What's the lap count?


I don't have any way to show both the track action and the lap counter at the same time.

Full heat-by-heat lap totals will be posted later. After the race is over, I'll post the final lap totals promptly.

We're reconfiguring the raceway for the six dark heats where the cars have to have lights on them. This should be interesting, as we have no idea how well it is going to work for the racers nor for the live stream.


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Posted 17 October 2022 - 12:06 PM

Here are the results from the Petite Sebring Four-Hour Enduro (more detailed results to follow).

 

1)  Melbourne (Dennis Demole, Terry Tawney, Josh White).......... 4,100 laps

2)  Daytona (Grant Groener, Jay Guard, Danny Zona).................. 3,883 

3)  Pinellas Park (Jeff Bonanno, Eddie Hoffman, Rick Moore)...... 3,133 

4)  Winter Garden (Ralph Josey, Dale King, Marcus Ramos)........ 2,765

 

I believe a great time was had by all that attended. As this was the first 'big' race I've held at my track, there was bit of a learning curve but everything did go fine and it will be even better next year. Great race directing by Greg Wells kept the race moving with a minimum of track calls.


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Posted 18 October 2022 - 10:48 AM

HERE are some photos and short videos I shot of the event.

I had a great time. The food and beverages were excellent and it was a pleasure to have a chance to race on Jay's personal track.

Congrats to Team Melbourne. They were fast in practice and throughout the race. They had very few mistakes if any I can recall.

Thanks to my teammates for setting up a great car to run. We had our troubles but persevered. Part of what makes enduros so fun. Can't wait to do it again.


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Posted 18 October 2022 - 12:28 PM

Awesome track, food, and people. My first enduro was a complete blast!!!  

 

Terry, your car was great! Thank you!


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Posted 26 October 2022 - 12:31 PM

Sorry for the delay in posting the detailed results, guys. The eight-hour drive back to Atlanta got in the way, as did a big event at the train museum, plus my first (and hopefully last!) experience with sciatica. I never knew it was that painful or debilitating... Plus, compiling the numbers for a 24-heat race from pictures of a computer screen was a lot more time-consuming that I expected it to be.

As Jay mentioned in the race announcement, this enduro has been in the planning stages for over three years. And he wanted to give the race have a few special 'twists,' i.e. a mandatory motor change halfway through, as well as the final hour with the raceway darkened so the cars would have to be fitted with head and taillights.

Then there was his 'Battle of the Raceways' spin, in that the teams were composed of racers representing the four FL commercial raceways: Fast Eddie's Slot Cars and Raceway in Pinellas Park, P-1 Slot Car Raceway in Winter Garden, Raceway.biz in Melbourne (note that Raceway.biz has recently been passed to new owners who have renamed it Slot Car Raceway and Hobby Shop), and Hobbies, Slot Cars and RC Emporium in South Daytona. 

It would be rather difficult to assemble a group of a dozen faster racers anywhere in the US IMO. I personally know nine of the racers and have raced with one of them for over thirty years and several others for over fifteen years. Only three of the guys were new acquaintances, although they are all Slotblog members so I knew their names. Considering how fast all these guys are, I was happy to be conned into being the race director: it was going to be a far easier job that racing against them! As far as I can recall, this is the first time I have ever race-directed a full race. Can't believe I was dumb enough to agree to do a four-hour enduro as my first one...

Again, here are the teams: 

 

Melbourne – Dennis Demole, Terry Tawney, Josh White

Daytona  – Grant Groener, Jay Guard, Danny Zona

Pinellas Park – Jeff Bonanno, Eddie Hoffman, Rick Moore

Winter Garden – Ralph Josey, Dale King, Marcus Ramos

 

There was no qualifying and lanes were randomly assigned. The race format was 24 ten-minute heats, thus each team went across the four lanes six times. The easiest way to set up the SRT lap counting system was to go straight across the track, red to orange to blue to black and then back to red. We decided on 1-1/2 minutes between heats, as all the drivers were allowed to do was to change the lane sticker, pop out the body if needed, and straighten or fluff the braids. Anything else, even oiling the car, had to be done under power. Each team's driver was required to run eight of the 24 heats, although these did not have to be in any defined order.

 

It as clear from the beginning of the enduro that the cars were very evenly matched. In several of the heats, the time spread between all four cars was just 0.11-0.12 seconds! But if you have run enduros before, you know all too well that speed isn't the determining factor. As a general rule, the winner of an enduro is the car that doesn't break or get torn up (or that can be repaired quickly) and that pattern continued at the Petite Sebring Four-Hour.

Since the heat totals is a very long list, I'm going to start it in a new post.


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Posted 26 October 2022 - 12:42 PM

Heat 1

Winter Garden - 157 laps

Daytona - 176

Pinellas Park - 172

Melbourne - 165

 

Heat 2

Pinellas Park - 348 laps

Daytona - 342

Melbourne - 334

Winter Garden - 327

 

Heat 3

Daytona - 519 laps

Melbourne - 511

Pinellas Park - 501

Winter Garden - 487

 

Heat 4

Daytona - 689 laps

Melbourne - 685

Pinellas Park - 663

Winter Garden - 640

 

Heat 5

Melbourne - 857 laps

Daytona - 857 

Pinellas Park - 841

Winter Garden - 801

 

Heat 6

Melbourne - 1,034 laps

Daytona - 1,025 

Pinellas Park - 1,010

Winter Garden - 962

 

Heat 7

Melbourne - 1,217 laps

Daytona - 1,205 

Pinellas Park - 1,184

Winter Garden - 1,129

 

Heat 8

Melbourne - 1,395

Daytona - 1,380

Pinellas Park - 1,357

Winter Garden - 1,302

 

Heat 9

Melbourne - 1,570 laps

Daytona - 1,531

Pinellas Park - 1,517

Winter Garden - 1,397

 

Heat 10

Melbourne - 1,744 laps

Pinellas Park - 1,696

Daytona - 1,641

Winter Garden - 1,531

 

Heat 11

Melbourne - 1,923 laps

Pinellas Park - 1,866

Daytona - 1,766

Winter Garden - 1,704

 

Heat 12

Melbourne - 2,106 laps

Pinellas Park - 1,961

Winter Garden - 1,874

Daytona - 1,837

 

Heat 13

Melbourne - 2,206 laps

Pinellas Park - 2,141

Daytona - 2,013

Winter Garden - 1,941

 

Heat 14

Melbourne - 2,373 laps

Pinellas Park - 2,308

Daytona - 2,184

Winter Garden - 2,111

 

Heat 15

Melbourne  2,556

Pinellas Park  2,476

Daytona  2,362

Winter Garden  2,277

 

Heat 16

Melbourne - 2,740 laps

Pinellas Park - 2,653

Daytona - 2,538

Winter Garden - 2,427

 

Heat 17

Melbourne - 2,918 laps

Pinellas Park - 2,825

Daytona - 2,720

Winter Garden - 2,587

 

Heat 18

Melbourne - 3,096 laps

Pinellas Park-  2,991

Daytona - 2,891

Winter Garden - 2,750

 

Heat 19

Melbourne - 3,258 laps

Pinellas Park - 3,121

Daytona - 3,066

Winter Garden - 2,765

 

Heat 20

Melbourne - 3,430 laps

Daytona - 3,233

Pinellas Park - 3,127

Winter Garden - 2,765

 

Heat 21

Melbourne - 3,601 laps

Daytona - 3,402

Pinellas Park - 3,133

Winter Garden - 2,765

 

Heat 22

Melbourne - 3,767 laps

Daytona -  3,577

Pinellas Park - 3,133

Winter Garden - 2,765

 

Heat 23

Melbourne - 3,932 laps

Daytona - 3,738

Pinellas Park - 3,133

Winter Garden - 2,765

 

Heat 24 - final heat

Melbourne - 4,100 laps

Daytona - 3,883

Pinellas Park - 3,133

Winter Garden - 2,765


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