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#1 Randy Hoyle

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Posted 28 January 2023 - 08:42 PM

Hello, all,

 

I recently bid and won a pitbox full of mostly pre-1970 parts. quite a lot of chassis, motors, etc. There were a couple of chassis that were at the top of the heap that I thought might be Team Nutley stuff based on the style of the build. I hope that one of the members might be able to define who this builder is?

 

Please see the attached photos. The brass was really dirty but cleaned up nicely! The motors that came with the chassis are mura NCC20s. The cans did not have any paint on them and had a light rust that I was able to Scotchbrite off. I am in process of painting the cans and cleaning the arms and endbells.

 

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Posted 28 January 2023 - 10:00 PM

I don't have a name. Did the chassis come from Washington state? I see a few somewhat unusual features, but they don't help identify the builder. The location of the drop arm hole is further back than Parma's. Yours are like the ones I got from Camen in the '70s. Your chassis have pans made from brass strips rather than stamped pans. REHCO sold chassis with pans like this, but their chassis were a much simpler design. I think this chassis once had a motor mounting plate on the left side which has been removed. Your droparm hinge is rather unique. Most anyone with a soldering iron could have built it. If you have any commercial raceways in your area, take it with you to see if anyone local can shed any light who might have built it.


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Posted 29 January 2023 - 02:15 PM

Can’t say there is any particular “fingerprints” in the building techniques for this chassis to point it in the direction of a “name” builder from the era.

With that being said I would say it came from the bench of a local racer who had some above average soldering and Dremel skills.

As one of the other posters noted it does look like this chassis may have had some modifications and/or repairs in the arc of its competition life.

In summary the legacy of a dedicated racer that we all wish were more numerous these days..


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Posted 29 January 2023 - 02:51 PM

I'm fairly certain this chassis design is not pre-1970. The combination of design elements leads me to believe it's a scratchbuilt one-off, not a production chassis, or is a production chassis that's been modified. I'm not particularly versed on evolution of 70's chassis, but the fact this one is plumber only pan movement indicates it was for a "spec" class, probably NCC 12/G12. Chassis like this were used into the early 80's for a variety of local classes.

 

Brass and wire chassis were readily cloned and modified by racers and small builders, so lacking identifying marks or trademark design, it can be very difficult to positively identify.



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Posted 29 January 2023 - 06:27 PM

Thanks for your input on this.

The seller was from Greenfield Massachusetts so no, it is not from my home state.

Some of the other parts included 3 Cox iso-fulcrum chassis with 2 sets of front wheels and axles and a Cox motor that is correct for the chassis, No Cucaracha body's-I can't believe these prices cars and parts are going for those Cucarachas. I am hoping to get a couple of used but not abused bodies to build these! There were a bunch of motors that included a dyna rewind 26-D motor,a bunch of 26-D Champion motors, A lenz 36D motor,a 16D dyna rewind armature with blue epoxy, a jail door inline chassis set up for 26-D, tools,tires, gears,parma and mrc controllers, it took me days to go through all the stuff and begin cleaning and restoring. The Hoffman box has a couple of large silver cobra custom rewind sticker's on the inside of the lid and a upstate new york sticker on the top of the box lid and all of the bodies were junk 



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Posted 29 January 2023 - 06:46 PM

Lots of racers built their own chassis. Very few of them, even the good ones, are of any significance today. If it wasn't raced by a famous racer or built by a famous builder, it's just another old chassis.

 

But! I enjoy looking at them and reading what others think. So thanks for sharing! :good:


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Posted 29 January 2023 - 09:43 PM

I lived in eastern Massachusetts from 1969-78. Greenfield is in the western part of the state, but I never heard of a Greenfield area raceway while I lived down there, In the late '90s & early 2000s a guy named Bob had a bunch of used tracks that he used to open & close a number of Redline Raceways. One of these locations was Holyoke, MA some 30 mi. for Greenfield. Just a guess, but your box of cars may have been run at Holyoke.


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