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#1 rvec

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 07:43 PM

“Ron’s Body Shop” in Winston, Oregon has created some of the best-looking slot car bodies I have seen. Our spy cam has spotted a couple of new builds for a proposed class dubbed “Slammers”. This class was inspired by the NASTE group in the Portland, Oregon area who have been racing these cars since early 22. Below are images of Ron’s projects.
 

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Below is a copy of the NASTE Slammer rules. We will use the same chassis rules as our True Scale NASCAR class which is quite similar. The differences will be that the rear track shall be 3.25 inches and the front wheels will be the ProTrack front wheels and may not extend beyond the bodywork. Motors will be limited to Deathstar or ProSlot 16d sealed power plants. In this way, all that will be required to is a body swap from True Scale NASCAR to Slammers
Topic: NEW Class on the Horizon! SLAMMERS!

Bodies:
1/24 and 1/25 NASCAR model car kit bodies from 1980 to 2007. Bodies can be extensively cut to resemble extreme modified cars.
Body can be trimmed by removing material from the bottom sides (rocker panel area) to a minimum overall height of 1.750 inches at the roof’s highest point. The measurement for tech inspection will be taken with the body mounted on the chassis, and measured from bottom of chassis to roof’s highest point. More material may be removed from the front portion of the body than the rear, to achieve a slight rake when the body is positioned onto the chassis.
The front fascia of the body must remain intact (headlight area and grill opening), however the front air dam may be removed. The front leading edge shall maintain a vertical profile with a minimum height of .225”.
Roof A and C pillars may not be modified (no chopped tops).
Rear wheel openings may be enlarged for tire clearance.
Front wheel opens may be cut out of fender completely to allow tires to extend above fenders and hood area. Cuts may be made into hood sides to allow for tire clearance.
Mesh screen will be used to replace the front clear plastic window, and the clear plastic rear window will be eliminated.
The rear of the body may be cut off to shorten the overall length of the body.
A replacement rear panel must be added when the rear of the body is cut off. The panel may include the rear spoiler.
Rear spoiler height must not exceed .400” (measured from the top center portion of the rear deck lid). Rear spoiler may be no wider than the body.
Body must display numbers on both sides and the roof. Numbers must be a minimum of 1/2" in height.
Body must have full driver's tray/interior with a driver figure.

Chassis:
Must use a Scholer, 2NASTE Chassis, Sloting Plus SP800001, the Scaleauto SC-8001c or SC-8002c chassis.
No soldering on chassis except the bushings for the axles and where noted for strengthening purposes.
Allowed modifications to chassis: you can cut a cooling hole under the motor if the chassis is not equipped with one. *You can strengthen the guide tongue any way you want or built a new one. Must use stock front and rear axle carriers. *You can strengthen the axle carrier using any method you want. You can make your own pans out of any material to be bolted to the "rattle pan" only. You can make a front pan. You can make your own motor mount or stiffen up the stock one if need be. You can stiffen up the "rattle pan", J-B weld with piano wire along and across the pan works very well. May ream out axle housings to fit American bushings or bearings. May extend the wheelbase if need be with a home made system.
Track clearance will be .055". Front tires must touch the track.

Tires:
Front tires to be a minimum of .950" diameter X minimum .600" wide. May be coated.
Rear tires to be a minimum of 1.00". All tires must be black.

Motor:
Parma Sealed S16D, Pro Slot ( PS 2001 or PS2003 ). May re-build motor with stock parts. You may use bearings on both ends of motor.

Tracking:
Front track = 3.300" maximum.
Rear track = 3.400" maximum.
These rules can be changed if needed.

Below are images of a few NASTE Slammers.
 

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 07:59 PM

Should be a fun class to run Rich!  Anyone running resin bodies?


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Posted 03 March 2023 - 09:08 PM

Should be a fun class to run Rich!  Anyone running resin bodies?

No, just plastic.  


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Posted 21 March 2023 - 07:57 AM

Ron is building Slammers for many of the guys. Below are images of progress
 

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Posted 21 March 2023 - 01:12 PM

Beautiful cars and a great concept.

 

As far as I know nobody races full size cars like this anywhere. That is a shame. 


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Posted 21 March 2023 - 07:29 PM

Beautiful cars and a great concept.

 

As far as I know nobody races full size cars like this anywhere. That is a shame. 

Hi,

The NASTE group in the Portland, Oregon area runs these cars as well. We got our inspiration from them.  As a note of interest, NASTE got their inspiration from a post on Home Racing World from a member of the Shoreline Model Raceway Club in CT.  See the link below for images of these cars.  BTW, our rendition cuts down the front of the car much more severely than Shoreline's rides

 

https://www.hrwforum...-more-1-25-mods


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Posted 21 March 2023 - 08:36 PM

Hi,

The NASTE group in the Portland, Oregon area runs these cars as well. We got our inspiration from them.  As a note of interest, NASTE got their inspiration from a post on Home Racing World from a member of the Shoreline Model Raceway Club in CT.  See the link below for images of these cars.  BTW, our rendition cuts down the front of the car much more severely than Shoreline's rides

 

https://www.hrwforum...-more-1-25-mods

Great I am glad others are slot racing cars along this line.

 

I was saying I don't know anyone running 1/1 race cars like this, and it is a shame.


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Posted 10 April 2023 - 08:24 AM

With Ron finished with everyone's cars and the guys anxious to race them, it was time to get my own built. On Saturday, Ron helped mark the car.  Knowing where and how much to cut was a real game changer.  All of the cutting and fitting work was tedious but I managed to get it all done in about three hours on Sunday.  After stretching the body, it is now ready for paint. Below are a few images. My plan is to race these cars at Electron next time we meet on April 17, 2023. Check out the race report at that time.
 

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Posted 10 April 2023 - 01:08 PM

Should be a fun class to run Rich!  Anyone running resin bodies?

 

What would the advantage of resin be? Isn't resin very heavy relative to styrene plastic?

 

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Posted 10 April 2023 - 02:53 PM

Guys,

 

Nobody is running resin cars. Our sister track carries plenty of plastic 1/25 NASCAR in the year range we allow at a very cheap price.  Resin cars would likely be heavier.  The only advantage is that one could create or buy a print file that is unique (not a NASCAR to begin with). That would be cool and then the body could be printed in resin or cast. 


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Posted 11 April 2023 - 09:03 AM

Below are the Electron Raceway Rules (similar to but not identical to the NW rules)

 

The rules for this class are follow the KISS principle (Keep it simple stupid). Only a body swap and front track adjustment is needed to compete in this class

  • Chassis/Motor combinations are exactly the same as our Sports Car, Trans-Am, and NASCAR classes
  • Front and rear track specifications are the same as our NASCAR class (3.17 inches front but cannot extend beyond the bodywork, 3.25 inches rear but can extend beyond the bodywork)
  • Bodies shall be 1/25 scale NASCAR kits representing cars from 1980-2007and  cut to represent extreme modified cars
    • Body can be trimmed by removing material from the bottom sides (rocker panel area) to a minimum overall height of 1.750 inches at the roof’s highest point. The measurement for tech inspection will be taken with the body mounted on the chassis, and measured from bottom of chassis to roof’s highest point. More material may be removed from the front portion of the body than the rear, to achieve a slight rake when the body is positioned onto the chassis
    • Tops may not be chopped and roof pillars must remain intact
    • The front fascia of the body must remain intact (headlight area and grill opening), however the front air dam may be removed. The front leading edge shall maintain a vertical profile with a minimum height of .225”.
    • Rear wheel openings may be enlarged for tire clearance. 
    • Front wheel opens may be cut out of fender completely to allow tires to extend above fenders and hood area.  Cuts may be made into hood sides to allow for tire clearance.
    • Mesh screen will be used to replace the front clear plastic window, and the clear plastic rear window will be eliminated
    • The rear of the body may be cut off to shorten the overall length of the body and a replacement rear panel must be added when the rear of the body is cut off. The panel may include the rear spoiler.
    • Rear spoiler height must not exceed .400” (measured from the top center portion of the rear deck lid). Rear spoiler may be no wider than the body
    • Body must display numbers on each side and the roof. (Numbers shall be at least .5 inches tall
    • Interior with 3D driver shall be installed

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Posted 14 April 2023 - 01:24 PM

Finally finished my Slammer. 
 

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Posted 14 April 2023 - 02:30 PM

Our sister track carries plenty of plastic 1/25 NASCAR in the year range we allow at a very cheap price. 

 

Ahhhh, but there's always these three questions.

 

1. Back in the sixties plastic slot car bodies came with posts into which a screw could be threaded to attach the body to the slot car chassis. How are these plastic bodies attachable to chasses?

 

2. What about the windshields? Are they styrene plastic as well or are they a much lighter flexi-plastic?

 

3. Do the styrene bodies come with drivers? If not, what do you use for drivers? Of what material are they made?

 

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Posted 14 April 2023 - 07:23 PM

 

Ahhhh, but there's always these three questions.

 

1. Back in the sixties plastic slot car bodies came with posts into which a screw could be threaded to attach the body to the slot car chassis. How are these plastic bodies attachable to chasses?

 

2. What about the windshields? Are they styrene plastic as well or are they a much lighter flexi-plastic?

 

3. Do the styrene bodies come with drivers? If not, what do you use for drivers? Of what material are they made?

 

 

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We use windshields from the model kit, however some classes allow mesh front window like slammers. In that case we use screening (screen door patching kits)

Plastic kits do not come with drivers we use. 

Caveman Boodez makes driver figures. See the link 3d Printed Figures & Products Archives - Caveman Bodeez

We do not use "posts" to mount bodies.  I use L shaped plastic (corner protectors found out home depot or lowes) cut to size, attach to inside side of the car then drill a mounting hole (countersunk) in the bottom of the chassis and screw the body through the corner protector.  If I remember, I will  post a photo


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Posted 15 April 2023 - 08:34 AM

Ron came over to do some testing yesterday and we noodled an idea.  We both agreed that with wheel cut outs, the front ends might be somewhat week. We had tried to address this issue initially by gluing .062 piano wire to the underside of the hood from front to back.  Although this helped the front ends are still a bit weak and would be susceptible to breaking upon hard impact.  We came up with this idea that we use in another class - add a front push bar fabricated from .062 piano wire and attach it to the chassis.  Below are some examples of the push bar on cars in our Early Modified class. Note that the push bar is attached to the chassis with nuts and bolts so it can be removed. A hole is drilled and countersunk on the bottom of the chassis and used as an attachment to point.  A rectangular piece of hollow brass tubing is soldered to the ends of the push bar and then an attachment hole is drilled.  The push bars do protect the guide flag and front end.

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Posted 15 April 2023 - 10:16 AM

Oh yeah! I love those super modifieds! If and when I move from downtown Toronto, I'm going to find a no longer raceable full scale one to keep on my yard as an "objet d'art". Plus a goat or two to keep the grass down.

 

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Posted 15 April 2023 - 05:28 PM

Attached is an image of the body mounting method I mentioned in an earlier post. Also I used this great 2 sided mounting tape.  You can glue the L bracket in place but if you strip out the mounting hole the L bracket will be difficult to remove.  The tape provides a strong bond but it can be removed by getting under it with and exacto and working it for a while

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Posted 16 April 2023 - 09:25 AM

The inaugural Slammer race is scheduled for "Tax Day", April 17 at Electron Raceway.
 
 
Check out Slotblog for race results on Tuesday, April 18!!!!


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The Class calls for the standard H-Bracket chassis used in our Sports Car, NASCAR and Trans-Am classes. So only a body swap is necessary. Below is an image of a typical chassis.
 

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Since the class requires only a body swap, the usual suspects will be vying for podium spots. Expect Rich, Bob, Ron, Joe and Mark to battle for podium spots. That being said, other have rides with potential and could challenge for podium spots if the top dogs falter or fail to show up. It should be interesting!

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