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#1 Mad Mark

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Posted 12 June 2023 - 05:26 PM

won these on the bay and never had a car or motor like either so dont know anything about them. only going off pics from the auction as I dont have them yet. guessing mid to late 90s era?
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any help would be appreciated!
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Posted 12 June 2023 - 07:41 PM

Not much help, but the wing car motor is a Mura C-can, with maybe a X-12 arm. The chassis is someone's boxstock chassis, maybe a Proslot or Slick 7. Many steel wing chassis don't have a motor box large enough to fit a C-can, but yours does. Piano wire is used for the perimeter rails & different diameters could be used for tuning. The motor in the F1 is a strap can & the arm looks to be wound with fine gage wire. That would lead me to think it was 1/32 scale car rather than 1/24. 1/32 Eurosport has an inline motor F1 class & I don't think 1/24 does, I can't identify who made the chassis. One of the brass pans has a name, probably the owner's, engraved on it. If you post topside photos of the bodies, someone may be able to identify what they are.


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Posted 12 June 2023 - 07:47 PM

Not much help, but the wing car motor is a Mura C-can, with maybe a X-12 arm. The chassis is someone's boxstock chassis, maybe a Proslot or Slick 7. Many steel wing chassis don't have a motor box large enough to fit a C-can, but yours does. Piano wire is used for the perimeter rails & different diameters could be used for tuning. The motor in the F1 is a strap can & the arm looks to be wound with fine gage wire. That would lead me to think it was 1/32 scale car rather than 1/24. 1/32 Eurosport has an inline motor F1 class & I don't think 1/24 does, I can't identify who made the chassis. One of the brass pans has a name, probably the owner's, engraved on it. If you post topside photos of the bodies, someone may be able to identify what they are.


Thanks Bill, from my motor research I determined that wing motor is a c can Mura. couldn’t find a similar chassis anywhere but don’t really know what to look for. also assuming the f1 is 1/32 seems like that’s the only class with inline chassis. any idea of motor brand? obviously will get better shots when I receive them in a week or so.
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Posted 12 June 2023 - 08:22 PM

Hi Mark,

 

I'll agree the motor is a Mura (like I ran in the late 1990's). I would bet the chassis is a Slick 7 Group 12/Boxstock from the same time period.


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Posted 12 June 2023 - 10:25 PM

I can't tell what the F1 motor is looking at the bottom. Looking at a top view might not help me either. I'm not real strong on strap motors. They're all sorts of different sizes from C-can size & ones smaller. The motor partially sits on top of the chassis steel so no telling it's actual size looking at the bottom. The motor & chassis could be American or maybe European. Gut feeling is they are European.


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Posted 13 June 2023 - 07:48 AM

The motor for the F1 car looks like a proslot from the late 80's early 90's. 


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Posted 13 June 2023 - 08:33 AM

The name on the pan is "Sheldon". Ring any bells with anyone? 


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Posted 13 June 2023 - 08:57 AM

Good spot, Dave.

Chassis most likely was built by top South African racer, Russell Sheldon.
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Posted 13 June 2023 - 09:09 AM

Good spot, Dave.

Chassis most likely was built by top South African racer, Russell Sheldon.

The pan has R. Sheldon on it. My first thought was Russell as I’ve heard that name floating around. the cars are in Canada and didn’t have any info in description.
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Posted 13 June 2023 - 09:11 AM

It also has a nice SASOL livery on the body and SASOL is a South African chemical company.
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Posted 13 June 2023 - 11:17 AM

I think the F1 chassis uses an SCD centre section - popular in UK around mid 90's.  I have one just the same.


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Posted 13 June 2023 - 11:26 AM

The wing car chassis I am pretty sure is a RJR that was used for Group 20 racing. The GP 12 and 15 had additional weights on the front. I have the same chassis and we raced them every week at Fishkill Raceway in the early '90's. :)


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Posted 14 June 2023 - 09:59 AM

The Arm' in the F1, could be a Grp 27, I think they used to run group 20's in them, so a 27 would be a (semi) natural progression :)

Might be wrong ofcourse, but the Wire guage 'looks' right.


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Posted 15 June 2023 - 05:01 PM

Man this car is so sano! think it will be a shelf queen.
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Posted 15 June 2023 - 05:53 PM

Nice chassis Mark! The arm looks to be wound with 45 turns of 29. I don't understand the other engravings. Someone else mentioned the motor could be a Proslot. The endbell looks like a Proslot C-can item so I wouldn't argue. SASOL is a So. African energy company.


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Posted 15 June 2023 - 08:28 PM

Yes, well Definitely NOT a G27 then,.. LOL


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Posted 15 June 2023 - 09:21 PM

Wing car motor
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Posted 16 June 2023 - 09:41 AM

F1 arm looks like 45t 29awg, 26 degrees of timing and .480 diam.

Def looks like proslot with modified brush hoods.  Pretty trick looking to get the solder tabs inline

The tires almost look like Chuck Ingram tires but probably other guys made similar stuff back then.


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Posted 16 June 2023 - 10:17 AM

The "2000" might be the year the arm was wound.


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Posted 16 June 2023 - 10:20 AM

The "2000" might be the year the arm was wound.


No 2000 engraving on there. only other engravings are four digit number I can’t make out and P/S which I’m guessing is proslot. Thanks for all the help everyone!
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Posted 16 June 2023 - 11:34 AM

Mark, your 3rd photo in post #14 shows two 4-digit engravings, 45 29, which is 45 turns of 29 ga. wire & 2000. I had to enlarge the photo to identify the 2000 in the shadow.


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Posted 16 June 2023 - 12:37 PM

that engraving is not "2000"   it is .480 (slash o) diameter.


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Posted 16 June 2023 - 10:06 PM

On the track again! did like three laps was kinda scared didnt want to blow the motor.
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