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Posted 04 November 2008 - 05:09 PM

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Are the Can-Am bodies "long" or "short"?
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Posted 04 November 2008 - 05:52 PM

I slipped one over a 1" GL, 4" WB chassis and there is about 1/2" from the tire to the back of the body, so I'd say pretty long.

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 07:36 PM

Is there a major difference between the Lolas besides the rear wings?

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 07:41 PM

Are the Can-Am bodies "long" or "short"?

Long for the two Lola T70s and a tad bit shorter for the 908.

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 07:41 PM

Is there a major difference between the Lolas besides the rear wings?

Both are identical except for the rear wing/spoiler.

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 07:15 PM

Is that the long-nose Torino the Talladaga (like the Harmon's mold) or the standard body?
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:22 PM

The nose is long... but I've never compared it to a Harmon's mold/body.

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 08:16 AM

The following TrueScale bodies were approved but I failed to get them up here. Sorry!

TSR 24 - Kirby Ti22:

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TSR 27 - Short Ti22:

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TSR 26 - Ford GT Mk IV:

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:16 PM

JK has submitted a new Sunoco Lola T70 GT that has been approved for use. It has a new part number of 719081.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:26 PM

The following bodies have been approved for IRRA use. They are all from Red Fox and come painted and clear.

Lola T-160
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McLaren GT
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Porsche 908 GT
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:22 PM

I still don't understand why the McLaren GT is on the list. It was never entered in any race competition as far as I know & was to be built for the streets. Click here to find more about the project: McLaren M6 GT
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 01:41 PM

Why should it be illegal?

There's nothing in the rules that specify that any car had to have been entered or raced in competition in order to be legal.

This is what the IRRA rule says about bodies for the Coupe class:

"All approved GT Coupe bodies are listed in the “Approved Body Lists” section. All bodies must be representative of pre-1970 cars."

According to your own link, the M6GT was intended as a Group 4 car, and it was only after the rules changed for homologation that McLaren built them for the street.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:50 PM

Apples and Oranges... D3 and IRRA.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:54 PM

FWIW, it is also allowed in D3. :D

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:56 PM

Tex,

I'm not sure what you mean. The D3 wording is a bit different to the IRRA wording, but the M6GT is legal in D3 as well, and there's also nothing in the D3 wording that explicitly requires bodies to be modelled from vehicles that actually raced.

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 03:40 AM

I seem to recalled a D3 coupe body was removed from the list because it was allegedly never entered in race competition. You would think the same logic would apply here, but that's just my opinion. :rolleyes:
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 04:15 AM

I still don't understand why the McLaren GT is on the list. It was never entered in any race competition as far as I know & was to be built for the streets. Click here to find more about the project: McLaren M6 GT

How about comparing apples with apples??

They are not the same car. :(

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 08:07 AM

I seem to recalled a D3 coupe body was removed from the list because it was allegedly never entered in race competition. You would think the same logic would apply here, but that's just my opinion.

I can't speak for D3. They removed the Abarth and the Chevron GT because of other reasons.

IRRA removed the Porsche 917 GT because it was a 1970 body and the rules were set for pre-1970.

You planning to run IRRA?

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:45 AM

I thought they had to race, too.

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 10:32 AM

Apparently the prototype did a few races:

"Trojan did build a second show car and found a customer for the prototype; British racing driver David Prophet. He raced the car in several European races in its coupe guise in 1969 and had it rebodied in 1970 for the newly founded Interseries; the European equivalent of Can-Am. The new body was similar to that of the McLaren M12, which was the final evolution of the Trojan built M6 series. It was used throughout the 1970 season, but with little success. Rebodied as a coupe, the M6GT was sold to a Canadian in 1971, who converted it for road use. Amazingly he drove his kids to school with the McLaren for several years. The car eventually ended up in the collection of Gilles St. Pierre. He held on to the car for many years and only sold it to its current owner in January of 2006."

That's as far as the project went because the FIA dropped the production race quantity from 50 to 25, which opened the door for Porsche to build the 917. Bruce McLaren saw the writing on the wall and abandoned the project, with a third car being built for his personal road use. That was it, three cars, and only the first one was built in the race shop.

So, it technically does qualify, although further research hasn't shown that the races weren't part of any championship series.

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 01:00 PM

Slightly off topic but another lucky kid was Howie Ursaner... On one of his trips to a race in California "back in the day" he was picked up at the airport by Mike Morrisey in Jim Russell's Cobra competiton coupe complete with open exhaust just like it came off the race track. He sat on the aluminum floor and held on to the roll cage while Mike gave Howie the ride of his life going back to the Russkit offices...
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 01:18 PM

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 02:34 PM

I can't speak for D3. They removed the Abarth and the Chevron GT because of other reasons. IRRA removed the Porsche 917 GT because it was a 1970 body and the rules were set for pre-1970.You planning to run IRRA?

Actually, neither. Here at NorCal, we are allowed to run these bodies:
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ToyTech-Dynamic Ferrari P3/P4, TrueScale Mirage M1-C, Red Fox Ford GT40,
ToyTech-Dynamic Porsche 908, TrueScale Lola T-70 Coupe, Red Fox Ford Mk IV.

Technically, this Porsche 917 is a 1970 body and should not be allowed, but I love the shape. Which is why I think we should allow bodies up to 1972, but that's just my opinion. :blush:
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:29 PM

I do agree about extending the coupe body year limit to 1972, but that's because I DESPERATELY would like to run a Ferrari 512M in Penske colors.

I think the Can-Am year cutoff is just right, though, because a 917/10 or 917/30 body like the one's I've seen by Toytech are cool, but produce much more downforce than what I think the class is intended to have.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:14 PM

The following bodies were submitted in error for approval (see above post). Initially, they were submitted as Red Fox bodies. They are however Red Fox painted TrueScale Bodies. Since TrueScale already has submitted those and they are already approved, these will be removed from the approved list as Red Fox bodies.

They are fine for use.

Lola T160
McLaren GT
Porsche 908 GT

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