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#1 Dave_12

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Posted 10 August 2024 - 11:08 PM

What motor springs are recommended for a G12 motor being raced on a high power track ( 3.8 to 14 volts)?


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Posted 11 August 2024 - 12:52 AM

Champion red springs (now Pro Slot).


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Posted 11 August 2024 - 01:25 AM

Russ,

 

Champion springs go soft and lose tension, even on a medium power track. 

What springs would these be?

 

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Posted 11 August 2024 - 07:07 AM

At PJ Raceway, which is pretty fast and with great power, for One Motor Cox 12, I would recommend Cahoza 3-coil springs.


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Posted 11 August 2024 - 11:56 AM

I'm mostly using Camen 5-coil double overHead springs.


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Posted 11 August 2024 - 05:29 PM

Champion springs go soft and lose tension, even on a medium power track.

 

If that's the case, i would use shunts and spring insulation.

 

At PJ Raceway, which is pretty fast and with great power, for One Motor Cox 12, I would recommend Cahoza 3-coil springs.

 

That would be my second choice.

 

I'm mostly using Camen 5-coil double overHead springs.

 

The 5-coils are too much, IMHO.
 


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Posted 11 August 2024 - 07:11 PM

I'd suggest one of the 3-coil springs. Ones I've used are Dubick and Koford, and Cahoza is another choice. Due to Camen not having made springs in quite a few years, they'll be hard to find, and the only ones suitable for a G12 will be the "Light" springs. I've encountered recent motors where the spring post isn't long enough to fully support a 5-coil spring.



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Posted 11 August 2024 - 07:34 PM

The Camen 5 coil with the half bend putting the spring brush contact right in the middle was Camen genious. Seems no one else knows how to do this and Joel is not telling!


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Posted 12 August 2024 - 12:05 AM

team burrito  always use shunts and insulation  on all Can motors . 


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Posted 12 August 2024 - 01:17 PM

Yes, the half-bend on the Camen 5-coils was a neat feature. The bent wire pillow blocks on the Camen Snapper chassis is some even fancier wire bending. 3-coil springs don't need the half-bend. If they're oriented properly with the long arm down against the hardware, the short end is in the middle where it needs to be.



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Posted 13 August 2024 - 02:01 PM

Dave

 

If you can Find Camen Lite's 5 coil if not Cahoza 160's 5 coil work fine

 

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