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#1 Jay Guard

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Posted 01 January 2025 - 03:00 PM

To All GRRR Racers: **UPDATE 4/8/25**

Here are the changes that I am considering to implement for the 2025 GRRR racing season. Comments are welcome.

 

NOTE: I will update this first post if something changes so you won't have to look at all of the posts to to try to figure out what will change for the 2025 racing season.

 
1. No drivers championships/points. We have so few racers that attend each race that the overall winners are really just the guys that show up for each race.  In my opinion this means little from the standpoint of who is the best racer, so I don't want to go through the hassle of trying to keep those records and order awards on this basis.
Update:  It is now apparent that most would like to see the season driver's championship points continue.
Jeff Bonnano has volunteered to keep the totals and post as appropriate.
 
2. Require a minimum of 8 pre-race sign-ups no later than 5 days in advance on Slot Blog, or at least a PM message, text, or phone call to me to let me know how many racers we will have at a race.   If I don't get at least 8 racers pre-signed up I will cancel the race.
Update:  Fortunately we have been seeing a good turn out at the first 3 races so this idea will only be in force for potential races to be held at the Daytona and Vero tracks.
 
 
3. With only eight racers we can use the middle 6 lanes (4 minutes per lane) in a round robin format for the first two races and with a couple of ghosts we should be able to have at least three turn marshals at all times.  For the last race (Can-Am) we could still have qualifying and A and B mains.  This would shorten the race day schedule from our previous 6 races to now 4 races total.  This will allow the out-of-town guys to get home at a much earlier time but still get in 3 full (24 minutes) classes of racing.
Update:  I believe this is still a viable option if we only have 8 racers (or less).  However the actual race set-up(s) can still be decided on the day of the race at the track by popular vote of the racers.

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Posted 02 January 2025 - 07:38 AM

The first 2 suggestion make sense. Keep the pricing the same, regardless of end of year points. We need tracks to race on.

I'm not a fan of 6 lane racing after traveling 2-3 hours to race. I understand we need marshals but I think we need to figure something else out.
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Posted 02 January 2025 - 01:04 PM

If you run 6 lanes what about extending the heats to 4 minutes?  Same run time as running eight 3 minute heats.


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Posted 02 January 2025 - 06:05 PM

Brandon:

Good point on the price thing, it would only be a couple of bucks anyway, for sure the tracks need the money to stay open. 

I really don't see the down side to running the middle six lanes, especially if it allows us to have enough turn marshals.

As for "figuring something out" the six lane thing was the best I could do, but I'm open to suggestions.

 

Dom:

Good Idea, I'm all for giving the racers the full 24 minutes of race time.   Thanks!


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Posted 02 January 2025 - 08:12 PM

I enjoy the gutters. They can make or break the race. It will definitely help save the chassis's from big hits.

But longer heats would make up the difference.
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Posted 03 January 2025 - 11:06 AM

Consider this pattern - 4 racers start the race on white, green, yellow and purple.  Every other sit-out is a dummy racer.  Every heat will have 4 racers and they will ALWAYS be either next to each other, or driving a gutter lane with no one next to them.  So you would have racers on:

 

Heat 1 - white, green, yellow purple

Heat 2 - red, orange, blue, black

Heat 3 - white, green, yellow, purple

Heat 4 - red, orange, blue, black

etc.

 

Yes, it can extend the day, but this structure is (in my opinion) the most fair to the racers and still gets in the full 24 minutes of racing.


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 11:45 AM

Run an A and B main for each class and all 8 lanes.  If you start on time, tech on time, you will get done early.  Atlanta retro runs 4 classes close, moves the program along


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Posted 19 January 2025 - 09:51 AM

Im not a fan of 6 lanes either.  If this is the case I will NOT be attending any GRRR races this year. The way it was before was fine. It wasn't broken so why change it?  Its not just Jay's thoughts, its the racers


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Posted 19 January 2025 - 04:46 PM

In fact Brian is correct that these were just my ideas and why I indicated that this was all tentative.  It looks like we are going to have a great crowd at the first GRRR race at P1 and as a group we will be able to figure out how we want to run the races this year and if we want to maintain championships for each class..

 

Most of these ideas were due to the low number of retro racers we had been seeing at last years races.  In fact if we can get 12-14 racer we may be able to have a race at Daytona, which as most of you know is an awesome track.


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Posted 19 January 2025 - 05:52 PM

I most certainly hope everybody has a perfect race, doesn't fall off, and everybody sets new track records, unfortunately I will not be there. I am going to the Checkpoint Cup race out at Piranha raceway.


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Posted 07 April 2025 - 11:45 AM

To All GRRR racers... See updates (in bold) in post #1 above.


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Posted 07 April 2025 - 02:58 PM

Shrek wanted to be in charge of the Points.
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Posted 07 April 2025 - 06:10 PM

Shrek wanted to be in charge of the Points.

Brandon:

When he bailed on the first two races with no communication as to when he might (if ever) return I asked around for someone else to take over that task.


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Posted 08 April 2025 - 09:31 AM

I understand, I wasn't sure if you knew he was looking to help the series.



Brandon:
When he bailed on the first two races with no communication as to when he might (if ever) return I asked around for someone else to take over that task.


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Posted 09 April 2025 - 03:58 PM

No one said anything about last year's points

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Posted 09 April 2025 - 05:58 PM

No one said anything about last year's points

Gee Terry, I was hoping you were going to take car of that! :shok:


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