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#1 Dave_12

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Posted 16 March 2025 - 03:24 AM

What is the difference between a banked King and a punchbowl King?


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Posted 16 March 2025 - 06:26 AM

Punchbowl is more of a slang term. As King tracks have evolved, the radius of the turns have gotten slightly longer and the striaghts slightly shorter to still maintain the overall length of 155'.

Most common examples are the kings currently set up at PJ Raceway, Piranha Speedway and Hobbies, and at Mid-America.
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Posted 16 March 2025 - 06:38 AM

With some King track designs, a well set-up car may appear to be as fast through the turns as they are down the straights. Very popular track style.



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Posted 16 March 2025 - 08:54 AM

Mid-America Slot Car Raceway is the fastest in the World, originally from Pilsen / Plzen, Czech Republic. Really a punch bowl - or PJ  Raceway, both  around 1.25 sec lap times on qualifying, meaning around 85 mph...


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Posted 16 March 2025 - 11:38 AM

Brad Friesner world record on the Pilsen track was 1.286 set about seven years ago. Two years ago at PJ Brad went 1.255.


The worlds will be held at PJ in May and I'm sure excitement is building to see if Brad can break his record again.
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Posted 16 March 2025 - 02:31 PM

"Punchbowl" is really a term to describe any track that's predominantly "full-punch" - full throttle for all or most of the lap. I've seen the term applied to high-banked ovals both in slot cars and 1:1 as well as other tracks with modern wing cars.


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Posted 16 March 2025 - 04:57 PM

Dave, Wayne B's Gerding King he had built for Raceworld was very much a typical Newer style 'Punch-Bowl' King.

All Horsepower, ZERO driving.

 

Mind you, Retro's still required Some driving, almost everything else, including well setup Flexi's were 'Flat-Out'.

 

In a Group 'F' race there, not long before it closed, I was loaned a car and as there was absolutely Nothing that 'Holding the Controller' could do to make the car Faster, ... for a Joke, I used a Rubber Band on the Trigger for a couple of brackets, drank the remainder of my coffee and simply watched.  :laugh2:

 

Perhaps, needless to say,.. I never bothered purchasing a Group 'F',... :)


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