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#1 Rick Moore

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Posted 19 March 2025 - 12:27 PM

CMF3 1500 Series

 

To misquote Mark Twain, the reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated… However, on the specific subject of scratchbuilding slot car chassis, maybe not so much...

 

It’s been about two-and-a-half years since I last posted in the 1237 Series build thread. There are numerous reasons why, but the main contributor was I hit a mental roadblock on where to go next in the design and build progression. Basically it came down to the 1243, 1247, 1258, 1249, and 1256 diverging main rail/iso-guide (DMR/iG) chassis simply outperforming everything else, where it was only a question of which one had the best set-up for the track and conditions on any given day.

 

That is not to say I haven’t built any more 1237-series chassis, or any slot car chassis, but it was almost none. The reality is there was only one, which I built in 2023, the 1258.2a-Cb3, a purpose-built GT Coupe chassis, that would be my first GTC chassis in the DMR/iG design group, and as such was my best performer in that class, besting the lap times of the previous GTC chassis, the center main rail 1259.2a-Cb3... however, the 1258.2a-Cb3 would suffer the same fate that had befallen the 1259.2a-Cb3 exactly one year earlier... both chassis still sit on my workbench as a reminder of the tragic-comedy of existential futility... we will not speak of this, the wounds are still fresh (LOL)... Ask Jay Guard if you want to know the gory details...

 

But, in terms of chassis designing and building, even before that time I got to what in literary efforts would be called “writer’s block”. And at the same time I found myself spending a disproportionate amount of my time pursuing another enjoyable hobby of mine, writing. Likely most do not know this from experience, but I can confirm, it takes a lot longer to write a novel than it does to build a slot car chassis. A whole [expletive deleted] lot longer. I found this out twice. Don’t ask, you probably wouldn’t want to read them...

 

Writing gave me plenty of time to think about what I wanted to do as far as designing and building slot car chassis, and helped very little. However, sometime relatively early in the course of the second novel I scribbled out the idea for a chassis design, and one that had nothing to do with the 1237-Series... and there it would sit on the drafting board for more than a year...

 

...until February of this year. The fact this new design had nothing to do with the 1237-Series probably helped motivate me (and I wasn’t ready to go full in on the third novel yet). My penchant for overly long posts, as you can tell already, has not waned, so allow me to elucidate what this new design incorporates.

 

There are two main rails, angled, converging. There are still static pan sections forward of the rear tire wells. The front spanner rail has less angle than before, but still has smaller front wings in front of the front wheel wells, and having front pin mounts (6-pin technology). The side pan assemblies are wider, larger, have smaller front wheel wells, with much less movement, and can have the option of brass pans being incorporated within the steel wire framing. There is a center section between the main rails mimicking the iso-guide assembly on the DMR/iG chassis, but much larger, also giving it the option of a brass pan being incorporated. In total that allows three pans to be built into the framing, the thickness of the brass to be used variable: none, 0.010”, 0.016”, 0.025”, or 0.032”, or any combination thereof.

 

The all-wire frame is still being constructed with 0.032” wire, with two major variations.

 

First, there is a greater use of 0.039” “spine wires” soldered atop the 0.032” wire frame to stiffen the chassis around the motor-box/drive assembly, and along the front spanner rail. This chassis design was intended to be much stiffer than the 1237-Series chassis.

 

Second, is in the build process, where the 0.032” wire frame is built first, with everything else added to it subsequently. That includes the guide mount, front axle spanning uprights, motor bracket, and the exception, the rear axle tube, that last one always part of the original framing previously. For those who always marveled I still used my prehistoric Champion Align-O-Jig, I’m sorry to disappoint you, but this new build process allows me to use a contemporary scratchbuilding jig block. However I’m still using graph paper, numerous pieces of brass, and lots of blue tape to build the frame.

 

I did have a minor problem considering what to call this thing in CMF3 chassis parlance. The 1200’s had pretty much been used up by designs, especially after the 1237-Series there were only a few numbers left before I hit 1299. So I decided it was time to start a new numerical sequence, to put the new design(s) and build process in its own category, the 1500’s.

 

The first build would be the...

 

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#2 Rick Moore

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Posted 19 March 2025 - 12:31 PM

1500-Cc3.2

 

If you read everything above, I won’t torture you much more here. Suffice it to say the two brass side pans and center section pan are 0.016” thick brass (hence the “.2” at the end). My goal was to build this chassis so in RTR CanAm class trim it would come out to approximately 105 grams. It came out to 104.7 grams. Not bad for a WAG.

 

Picture time! The CMF3 1500-Cc3.2

 

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This car drives different than the 1237-Series chassis, as it should. But it is not in a bad way, and I was genuinely surprised how well it runs. The 1500-Cc3.2 ran with the best 1237-Series DMR/iG cars its first night out, and with some tweaking, outran them on its second test night. It’s a steep learning curve at the onset with this thing, but that’s never been a deterrent for me.

 

Out of curiosity I tried a quick experiment adding lead to the pans, about 4 grams, to see how it affected the car, and found there was little-if-any change to the handling characteristics. I removed the lead for the time being until I get a better understanding of the 1500-Cc3.2 chassis/car as is...

 

...but it got me wondering, so...

 

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Posted 19 March 2025 - 12:34 PM

1500-Cc3.3

 

No babbling on about this one. It’s the exact same as the previous one, except this time the two brass side pans and center section pan are 0.025” thick brass (hence the “.3” at the end). I was curious to see how close this got me to the GT Coupe class 110-gram minimum. I decided to have multiple bodies ready for this one, one CanAm, and two GT Coupes. I also set up the “sissy bar” mount as tubes so I could switch out different sissy bars for different bodies.

 

With the same CanAm body as the 1500-Cc3.2, the 1500-Cc3.3 came out to 110.2 grams. Add another 0.3 - 0.5 grams for the GTC bodies. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good...

 

Only two pics of the 1500-Cc3.3, since it really looks identical to the 1500-Cc3.2...

 

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Should I get overcome by boredom and wish to share with y’all, I’ll update later on how testing the 1500-Cc3.3 went, its first trial runs will be later today at the fantastic Fast Eddies Slot Cars & Raceway in Pinellas Park, FL.

 

FYI, the 8th Annual Southern Retro Rumble is coming up next weekend at Fast Eddie’s, March 28-30. This is the first year the SRR has been held in the March instead of the fall (when hurricanes are hit-or-miss meteorological events). On a side note, it has become a tradition that I donate a CMF3 1237-Series chassis to Ed for him to raffle off during the SRR, adding a little more fun to the festivities. The weather here in Floridada is beautiful this time of year, so if you haven’t made plans to attend the SRR, drop what you’re doing and head on down for some silly fun with toy cars. We always have a blast. Cool beans!

 

Rick / CMF3

 


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Posted 19 March 2025 - 01:25 PM

Rick, it's good to see you back & building once again. I don't remember where I saw it, maybe Facebook, there was a race report & photo of your 3rd place podium finish. So I knew you were partially back somehow several weeks ago.  :laugh2:  Are you using one of the ceramic honeycomb soldering blocks for your pin jig?  I still look at my Champion Align-O- Jig plates. Keith Tanaka of CA used to good at using them for chassis building, but he has changed.


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Posted 19 March 2025 - 04:22 PM

Rick...you always amaze me with your builds...keep up the great work....Kim



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Posted 19 March 2025 - 04:28 PM

amazing workmanship!



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Posted 19 March 2025 - 07:32 PM

Good god, man!  Stunning.  Blowing my mind here.


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Posted 19 March 2025 - 08:05 PM

Just WOW! 


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Posted 19 March 2025 - 08:22 PM

Awesome Build. I like the added pin tubes.  :good:


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Posted 19 March 2025 - 09:34 PM

:D  :good:  :heart:


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Posted 08 April 2025 - 07:30 PM

Always a treat to see your work. It's like a maze and that's a good thing. Sooner or later I'll get to the centre





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