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#1 Jean-Michel Piot

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 05:45 AM

Hello All.

Hopefully during the next week-end (in two days) the first Chaparral 2E of the serie I'm currently restoring will be completed. A second one will soon be as-well.

I will send pictures then, as well as pictures taken during the restoration, step by step.

Before that, today, here is were I started and where I am now. Yes, it's the same car ... Difficult enough to find one ...

It all started by an ebay auction ...



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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:38 AM

DOOD! Now THAT is MAGIC! :shok:
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 09:16 AM

No magic, just lots of hard work. :)

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 09:25 AM

Without waiting 2 days, after all, the first steps...

Restoring the chassis is quite easy. The method given by the Dokktor is excellent. So I used it for my genuine poor old 2E and the one of Don Siegel you will see in the first picture below (not Don... the car !).

As seen before, the body had been painted green and then it turned white again on the last previous picture, thanks to a bath in the brake fluid that helped to strip down the green paint and former grey primer (or had it been painted grey and thereafter green ?).

It was then time to repair the body, with polystirene cement, epoxy mastic and... epoxy resin with which I covered the front section from underneath.

I indeed wanted to strenghten a little the body repairs and have parts stay together in the correct position. The cement would not had been enough, the body was not only crached but also twisted, so I had to maintain the body with my hands and check-out the alignment with the eyes while the resin was hardening (hope you will understand my poor english).

There was a bad crack on the top of the left front wing. OK, I admit all the cracks were bad, but this one was just in the middle of an area that was supposed to simulate the numerous holes made in the wings.

Recreating this surface after cementing and putting some putty would definitively not had been easy.

So I decided to first repair, put the putty where it was needed, even in the false holes area and ... to drill the holes !

As this area should be dark blue, it was a good way not to have to simulate the holes with flat black ... ;)

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 11:04 AM

Magnificent JM :)


I love the detail work and the side pods are brilliant !

Once again, great work JM






This is a great site! :shok:
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 12:50 PM

Just as the body, the interior also had to be repaired with epoxy mastic. Not difficult.

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I chose to glue it to the body at this early step (and not after painting the body) because I did not want to have the vertical panel behind the seats being devided in two. For that reason, I put some putty there (see the arrow).

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Now, as for the lower lateral air scoops, I sculpted one in plastic.

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Then I created holes, put some epoxy mastic and just had to put the sculpted part on the whole.

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By the way, as I had several 2E to build or restore (2 genuine at that time, including mine, now there's a third one in my workshop, as well as three copies), and because this sculpted part is the same, no matter if on the right or left side, I only made one and then reproduced it with silicon moulds and resin (just as other genuine parts that I had, thanks to the fact that Don Siegel let me work on his car).


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Posted 13 November 2008 - 01:00 PM

Fantastic work, JM! Sorry to be a little tasteless, but how much do you reckon all that lovely Cox stuff piled up on your bench is worth? Especially after your amazing restorations.
The mind boggles.....

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 01:16 PM

I am so pleased that at least ONE great modeler found it suitable to follow my recommendations on how to properly restore a Cox chassis and other magnesium parts... :)

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 02:05 PM

I am so pleased that at least ONE great modeler found it suitable to follow my recommendations on how to properly restore a Cox chassis and other magnesium parts... :)



I tried it your way and it did not work for me. I must have done it wrong?!?
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 02:09 PM

Yes! :laugh2:
IT WORKS GREAT.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 02:24 PM

Yes! :laugh2:
IT WORKS GREAT.




"In the first case, use “Scrub-Free” bathroom cleaner that has an acid less harmful to the magnesium than the one in lemon
juice. Spray or dip the parts in a tank filled with the stuff, use a toothbrush (NOT a metal wire brush!!!) for very heavy white deposits.
Wait about 30 seconds and rinse in very hot water. Dry with compressed air. You may then polish rim edges or whatever cosmetics you wish to apply, then
coat the parts with a clear urethane spray. Future Floor Polish will work but not as well as an actual spray coating."

I bought this “Scrub-Free bathroom cleaner" and I did what you said "wait about 30 seconds and rinse in very hot water" this simply did nothing - I kept repeating this for some time hoping things will start to happen and they simply did not. What was I doing wrong?

"You may then polish rim edges or whatever cosmetics you wish to apply". What "cosmetics" are we talking about here?



Glass-beading is the best way - I wish I had that set up - I do you use lemon and that seems to work well but you have to be very carefull.
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 02:49 PM

Boy, he has gotta love those Chaparrals.... ;)

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 02:56 PM

The value ? :unsure:

I prefer not to think of it, otherwise I would stop playing with those toys ... :fool:

No, seriously, of course I have an idea, especially considering the rarity factor of a magnesium frame Cox 2E. But not so many people would accept to pay the real amount that could correspond to all the time spent.

Though I essentialy build for my own pleasure.

Nevertheless, the rarity of the cox 2E is the reason why, eventhough my genuine one works fine, for real fun I will use a copy that should at the end look very close if not identical to the genuine ones.
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 03:05 PM

I like stories like this one with a happy ending.

Great Job!
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 04:36 PM

Glass-beading is the best way - I wish I had that set up - I do you use lemon and that seems to work well but you have to be very careful.

Chris,
The lemon juice or Scrub-Free method is a poor method compared to the media blasting and painting with clear polyurethane. I only put it in that story as a poor man back up to the blasting. What jean-Michel did was to follow the blasting/painting instructions, that's what I was talking about. :)

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 04:40 PM

Among the parts I reproduced in resin, there is also the rear wing and the big side scoops...

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I also wanted to create a special part at the back of the head-rest, because the meshing there is surrounded by an edge.

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On my own 2E models (the one almost completed and the 3 copies) I wanted to modify the shape of the meshing because on the real car there are no "S" curves but only straight lines.

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I also engraved some lines, as you will see in the two following pictures.

And then the grey primer for the whole body but the big air scoops (they will receive a very special treatment, as you will see) ...

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And the white one, with indications of the supplementary engraved lines:

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You may notice that there is no holes in Don Siegel's car because he preferred to keep the body more close to the genuine parts. So he was OK for additions, not for removing or drilling the genuine parts.

Next step will be the way I painted the radiators and air scoops, for the lower and internal part to stay flat black, while above it will be white with a perfect junction to the body and to the radiators ...
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 04:45 PM

Chris,
The lemon juice or Scrub-Free method is a poor method compared to the media blasting and painting with clear polyurethane. I only put it in that story as a poor man back up to the blasting. What jean-Michel did was to follow the blasting/painting instructions, that's what I was talking about. :)


Philippe, I totally agree with you and am thankfull that you indicated this method !

I will show other pictures of the frame.

Moreover, in the numerous chassis I restored, there were few areas that gave evidence that your pinkish effect is indeed faithfull to the original parts.
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 05:24 PM

Now, the process I imagined for the scoops and about which I have to confess that I'm rather proud of ...

You simply have to cut small parts in thin plasticard and use mastic and masking tape on purpose.

Those "triangular" additional parts will ensure that the upper part (above the radiators) has no communication with the part below the radiator.

Let's see that with the pictures taken on either Don's car or first of mine :

First of all the thin parts that will be glued to the sides of each radiator and to the upper side of the scoops.

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We try it in position but with no glue:

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One everything optimized I put the scoops off.

I do not show the way I painted the radiator, not difficult (I wanted something realistic, not chromed). You also have to use masking tape on the upper side of the radiator to protect it during the phases of painting and warnish.

But here the way I paint the interior in black and, once the paint dry, I use masking tape to ensure that the white primer and thereafter white paint, varnish, etc, will not go into the lower cavity.

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The next step is to cement the scoop, use some epoxy mastic to integrate the scoops perfectly into the body, with a seal for the additional thin triangular parts with the rear wing.

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I will show you the next steps of painting, decalcing, warnishing, but right now, here is the result when, after all this, you finally remove the masking tape... :D

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Of course, as for the lower part, the entry of air scoops, it remained flat black. I simply add to remove the masking tape from the outside (it comes off easily, its only masking tape).

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 05:50 PM

I'm going to stop coming here.I feel so inferior. :unsure:
JM-What an amazing transformation! :shok: This kind of dedication to the details and the hobby itself should be on the cover of major magazines, along with Jairus, Bosmeck DC 65X, Steve O. and a bunch of others here. Just awesome stuff! Thanks for giving us mortals all the construction details. :)
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:05 PM

Very nice work Jean!
You do a modeler proud... :D

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:07 PM

Merci beaucoup :blush:
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:18 PM

A true master at work, well done my friend!
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Posted 14 November 2008 - 02:49 AM

A wonderful master class! Thanks J-M. You mentioned engraving lines... could you show us the tool and method you use for that?

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 04:19 AM

You mentioned engraving lines... could you show us the tool and method you use for that?


I simply use a plastic band of those old Dymo machines for making labels (where the letters are embossed in the plastic) and a dry-point.

The Dymo plastic band is self-adhesive and due to its thickness it can be used as a ruler for the dry-point ...

Of course you start very gently but after the dry-point has passed two or three times you can then go harder.

After the line is engraved you just remove the Dymo plastic band and there it is.

I will take picture during the week-end if this is not clear enough.
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Posted 14 November 2008 - 05:13 AM

Because the stage of making the seals of the air scoops is very important and needs meticulousness, I'd like to revert to it in details.

Here is a picture before any sealing and even before the masking of the air vent and radiator. It shows that the radiators are painted before (it was not visible in the previous pictures).

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Once the masking tape applied and the air scoops cemented, I sprayed a white primer.

Then I do the seals with 2 components epoxy mastic, like Milliput or Tamiya (the kind of which has to be worked with wet instruments before drying, as it becomes harder than plastic once dry and would be too difficult to file or sand afterwards).

The way to use those products is explained in the joint notice, so here I will just let the images speak.

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After the finishing with wet brush, you just allow the whole thing to dry ... You will then be ready for the very classical steps of sanding the primer and painting (no need to detail how to sand and apply the 2 white coats of paint).

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