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#26 endbelldrive

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 09:45 PM

Pretty cool, although I'm getting seasick looking at the whoop-dee-doos on the straightaway of that American Yellow. :)
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Posted 23 November 2006 - 10:24 PM

Pretty cool, although I'm getting seasick looking at the whoop-dee-doos on the straightaway of that American Yellow. :)

Awwwwww, the track I cut my teeth on . . . the good old American Yellow.

Hey Herman . . . what track did you cut your TOOTH on? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 07:55 AM

Have you been able to drive a slotcar on all these tracks you're showing us?

Bill: all but the Mineral Ridge tracks . . . I hope to get there for the ISRA Nats in 2007.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:28 PM

Here's a better view of the whoop-de-doos.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:31 PM

Holy drop arm! :shock:

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 10:55 PM

I remember that, in the distant past, judicious appliction of WD40 worked wonders for this type of challenge. :lol: That would be "sliming", as opposed to gluing. Is that more or less painfull to the anti-glue faction?

Canoga Raceway circa '77-79 (?): Mr. Boemker or Mr. Brannian may have more brain cells remaing and recall better than I. :?
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Posted 01 December 2006 - 03:11 PM

Here are two pics of our track on the ground floor of our house - with a terrace overlooking the lake . . . (in the pic THE COMMITTEE is doing some serious 2006 thingie proxy paperwork!!!)

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It is an old club track of the late '60s made from wood.

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We did the German leg of the 2006 thingie proxy race on it and even Pablo´s/Tom´s T´rantula (2nd row, third from left) did well (at least on this track . . . :roll: )

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Slots´n Q - something for the Vitt . . . Actually we were fixing some proxy cars incl. "Blue Emerald" (of course!) before being rewarded with some beef. *gg*

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And this is our club track:

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Enjoy! Or come here and have fun! :mrgreen:

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 03:33 PM

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I like that layout! Do I see some very slight elevation changes, in the middle of that closest turn and in the two short chutes near that turn?
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Posted 01 December 2006 - 04:09 PM

Do I see some very slight elevation changes, in the middle of that closest turn and in the two short chutes near that turn?

Hi, Richard,

Yes, you do. Immediately after the 90° right turn it goes down into the donut. The short straight after the donut and the short 30° left are level - then it goes up until the 180° left. You can lose up to 1m in the uphill part with German Scale cars (below), a bit less with HOT vintage stuff:

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 02:32 AM

I remember that, in the distant past, judicious appliction of WD40 worked wonders for this type of challenge. :lol: That would be "sliming", as opposed to gluing. Is that more or less painfull to the anti-glue faction?

Canoga Raceway circa '77-79 (?): Mr. Boemker or Mr. Brannian may have more brain cells remaing and recall better than I. :?

Yep, but it was NOT WD40. The best stuff Boemker found just killed the glue that tracked around the top turn onto the straight and let you spin the tires slightly. A lot of the King tracks then had a drop off about a foot after the end of the top turn and if there was too much bite when the fron end got light SHAZAM! Instant lane change with predictable results. Worked on the drop off on the old kings and black tracks but not on woops. Ya just have to drive them like vertical turns.

Chris, Chris, Chris. You have never had the REAL pit track experience. If you thought Canoga or the old King tracks were hard to drive, you should have tried to race on the "KING" (Using the term very broadly) track at Bellflower. The track had been outside in the rain for a year or two and then was cut up to be able to fit into the building. It should have just been cut up for firewood. Bellflower had it ALL---whoops, launch ramps, black holes, C-clamps holding the straight together (that you could hit on red lane), Ouiji board lap counter, bad braid, inconsistent power, missaligned sections, divots in the track surface, the finger was shortened by one section so the track angles didn't match! Welcome to motocross slots.---BRING LOADS OF LEAD FOR YOUR CAR and a couple of spare controllers--remember this was back in the day of the resistor controller. I can't believe we ran at least 2 USRA wing races on that track. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: And the tracks we "RACED" on in Vegas back then were almost as bad. When Crusher, Boemker, and I walked into the hotel after arriving in Vegas for the first race ('80 or '81?) I ran into DeBella in the lobby heading up to his room. I asked him how the track was and he told me it was almost as bad as Bellflower and he was not going to race, he was going back to LA. You missed some real motocross. 8)
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Posted 05 December 2006 - 03:07 PM

Hi, Mike,

Was that the one that also had the sano bridge of staples as "braid repair"? :lol:

Rest assured, I have experienced some real POS tracks and the joys presented by them. Unfortunately, most of them were prior to me getting into serious racing so I probably missed out on how truly therapeutic and relaxing some of the real beauties could be. :mrgreen:

I do remember something about Boemker's special stuff but I also recall a time when either he or the stuff were absent. You got a can of WD from Crusher and misted the top of the Canoga straight for a 27 race. After testing a couple mistings and laps, it was judged good to go. Seemed to work pretty well that day as I recall. At least the cars weren't launching, then touching down just in time to bounce (or get whacked) over the bank into the window of the shop. :shock:
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Posted 05 December 2006 - 04:28 PM

Mr Weiler wrote:

You should have tried to race on the "King" (Using the term very broadly) track at Bellflower. The track had been outside in the rain for a year or two and then was cut up to be able to fit into the building. It should have just been cut up for firewood. Bellflower had it ALL-whoops, launch ramps, black holes, C-clamps holding the straight together (that you could hit on red lane), Ouiji board lap counter, bad braid, inconsistent power, missaligned sections, divots in the track surface, the finger was shortened by one section so the track angles didn't match!

Hi, Mike,

Was that the one that also had the sano bridge of staples as "braid repair"? :lol: :

No. While the braid was bad at Bellflower, the "bridge o' staples" was at Circle T (Staple T). For years the owners kept the place up as well as they could afford: rebraid every year or two, track maintenance and such; it was a decent track albeit with very low power for the 1975-1980 LA area era. Then in then in the late '70s or early '80s (I think) the building changed hands and the new landlord stopped maintenance and the roof started leaking and the long downhill slide began. The owners put up a tent-like device to keep the water off the track, but during one of the LA winter gullywashers part of the roof failed and the "tent" collapsed. The track got warped, the owners got discouraged, and the racers mostly stopped coming. The owners were still making enough to keep the doors open and still had plenty of locals, Flexi racers, and a very big Womp racing program so I think they thought "why are we doing all this work for a few racers who don't buy anything here anyway" and they stopped most of the maintenance on the Black track. When the braid came up, they stapled it down. When the braid broke they bridged the gap with staples and solder and that's the way it went until the lease ran out and the landlords raised the rent through the roof (but refused to make any repairs or upgrades) and so another long-established raceway closed.

The new landlord wanted Ventura Blvd. rent for a North Hollywood location so the building sat empty for almost 10 years. I hope he lost a lot of money 'cause he drove some nice raceway owners out. I think they would have kept the place open 'till hell froze over if the landlord had been reasonable. :roll:
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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:23 PM

Apologies for thread drift to all.

I KNEW I remembered that excellent staple suspension bridge from somewhere. :shock: Memory fade has nothing to do with age; I attribute it to the myth of gobal warming - an inconvenient truth that I have no wish to discuss on Freeblog. :roll:

I think I posted this in a thread here (or on OWH) but, did you know that the Circle T track ended up in Santa Paula CA circa '92-3? I know not where the road led from there. I have heard rumors that you and and a mysterious Mr. "B" considered an investment opportunity in said market.

Anyone who feels the thread drift turning into a rogue wave feel free to kick me/us to PM. 8)

PS: I have it on good authority that secret ingredient in "The Stuff" consisted mainly of Breck shampoo/conditioner. I hope I'll have to kill someone. ;)
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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:38 PM

Neat Things "Slime" was re-bottled dishwashing soap. I sold hundreds of bottles between 1972 and 1973. Worth a tenth or so when the track was bogged with glue . . . :lol:
But I even made more money selling bottles of "Pro Air" . . . :mrgreen:

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 09:41 PM

So . . .

In addition to your previously-admitted contributions to the ruination of the hobby (MAC bodies, drop arm elimination, etc.) you add anti-glue additive. :lol:

Was this a result of market analysis or an indicator of attitudes to come? :? Actually it seems to be another primordial step in the evolution of adapting the track for speed instead of the car. :shock: I always liked speed -velocity, that is. ;)

All in fun, Philippe. :)

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 10:03 PM

Well, Chris, it was out of necessity. I HAD to beat these guys by any legal means, and soap was and is legal. Funny thing is I sold hundreds of bottles to distributors, but I am not sure that any of my competitors ever used the stuff. Indeed they were seemingly always bogged to a crawl . . .
Just kidding, of course! 8)

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 01:19 AM

But I even made more money selling bottles of "Pro Air" . . . :mrgreen:

What? Pro air? I missed that one, P. What was the usage? 8)
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Posted 07 December 2006 - 06:48 AM

I bet it was hot air blown up your ar$e, no doubt! :lol:
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Posted 07 December 2006 - 09:33 PM

I'll bet it smelled like roses and BS with a hint of premature phart. :lol:
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 04:51 PM

Neat Things Pro-Air (catalogue # 69) was carefully selected during qualifying at big races. The process was of opening those empty little Monsanto plastic bottles and running the bottles (no more than 4 at a time) from right to left to collect the precious air breathed by the country's top pro racers. A quick fastening of the top guaranteed absolute purity. A proper label was then affixed and the product was sold for a cool 69 cents.

The catalogues instructions were to pop the top and inhale the contents before qualifying, guarantying 2 to 3/10ths faster lap times. We guaranteed it.

What did you think it was, some kind of snake oil??? :x

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Posted 11 December 2006 - 08:23 PM

Intereresting . . . but what the frack does it have to do with track pictures?

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Posted 11 December 2006 - 10:29 PM

. . . pop the top and inhale the contents before qualifying, guaranteeing 2 to 3/10ths faster lap times.

That felt good; pull the other leg now.

Dokk, do you lie to women, too? ;)

Intereresting . . . but what the frack does it have to do with track pictures?

Mick, nothing at all, but let's indulge the Dokk his fantasies. They're just about all he has left, the poor guy.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 01:48 PM

Mineral Ridge Ohio / Raceway Hobbys:

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 03:55 PM

LOVE that orange track!
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Posted 08 March 2007 - 04:07 PM

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Forgot to include this one.

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