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[Steve Deiters]

I bought some rebopped Asp and Super Asp bodies from Dom's and I want to build up some chassis for them using contemporary parts. I need the following information for each car based on how they were built up in original Classic ready to runs. So if any of you have some originals of each model Asp & Super Asp from the era your help would be appreciated.

- wheel base
- front track
- rear track
- front tire diameter & width
- rear tire diameter & width
- distance from front axle to guide
- distance from nose of the body to front axle

Any other information that you may feel would be helpful would also be welcome.

[TSR]

Steve,

I will be at the museum Sunday and will make the measurements for you unless someone else posts them first.

[Jairus]

Dave Larsen has one of each, maybe he will read this.

[Steve Deiters]

Anyone have a chance to locate some dimensional data on the Asp and Super Asp I posted a request for earlier? It would be much appreciated. I want to use the info as a starting point for some builds using rebopped bodies with contemporary parts.

Thanks again in advance.

[MSwiss]

I just mentioned this post to MantaRay (Ray Price). He said he would post the dimensions for both the Asp & Competition Asp when he gets home tonight.

[Steve Deiters]

Thanks, Mike.

[MSwiss]

I would tell you to thank Ray but he looks for any excuse to brag about the size of his Asp.

BTW, I think that's an interesting project. The shape of the Asp should lend itself to a real cool-looking scratchbuilt chassis.

[TSR]

- wheel base: 3-15/16"
- front track: 2-11/16"
- rear track: a shade over 2-3/8"
- front tire diameter & width: 3/4" X 7/32"
- rear tire diameter & width: 15/16" X 1/2"
- distance from front axle to guide: 7/16"
- distance from nose of the body to front axle: 1-9/16"

I have pictures on file and will post them later.

OK, I goofed, these are the dimension for the Dynamic Super Bandit, sorry, my mistake (age does that). Steve, I will get the dimensions for the Asp ASAP (OK, now that's even more confusing!)

[MantaRay]

I just mentioned this post to MantaRay (Ray Price). He said he would post the dimensions for both the Asp & Competition Asp when he gets home tonight.

In the immortal words of Steve Martin.........I Forgot.

I will defer to the Master. I'm sure he will be measuring one out of the box

[Steve Deiters]

Thanks to all. Don't forget I'm looking for dimensions for both the Asp and the Super Asp. I'm expecting them to be totally different since one of these "thingies" would be classified very loosely I guess since there is no scale involved as "1/32"-the Asp. And the Super Asp again very loosely descrbed as "1/24".
I think a chassis build under these bodies with contemporary motors, tires, guides, and most importantly a jig built chassis combined with the next to nothing frontal areas of these bodies should make for some very interesting results . Maybe like little sticks of dynamite! We'll see. Thanks again.

[TSR]

Thanks to all. Don't forget I'm looking for dimensions for both the Asp and the Super Asp. I'm expecting them to be totally different since one of these "thingies" would be classified very loosely I guess since there is no scale involved as "1/32"-the Asp. And the Super Asp again very loosely descrbed as "1/24".

Steve,
Both Asp and Competition Asp (there is nothing such as "Super Asp") have almost the same wheelbase, track and guide lead, within 1/16". Both are in the "1/24 scale" whatever that means. However there is a kit of parts inside the box to make a 1/32 scale Maserati 250F.
The main differences between the Asp and the Competition Asp are a modified, stepped chassis tongue on the Comp Asp to fit the FT26D, can-side drive motor (a bit shorter than the FT16D, meaning a bit shorter wheelbase), sponge tires instead of molded silicone rubber and a longer body with a rear spoiler.

[MantaRay]

Steve, The green car on the left is the Asp and the gold car on the right is the Competition Asp. As Dokk said, they are basically the same wheelbase. Maybe Brassrodman will chime in with other intricacies.

[Steve Deiters]

The reason I refered to the Asp as "1/32" with quotation marks is that the RTR was supplied with the 1/32 Maserati body you mentioned. Also I guess it's tough to "scale" something that is a fictional concept. Those drivers in the packaging graphics always looked oversized and NTS in the Asp cockpit. Also there is a visible difference in the size of bodies of the Asp and the Competition Asp which I misidentified as "Super". My mistake. Since the bodies are different sizes that is why I'm trying to nail down the wheelbases and other dimensions.
I always thought these cars were eye catchers, but were hobbled by parts that were dated at best when the cars came out. Now that these bodies are available it will be interesting to see what that they can do with contemporary parts, motors, and especially tires. My plan is to use the TSR spec motor in them which I think should fit nicely inside these compact bodies. All in all it should be a fun low dollar exercise.
As always thanks for your help.