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Posted 02 August 2009 - 02:59 PM

Let me start. This topic will get some of our big buds into HO.

This is a copy of a Cobra scratch Mite.

Can't wait for Rick's HO jig, topic under 'no scale left behind'.

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 03:32 PM

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 09:42 AM

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 11:07 AM

Here is picture with Ricks new jig:

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 11:09 AM

Tried to use smaller scale motor "from R/C" so this HO scale would look like larger scale. Also used Rick's HO jig.

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 06:46 PM

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:13 AM

Al,

WOW... nice job.

How do you solder that good, wire to brass?

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 02:55 PM

Hi John

Make sure you remove any oxidation. Piano wire comes with a layer of crud. Sand it off.

I use silver solder from Radio Shack on chassis.
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 02:17 AM

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 08:30 AM

Looks sweet Al! :big_boss:

How's it run? What gear ratio you running? I have made some brass hubs for a T-Jet "Idler" gear and tapped them for a .090 set screws and I'm running steal pinions. I like the way you went with the wiper set up as appossed to the guide method that I'm using. I'll have to build one like your's :sun_bespectacled: I'm trying to keep my A.W. as "Vintage" as possible, so I went with a Riggen guide with braid. Again Al, :big_boss: it looks very sweeet! :sun_bespectacled: I better get busy :sarcastic_hand: That R-GEO jig sure looks like it's winner :good: I can't wait to use it. Take care Al :wink3:

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 10:17 AM

Dave,

Thanks for the kind words. The car above was built to test using .047" wire for the rails and it is too stiff. Next I am going to make an exact copy but with .032" wire and I will bet it handles better. I have a few perimeter designs to try this weekend also.Gearing is 7/25.

Rick's chassis jig rocks.

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Al :)
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:54 PM

Al,

Really nice work. Sidewinders are tuff.
How did you get the rear so straight .Do you know who built the bottom two chassis on left, in Rhinos reply in brillant mistake?
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 09:34 PM

Yah anglewinders are tuff, i gotta small pile of wires here, some close some way off ,all rejects. Inline cars are easy. :blink:
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Posted 19 September 2009 - 05:10 AM

Al Or anyone,
Anything on those chassis in Brilliant Mistake?
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 01:12 AM

Hey John In answer to you question of how i got the rear so staight, the way to make these suckers .is with the jig wheels i removed for photos, to show off the chassis. As for the cars in Terrys post I dont have any reason to believe he did not make all of them. He is one i must look up as we have not heard from him a while. He is a newlywed :wub: so i need to rattle his cage and find out whats up. :laugh2: Best Al
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 12:08 PM

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 12:12 PM

He is a newlywed :wub: so i need to rattle his cage and find out whats up. :laugh2: Best Al


Newly wed? I wonder, hahahahahaha :laugh2:

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 12:35 PM

They got pills to help out us geezers now!
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Posted 15 October 2009 - 06:06 PM

Brass_001.jpg this was fun build,Has great ride.
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Posted 15 October 2009 - 06:10 PM

Brass_002.jpg This was car i found , with copy i made. Any info on original ?
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Posted 15 October 2009 - 07:38 PM

John NICE! Glad to see some other approaches to car building and also fully BRASCAR legal too. I gotta someday do a A/FX or two but i really got my hands full with can cars. This weekend i race SS and NEO cars over in Cal so it will be next weekend before i finish the present run of seven chassis. By the way John do you know who built that old chassis? best Al
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 07:09 PM

Thanks Al,
No i don`t know who made that chassis. Thats the one I thought your friend Terry Built thats on blog under Brillant mistake. Can you make 8 of your Chassis I know a guy in Jersey that wants one, ME
Not many HO scratch builts Guys out there ? Just me & you going back & forth.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 08:57 AM

Sidw Job Jon,

Good concept but I'm wondering if you have to deal with shorting the track out .

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 06:53 AM

Gonzo,
Not if i use a plastic tyco pickup, & insulate under Chassis with tape some people use a card or epoxe. Go to riggenho.com
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:48 AM

Model_car_001.jpg Has anyone built this Chassis from way back, or can ID it?
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:21 AM

Model_car_001.jpg Has anyone built this Chassis from way back, or ID it?
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John,
Well, finally someone has built the Car Model Project chassis - looks pretty good. I note that you didn't follow the instructions on the mounting of the drop-arm., your pivot tube interferes with the provision for the "old style" body mounting post -an insignificant detail. I have always wondered how many of these were actually built.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:44 AM

Model_car_002.jpg Pat,
Just the fact that you reconized it is a honor. There had to be plenty of these made back then. Here is one more example. Wider & with pins for drop arm. I do see simularity to TYCO Pro you did later.
Thanks for your great work there would have never been HO Brass
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:54 PM

How's that thing run with that tiny motor? It would make making some scale cars like older F1's a but easier if it runs OK. Nice build by the way.

Cheers,

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Tried to use smaller scale motor "from R/C" so this HO scale would look like larger scale. Also used Rick's HO jig.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:59 AM

Todd,
I been building alot Chassis. But not spending time racing, tracks & racers to far. So i have to many projects going but not zeroing in on one class, love them all TJets,AFX,Mag & Non,Brass, 440. As you can see there is no pinon gear. I have to buy mega axels, Tires, Wheels Gears to get some Chassis running.
Wish we were back in sixtys two tracks Every town.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:58 PM

Here the latestxxxxxxxx_001__600_x_450_.jpg landshark__600_x_450_.jpg _450_.jpg]Great to see Pat Dennis looking in. He's the one guy in HO cars i never met. I raced with Carl Dreher Gary Rider Randy Kemp 1970 Car Model HOPRA.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:43 PM

Here the latestxxxxxxxx_001__600_x_450_.jpg landshark__600_x_450_.jpg Great to see Pat Dennis looking in. He's the one guy in HO cars i never met. I raced with Carl Dreher Gary Rider Randy Kemp 1970 Car Model HOPRA.


Unfortunately, I had to drop out of organized racing when I joined Tyco, but still kept track with what was going on, and what the current trends were. Speaking of the "old racers", I had the opportunity to meet Carl Dreher again last year in Dallas.
I'm interested in the recent innovatuions in brass HO cars - there are quite a few guys doing some innovative work. My main question is "what overall width are you guys using these days". When I was building & racing, we were sort of max'ed out at 1.375", due to the limitations of the more commonly used Aruara track which had 1.375" lane centers. By the way, Tyco had 1.5" centers, which allowed more width, but, as everything I did was for commercial purposes, I had to meet the narrower limits.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 06:52 PM

Pat , We now all use the modern limit of 1.312 for car width and we now race on tracks with 1.500 lane spacing or more.landshark_001__600_x_450_.jpg These milled tracks are so sweet, so smooth i have been mounting the body solid to the chassis, no shaker plate or hinged pans. Pat , BRASCAR has a Yahoo discusion group that includes Gary Rider and others , msg me if you would like to join. Best Al
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:25 PM

How's that thing run with that tiny motor? It would make making some scale cars like older F1's a but easier if it runs OK. Nice build by the way.

Cheers,

Todd

Todd,
I got it running this week end. There was not enough straight away it screams I was very surprised. I went in a RC hobby shop in teneck ,and they had a couple in a parts box. A little slower then a 440, but i realy can`t tell burned rubber all four gears. Pat Dennis can use one for a project he owns me.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 11:13 PM

Cool! Good to know. Thanks John.
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:38 PM

has anyone ever tried one of those little oblong motors like a zip zap in an ho chassis?
i been thinking about trying,but just wonder if the power is there.
anyone got a picture of there build?
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 06:58 AM

looks great for an inline...
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 11:07 AM

has anyone ever tried one of those little oblong motors like a zip zap in an ho chassis?
i been thinking about trying,but just wonder if the power is there.
anyone got a picture of there build?
thanks,
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Tried it and fried it! It will work as long as you can regulate the power to 3v that those motors work on. The brushes are simply little wiskers - which will burn right up if you over power them with even 6v. Not to mention that there is simply not enough magnet in there to get you much. I have thought about adapting a slightly larger can with a proper endbell with real brushes.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 11:43 AM

Tried it and fried it! It will work as long as you can regulate the power to 3v that those motors work on. The brushes are simply little wiskers - which will burn right up if you over power them with even 6v. Not to mention that there is simply not enough magnet in there to get you much. I have thought about adapting a slightly larger can with a proper endbell with real brushes.



how about placing one or two magnets on the outside of can? :rolleyes:
i guess i had my hopes up that these would be something i could
use since i have so many....someone mentioned wrapping an f-1
around one and see how it done...
i guess that is out of the question as well.
oh well,anyone need a bunch of little useless motors??
they may be good for something....like a little mini
carnival ride on your layout?? :D yeah,maybe good for that..
oh well,ideas???
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Posted 26 November 2010 - 01:24 PM

how about placing one or two magnets on the outside of can? :rolleyes:
i guess i had my hopes up that these would be something i could
use since i have so many....someone mentioned wrapping an f-1
around one and see how it done...
i guess that is out of the question as well.
oh well,anyone need a bunch of little useless motors??
they may be good for something....like a little mini
carnival ride on your layout?? :D yeah,maybe good for that..
oh well,ideas???
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:30 AM

Been trying to get all these TCP chassis running.

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 02:03 AM

I understand where the gears come from but where do you find the oilite bushings or even brass sleeves to run he rear axle thru ?

Thx ,
gonzo
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Posted 05 March 2011 - 04:20 AM

You could try the super G plus motor bushings or srt can motor bushings for oilite bushings. For brass sleeves HT50 brush barrels drilled out to .0595 or if you can find it BSRT tyco 440 X2 arm bushings HT080.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:49 PM

I understand where the gears come from but where do you find the oilite bushings or even brass sleeves to run he rear axle thru ?

Thx ,
gonzo

Associated sold them in the old days along with a brass inline
motor/axle carrier. I have an extra if you need it. Just pm
me and I'll ship it out.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:58 PM

Here some on EBAY http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Bob are these like yours?


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Posted 10 March 2011 - 01:54 PM

awset2.jpg Rick, I know the post is old but do you have any jigs left? My newest AW.
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 12:05 AM

Doug that is a gem!!:wub:

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:25 AM

Doug,

Is that a TCP pan to start with, or total Scratchbuild? The side weights / body mounts don`t have movement? When i was at store to buy my wifes ring there was other jewelery there not this nice.


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Posted 16 March 2011 - 09:42 PM

Here some on EBAY http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Bob are these like yours?

John, I don't check in on the blog very often. The Associated items are
the inline brass rear axle carrier and brass bushings to go in them.
The brass bushings are nothing special - kind of thin, but
they fit the bracket well. I will dig them out. I actually tried selling
them on eBay years ago but no bids......
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:39 AM

Bob,
You know there are a couple things i would buy from you. PM me
Thanks John
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 11:26 PM

I now have some motor brackets with bushings in stock.
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Soon I will have one for Ball Bearings.
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