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#26 Pablo

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 02:14 AM

Dummy axle is aligned in the jig to secure inner (parallel) rails.
Inner rails are butted against the front of the bracket.
(Thanks, Bob, I flipped it over, it works better :laugh2: )

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 06:18 AM

Paul,

I love how you lay the parts out first and make sure everything is fitting with no forcing. This gives a relaxed and smooth chassis. I do the same with my parts, not quite as good as yours but the same idea.

AND... if there was ever a great slogan for a car company you got it:

Pablo cars don't sproing. LOL... :laugh2:

Beautiful work!!
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 07:42 AM

Pablo cars don't sproing. LOL... :laugh2:

Maybe not, but I've heard them go "THUD" when they hit the wall. :laugh2: ;)

Great job, Pablo! :good:
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 08:57 AM

Pablo,

Where did you get those trick front jig wheels? Assuming a rectangular block can even be called a wheel :unsure: .
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 12:23 PM

Thanks, Joe !

I've heard them go "THUD" when they hit the wall.


That was on purpose, Pappy. Crash testing. ;)

Steve, those jig "blocks" were built by Rick Bennardo of R-Geo Products. My absolute favorites. They jig .063" clearance for .720", .750", .790", .825", and .875" in both 3/32" and 1/8" axle sizes. If he ever makes more of them, I would recommend getting on the waiting list. :D
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 01:39 PM

Re: R-Geo jig wheels pictured... which hole did you use to get .015" with .750" wheels? :laugh2:

They do look trick.
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:03 PM

:laugh2: Ray, thanks for asking :D
I'm going to answer your question.
Remember I said "dummy axle".
The dummy 3/32 axle sits at approximately the same height as the real axle assembly will sit.
Experience has taught me to set the final front wheel setup after all is done !!
The dummy is a soldering point for the upright wires. I tack the uprights to the dummy with an iron, then tweak until perfect.
After the upright wires are soldered hard to the chassis, I cut the tops, then remove the dummy axle.

The steel tongue is .050. It sits on top of a piece of .032 brass, sandwiched .032 X .032, .010 lift

It looks pretty ugly right now. Ugly Betty ! :o

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:11 PM

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:13 PM

Experience has taught me to set the final front wheel setup after all is done

It looks pretty ugly right now. Ugly Betty ! :o

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UGLY? NOT....Looks good to me. Looks NORMAL....Wish I could do so good!!!

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:27 PM

I forgot to say, careful placement of the uprights will allow a front axle assembly to be replaced easily.
This allows for a pre-made front axle assembly with softer, or harder, or bigger, or smaller, wheels, to be installed
in a heartbeat.
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 09:03 PM

I forgot to say, careful placement of the uprights will allow a front axle assembly to be replaced easily.
This allows for a pre-made front axle assembly with softer, or harder, or bigger, or smaller, wheels, to be installed
in a heartbeat.


I assume that this is is done before the chassis goes "THUD", and that the uprights are still at 90º? :laugh2:

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 11:54 PM

I got so wrapped up with the chassis, I almost forgot why I was doing it :shok:

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 09:55 AM

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 11:38 AM

It's in the Tumbler :D

When I wake up from my power nap (I worked a 12 hour shift last night) the front axle assembly will be soldered on to the uprights (using paste flux), and the ball bearings will be installed. Post-Tumbler photos of the chassis tonight at 11 :laugh2:

Don't hold your breath for anything freaky; it's a real standard build. Just as it was designed. ;)

Now I'm watching my IMAX NASCAR video and nodding off :popcorm1: :drinks: :beach:
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:08 PM

Made in the USA :D
It was a very easy build, thanks to the quality of the diagram and parts.
Usually it takes me a month to build a chassis -- this one only took a few days :laugh2:

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Any flaws in the photos, I'll blame it on dog hairs and Mississippi dust adhering to the WD-40 ;)
Tongue is flat, faced, and inner surface reamed and polished for a smooth rotation of the flag.
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I'm just showing the photos for the raffle. Not saying I'm anything special.
Just the facts. Some tools, some spare time, a tumbler, and a cheap camera :bye:
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:20 PM

Looks good :good: I like how you hung the pans. Do I also see floating pin tubes?



BTW:

Bill called me and said he finished your D3 F1 parts today. Those should go out in the mail this week.
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:22 PM

Looks nice Paul, very neat clean work. :good: :good: :drinks:
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:47 PM

Hi Larry :bye:

Rob, I have no idea what you are talking about. Who is "Bill", and why is he sending me D3 parts for a F1 ? I live in Mississippi; we have no D3 here. My IRRA F1 is doing fine, thank you. Are you confusing me with a different pablo ? :blink: :shok:
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:57 PM

Hi Paul,

I would like to know your reasoning for placing the bite bar so far forward on the chassis. Normally it's a lot closer to the motor. Have you discovered something?

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 09:48 PM

Hi Mike ! :D

Good question, I'm glad you asked :)

Here is my answer, and I'm sticking to it :laugh2: :
1. Traditional wisdom dictates more lift rear, and less in front. So if I place the bite bar forward, the rear will lift more.
2. In the interest of minimizing weight, and simplicity, I mounted ONE bar. It makes the rails stiffer, it provides a keeper for the wires, and it serves as a bite bar.

Everybody has a story, that is mine :laugh2:
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Posted 27 September 2009 - 09:32 PM

My job here is done. The car is complete, minus body.
I'm sure y'all know what a pair of JK rear wheels looks like, so I kept them in the bottle to stay fresh......the "keepers" are there to keep the axle spacers from falling off :laugh2:

100% IRRA legal, and ready for battle. :)

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 09:57 PM

Great looking build! How much does this beauty weigh in at?

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 10:10 PM

Good question. I did not weigh it. It is boxed up and ready to ship.
Once the body is mounted, I guess it will weigh about 120 grams.
Well within IRRA legal limits, for sure.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 07:04 AM

And remember, the winner will get to choose the body they want me to do for this little gem. Since it will probably meet the weight limit for Can-Am and GTC, there are now more choices!

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 07:09 AM

Beautiful build, as usual, Pablo. I'm sure Noose will come up with a body that will do the chassis proud.
Thanks again for your time and donation of parts to complete the chassis.
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