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#201 Gator Bob

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:34 PM

Nice pair of RAMs you got there Bob!! Will make one helluva double motor car. Think most of the open frame kind of motors have neutral timing .

 

Thanks 53 ... Zero timing would be good because thats the only way these will be 'matched'. They might spin like this :wacko2:

They may not be totally Korrect ... one box part # is printed in red the other in black. :dash2:

 

The Ram XL500 really "hauls the beans". Here's a link to the one:

 

Ram XL500...Going...Going...Man, it's GONE!

 

That one with the red wire and polish looks Sweet like Candy  :shok:  ................... Color me Gone !

Be sure to wear all your 'safety gear' when you run it up over 22v to get to the 150,000 RPM rating.   :laugh2: See.. It's an open motor.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:50 AM

Rick, interesting that your Ram took 12/42 Welduns and my Pitt wanted 12/41. The mesh on mine is perfect. A 42 would have thrown it in a bind, if it would even fit. As it is, the mesh is very smooth with minimal backlash. :)


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:12 AM

Are the Pitt705.Ram426,Strom shafts 3/32 ?

 

Note. you guys prob know... if not... the Strombecker MR&R 'Scuttler'  #8379 came with Copper or Green tint wire and has the same insulator as the center lamm .... like the 196A. 


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 10:42 AM

The shafts are all 3/32" (.09375").....more or less :) .

 

I know the Pittman's are a thousandth or so undersized.  I had to buy a special reamer to open up modern Sonic 64 pitch pinions for the Pittman's. The Sonic pinions mesh beautifully with the vintage Weldun spurs.

 

 

Rick, interesting that your Ram took 12/42 Welduns and my Pitt wanted 12/41. The mesh on mine is perfect. A 42 would have thrown it in a bind, if it would even fit. As it is, the mesh is very smooth with minimal backlash. :)

 

Doug,

 

As I recall the modern Sonic pinions actually run a bit "smaller" than vintage Weldun's. I set up my gearing with the one Weldun pinion I have and when I switched to the Sonic I had to run one tooth bigger spur gear. :dash2:


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:53 PM

Love the RAM XL500 Rick :D

 

All I know is I never get tired of seeing beautiful gears like the Weldun spur ones :heart:  :D :laugh2: 

Really well engineered and it's great they mesh so well with modern 64 pitch pinions.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:56 PM

Paul,

 

If you get one of these beasts, I've got you covered for Welduns. Just let me know. They will be at the original 1965 price on the pkg :)

 

Thanks, Rick, I'm glad to know the spurs mesh well with today's pinions. :good:


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:41 PM

Cool! Thanks for the offer Doug  :good:   will definitely let you know if I get one of these badboys :D

 

Such a cool looking motor, it would be cool to make a car up with this in it. Look forward to seeing what car you put yours in :dance3:



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 09:36 PM

A Dynamic motor bracket may be on the way for my 705, maybe a frame (not sure). If I get a bracket only, I've been planning how to scratch build the front of the chassis.

 

It will all go under a SizzlerDom PETG repop body of a Cheetah by Classic Industries.

 

I'm going to be starting on the Pittman DC196A this weekend. I'll give it the wrinkle black paint job, then add the NOS brass axle carrier conversion. All that and a couple yellow Marklin train lead wires ought to make it pretty sexy.

 

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 09:51 PM

A Dynamic motor bracket may be on the way for my 705, maybe a frame (not sure). If I get a bracket only, I've been planning how to scratch build the front of the chassis.

 

It will all go under a SizzlerDom PETG repop body of a Cheetah by Classic Industries.

 

I'm going to be starting on the Pittman DC196A this weekend. I'll give it the wrinkle black paint job, then add the NOS brass axle carrier conversion. All that and a couple yellow Marklin train lead wires ought to make it pretty sexy.

 

Stay tuned...

 

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:04 PM

No big deal, sir. I'm very thankful to get the motor end. Besides, everyone seems to enjoy what others scratch build, so this will give me the opportunity to do that. Screw driver assembly is great, but let's fire up the soldering iron and get out the solder and flux and "git jiggy wit it". :laugh2:


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:24 PM

No big deal, sir. I'm very thankful to get the motor end. Besides, everyone seems to enjoy what others scratch build, so this will give me the opportunity to do that. Screw driver assembly is great, but let's fire up the soldering iron and get out the solder and flux and "git jiggy wit it". :laugh2:

 

Heck yeah :dance3: You got me on that one  :D     Na,Na, na,na,


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:13 AM

BODY CHANGE

 

Just found a good deal on a Monogram 641/2 Mustang pace car kit. Of course it's a convertible, so I'll have to see how that 705 fits up under the back end of the body with the interior tub in it. If the kit has a convertible up-top, that might help matters some.

 

I wonder if Jairus has any ideas. :scratch_one-s_head:

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:29 AM

Cut a hole in the interior for the motor and then cover it up with a rear seat tarp.
Or move the rear seat forward slightly.
Or find a coupe instead. Monogram has two: 65 GT and 65 Shelby.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:39 AM

Well, since this motor doesn't quite perform like a Koford open motor, I made a comment in an earlier post that the only use a 705 would have at a race track would be in a pace car. Steve Okeefe came back with the idea that a 1964 1/2 Mustang pace car would be period korrect because the motor was probably made during that time. I probably had one of these kits a while back but I've been thinning out my stash of unbuilt kits. I stumbled on this one this morning with free shipping, so I got it.

 

I plan on building a couple early Mustang fastbacks with repopped Lexan bodies, but they will probably be built with mild rewound Mabuchi 16Ds, not an old dawg Pittman.

 

Thanks for your ideas. That's kinda along the same lines I was thinking...cutting out part of the back seat and putting sort of a tonneau cover over it.

 

Is there an up-top in this kit?


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:43 AM

Then deal with the clearance problem later. See how it fits first.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:54 AM

Thanks, Jairus. I'll post some pics when the kit gets here. :)


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:19 PM

Since I'm just trying to concentrate on motors here, please join me over in my new thread "Let's build something old" in the Amateur 1/24 Vintage Cars topic under the 1/24 Scale Vintage Cars section.

 

Here's the link:

 

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:31 PM

The bills just keep coming in. I built a few things to raise some cash:

 

http://www.ebay.com/...&_sop=12&_rdc=1


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 01:48 AM

I been a re-buildin' fool lately...real heavy on the fool. :sarcastic_hand:   Top to bottom:

 

1. Mura X-12

2. Mura 20

3. Fast Ones Twister S16D

4. Mura X-12

5. Parma 16D

6. Parma 16D

7. Parma S16D

8. Mura Int. 15

9. Pro Slot S16D

 

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 10:36 PM

Been busy rebuilding and selling. I lost my job in November and my unemployment ran out last month, This is all I have going to bring in money. Luckily, social security kicks in next month. It isn't much but it beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

 

Top pic is 17 arms I cleaned up and trued the comms. I have 5 colors of arm dye to play with.

 

Next pic is of all the arms dyed the various colors. In the lot are 1 Wasp, 3 Puppy Dogs, a few 12's, many 15's and an older open arm that looks quite nice. Don't even ask. These are  not for sale YET. They're all going in motors that will be available soon.

 

The bottom pic is of 5 motors that are on eBay now.

 

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The top left motor is a Parma S16D with a ProSlot Competitor arm in it.

The top center motor is the same thing, only with a Mura X-12 arm.

Top right is another S16D with a Mura Int 15 arm.

Bottom left is a Mura X-12+ motor.

Bottom right is a rebuilt Parma 501 Deathstar motor where I painted the can wrinkle black.

 

The auction is at http://www.ebay.com/...&_sop=12&_rdc=1

 

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Thanks for looking :)


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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:02 AM

Very pretty, Doug :D :victory:


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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:55 AM

Thanks, Pablo.

 

Two things come to mind (scary thought, but only two. Three is going beyond... :laugh2: )

 

1. I was thinking these would look good on a Christmas tree. Some guys out here are lucky to have a man cave. If you put up a Christmas tree and hung a bunch of these on it, who cares what the wife would think, right?

 

2. New book "101 uses for a dead arm". Trouble is, this would only be my first entry in the book...only 100 more to go :laugh2: . Take burned up arms, shine up the arm stack, use the different dye colors and solder hooks on them and hang them on the Christmas tree. The wife and kids have their favorite ornaments...these could be yours. :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 25 May 2014 - 04:32 PM

If you start writing that book now, you could race PDL to see whose book is completed first. :laugh2:  :laugh2:   I sometimes used a different color on each stack of an arm. That used to generate a lot of questions. In addition to the above colors, I have a Lucky Bob's black.


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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:30 PM

Bill, tell them that's the way you keep track of the winds on your arms. Tell them your arms are wound with 3 different sizes of wire and that's why the 3 different colors on the stack :sarcastic_hand: . By the way, what colors do you use for your 22 wire arms? :laugh2:  I wouldn't need any dye on my 22 wire arms. They would turn black all by themselves in just a few laps :bomb:  :shok: 

 

Since I made my last post, I remembered I have another use for a dead arm. I have a dead Chinese arm that I use as a bushing/bearing insertion tool. The small diameter comm makes it easy to install a 5mm or 6mm bushing/bearing. It is also handy as a punch or pressing tool to remove bushings/bearings, too.

 

Ok, 2 down, 99 to go. Let's see.................... :crazy:


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Posted 25 May 2014 - 11:39 PM

Doug,

Nice work and I like the tree ornament idea too. :good:

?Question, back in the 80s-90s when doing MY motors I had arm die that seemed much better than the Bob's arm die of today, I can't remember the brand but it seemed to 'soak in' like "Machinist Bluing" and had a stronger/different 'scent' than Bob's which smells more like nail polish and paints on more than soaks in.

Do you know the brand or have any idea what the hell I'm talking about :crazy:  :laugh2:   

 

<sarc on> Since you 'don't like' building motors you might want to try sealed Retro racing ... :laugh2:  :bad:

 

 

I like lemon yellow the best ... for reading the 'heat' :heat:

 

I wanted candy then.

I want candy later.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 06:59 AM

Bob,

 

I had one bottle of arm dye back in the 1980's. It started out as blue but over the years faded to clear. I kept it in a desk drawer, so it wasn't exposed to light very much. I dunno what happened. :unknw: Sorry, don't remember the brand.

 

There aren't any tracks around here except for a short drag track. Don't have money to race, anyway.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:03 AM

The first arm dye I saw in the 70s was blue. I always thought it was machinist blueing. A while later, Parma sold a few colors in glass bottles. I'm still using a bottle of the Parma yellow. It does allow one to "read the heat." I think it's the only color that does.  When it turns brown, your arm is toast. :laugh2:


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 10:45 PM

More stuff on the ebay auction block.

 

1. Parma 16D with balanced Mura Wasp arm

 

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2. Parma S16D with Mura Int 15 arm

 

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3. Pro Slot Puppy Dog motor with American arm

 

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4. Parma Deathstar

 

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5. JK Hawk motor with Pro Slot Puppy Dog American arm

 

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6. Parma Deathstar

 

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:32 PM

I lost my job in November. My unemployment ran out in April. I'm now on social security but still need to bring in more cash from re-building motors.

 

If you have a junk box of motors or motor parts you would like to get some cash for, please PM me.

 

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 03:50 PM

I have an NOS Ram 222 for sale on ebay now if anyone is interested.

 

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 10:27 PM

Rebuilt some motors. They're on ebay now. Have a look......

 

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 10:58 PM

Doug, good to see you're still kicking! :)  Have you tried  rebuilding any of the FK sealed motors? Or do you have better stuff to do with your time?  I'd almost think that if one could find a source to replace the worn brush material, a good motor builder would be in 7th heaven.  :good:  Endbell replacements are always available, but that would be too much work & the arms would have to be replaced too.  


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 08:47 AM

Thanks and hi again, Bill.

 

Yes, I have rebuilt them. I have rewound the arms and even swapped the brushes in the endbells to make a good one out of 2 bad ones.

 

It took some pondering to figure out how to hook the wires to the comm. The FK's are not connected like Parmas, Muras, etc. Instead of connecting the wire to the next comm segment after winding a pole, you actually connect the wire to the next comm segment beyond that. It sounds strange but it all has to do with the way the brushes are positioned and the angle they contact the comm. It's confusing at first, but no big deal after you've done a couple. :)


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