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#1 Edo

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:43 AM

Today and the following weeks, we’re offering you, gentlemen, glimpses of interesting cars who were built by anonymous builders and which never made it to model magazines or, for that matter, never were close to glory and recognition.

We’re beginning to show this beautiful (Zerex ?) Oldsmobile with a few nice details:

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Motor is a Dynamic 26D, guide looks like a Classic:

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Then we have a Harvey Aluminium Special:

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Motor is an orange edb Igarashi Hemi Super X88, Cox Quick Change guide, Riggen rears:

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Is’nt this pick-up arm stop cute:

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What do you think guys? Toads or princesses?

Much more to come…
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 04:22 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

I simply :wub: them all!

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:38 AM

I'd say, lovely toads! :)
The first is a Lancer 1964 Cooper-Olds, ex-Zerex, as modified and driven by Bruce McLaren. The guide is by Dynamic, not Classic, but the first issues of the Classic Manta Ray also used this guide.

I love the use of a cabinet brass hinge in the Thompson car...

Wonderful toads, Your Majesty. :wub:
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:43 AM

They are cool. I know where I raced as a kid these are what the majority of cars looked like, not those in R&C magazine.....
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:53 AM

the Harvey Aluminum Spcl. was my fav body as a kid,in the mid 60's,and that looks like a typical car we woulda raced too,,sure wish i could find some of those H.A.S.bodies today,(anyone,,anyone),would like making an oldie like that again,,,
definately wonderful toads with prince possibilities,,,,,,lol
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 10:23 AM

Hi

What they said.

Ironically, in the 90s, we had a retro class with actual retro cars that my kids, then small, participated. My youngest got all freeky for the Harvey and used it on one of my surviving inline jaildoor period chassis. And hasn't given it back!

So, Oscar, 30 years after your love affair, another kidlet became a fan of that car.

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#7 Edo

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 10:26 AM

Thank you for appreciating these vintage cars, Gentlemen!

I wish those who built them could see now our attempt to honor them and trying to keep that Spirit alive (and maybe some of our Masterbuilders be inspired by them)

Anyway, today we have a cute little critter which has a few peculiar solutions:

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Motor mount is a Dynamic 502 for Wilson&Globe's (SS81/91):

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Front axle carrier is very nicely cut out from a sheet of brass:

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But the motor is unidentified. It’s not a Globe SS91 and it warms up pretty much, unlike my SS91s I have, which always run cool.

It's quite fast though and does have more brakes than the 91.

It might not be a Wilson either, although I’ve never seen one in the flesh, so I cannot say for sure:

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Motor pod has been reinforced with two alu squares glued with epoxy:

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Wheels are also unidentified:

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On the rears, Allen screws do not enter perpendicularly to the axle but at an angle:

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Ball bearing fronts are kind of funny:

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Also, body mounting is very special, with rectangular alu squares taped to the body :

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Could that be that the body would be set by pressure ? In any case if it was supposed to be working then, it's not working now :(

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Is’nt this car funny and deliciously naïve? :wub:

More, much more to come…
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 10:32 AM

Edo,

How could any car in the Kingie's collection be a toad?

Why are these cars not photographed being held by fashion model named Miss Toad Stool?

Where are pictures of all your secret thingies?

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#9 Edo

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 10:46 AM

...Why are these cars not photographed being held by fashion model named Miss Toad Stool?...

Hi Max,

I've been very busy lately but in a couple of weeks Miss C. will be back, more scandalous than ever, holding some great cars!

Hey Max, who's Miss Toad Stool? What a funny name she has! :D

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 10:54 AM

Great cars! And from the period when you had to wait your turn to buy 30 minutes of track time on Saturday afternoon.
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 10:58 AM

The ingenuity of some to complicate matters where utterly unnecessary makes many vintage slot cars little pearls of naivety.
The front wheels on this lovable little toad are a good example. What where they before being converted to anti-tilt devices? I believe that they could have been... part of door stops, or some kind of steel furniture legs ends?
The vacuum formed body is very obviously a rip-off by ??? of the Revell Lotus-Ford, copied by just about everyone and their brothers, in both injected and vacuum forms. A cute if not very accurate rendition of the "25", called as such on the 1963 Revell brochures, but with a little confusion about the identity of its engine, a Coventry-Climax V8. Oh well, never mind. The motor? I have seen those before and can't remember for the life of me what industrial use those things were designed for, and this one appears to be modified with different brush holders from yet another electric motor.

I am wondering about the utility of the two alloy blocks added on each side of the crown gear with a generous dose of Araldite, but I also question the idea of the hand-cut brass front end, it sounds a bit too well made for me to be something not a production item of some kind. And of course I could be wrong on that one.

A lovely little mongrel, worthy of the King's attention. :)
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:13 AM

A lovely little mongrel, worthy of the King's attention. :)

Dokk,

I'm quite astonished to see how, with age, you seem to turn into a caring, sweet, tender (ex-)curmudgeon!

There was a time. not long ago, where you would have criticized, lambasted and demolished such "lovely little mongrels" with a virulence equalled only by Iranian conservatives!

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:20 AM

I just wanted to be polite. :laugh2:
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:04 PM

Hi

P, I recognize the brass front as an aftermarket bit for the dynamics. I have seen them before!

I think the rear wheels are a british item under the "Riko" name. Again, I have seen them before but don't have any in my boxes.

The motor? I don't remember the source either, but it is clearly a "frankenmotor" I am betting if you opened it it would clearly be a rewind. Electric toothbrush?

So many things didn't make the magazines!

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:07 PM

I just wanted to be polite. :laugh2:


Edo,
this is PDL's way of saying how much he misses you and how much he :wub: you!

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:14 PM

Dokk beat me to it. The front "tires" on the one thingie look like door stops from my grandmas old country house. Bout the same color rubber too. Still, a very interesting car to say the least.

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:31 PM

Edo,
this is PDL's way of saying how much he misses you and how much he :wub: you!

Don't make any mistake here. Once you meet the King in person, and once He has left, you will miss Him for the rest of your days.
I think that he is the only King in history like that. I don't miss Elvis, Richard Petty or King George.

:)
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:45 PM

But but but Dokk

we're both happily married men, we should'nt platonically smooch around in public like this.

What will the bloggers think?

:blush:

Anyway,

look what's coming:

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See you all tomorrow for this critter terrible secret!

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:58 PM

Now THAT's a Corvette! :laugh2:
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 03:32 PM

That's the most modified Modified Coupe I've ever seen! :) No doubt a quarter mile dirt car. :laugh2:
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 04:30 PM

the Harvey Aluminum Spcl. was my fav body as a kid,in the mid 60's,and that looks like a typical car we woulda raced too,,sure wish i could find some of those H.A.S.bodies today,(anyone,,anyone),would like making an oldie like that again,,,
definately wonderful toads with prince possibilities,,,,,,lol


Oscar, REH repopped the Lancer H.A.S. Pacific Coast Hobbies - Parts Express, in Oxnard, has them, Part# L110, $6.29. I believe the REH repops have a slightly longer nose than the factory painted Lancer in my avatar.

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 04:50 PM

Beautiful little creatures, muy preciosos ;)

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 08:26 AM

Gracias Pablo!

And here another muy muy hermosa thing(ie):

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Note rear vertical brass tube for body mount:

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Her dirty secret it's this Mura motor which makes Her fly:

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BTW,

every car you see in this thread works and this one in particular, you're not going to believe, it's really a speeding bullet and quite a pleasure to drive around my track.

Ok, gotta go prepare for the Thingie Parma race, see you later alligators!
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:52 PM

i love the funky ones, so much character.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 06:04 PM

What a bizarre "body"! Obviously, from a '63 - '67 Corvette(no split rear window... what year?). With that piece of the hood extending out front the way it does, it looks like a mosquito.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 06:43 PM

1963 was the only year with the split rear windows so it had to be '64 or later. The blue tint on the windows suggests it may once have been one of the Dubro bodies. :)

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:36 AM

Gentlemen

here is a Princess, the lovely lovely Frogette:

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Did'nt think She would be fast, but, oh boy, the Frogette can defend herself!

What motor is that, anyway?

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Is'nt She delicately made up?

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And sophisticatedly dressed?

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More?
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:28 AM

Edo -
The motor in the Lotus might be a Globe or Wilson. I remember an article in the old Car Model magazine written by Ben Millspaugh illustrating how to modify that type of motor. The main trick was installing the brush assembly from an Atlas frame motor.
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:47 AM

With that HUGE pinion and relatively small crown gear, I bet it's got beaucoups top end but no brakes. The ball bearings are a nice touch as are the spoilers. :)

Also, might not that motor be an Atlas or Revell?
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:06 AM

Hi

Actually, it is the RAM copy of the Pittman 196/Strombecker Scuttler...but the arm is from something else. The ram stacks were better than that, the blue or green wire is probably a 30s wind which is kinda the upper limit on that layout.

Can you do a reading on the arm?

That is a very cool car, though! I never did one like that. I didn't use any open frame motors in the day on commercial tracks. Lots on 1/32 club tracks but not like this!

Thanks for these.

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