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#1 TSR

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 11:01 PM

Let see if some of you paid attention.

What was the very first American-made 1/24-scale ready to race slot car, and when was it issued? :)
PM your answer to me please.

The first correct answer with the most details gets one of my (old) books for free.




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Posted 24 November 2009 - 11:19 PM

I would just guess because I don't know :laugh2: but I guess it would be Revell or Monogram?

Philippe, can I just buy a copy of your book. It's out of print for God sake? :blush:
I think that's a compliment to have your book out of print? I been trying to get a copy of it but no luck. :unsure:

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 11:56 PM

Nesta,

Electric Dreams has them and for a lot less than ePay.

And no, it's neither Revell nor Monogram. :)

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:48 AM

Would you sign it? :rolleyes:

So who is the manufacture of this little wonder?

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:56 AM

I am wondering what part of PM Nesta is having a problem with. LMAO...
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Posted 25 November 2009 - 02:54 AM

Can I ask, are we talking commercial track car or home racing car?
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Posted 25 November 2009 - 08:34 AM

1963. Unique. Hard plastic Jaguar body from Lindberg.
Or did I dream that?
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Posted 25 November 2009 - 09:18 AM

Can I ask, are we talking commercial track car or home racing car?

It does not matter. :)

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:25 PM

We have a winner. So before I reveal who he is, can anyone else out there figure it out?

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:48 PM

Just a guess. The MPC Jaguar lister, clam shell type blue car or, how about AMT with one of those big sedans?

I dunno... :blush:

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 02:41 PM

I thought it was Strombecker, about 1962 ish... didn't they offer something like a Ferrari of some sort in both kit for and ready to run???

Or should I just go shut up and smoke another cigar?

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 07:32 PM

The MPC Jaguar lister, clam shell type blue car

That would be a new one on anybody. :)
Are you thinking of something else?

or, how about AMT with one of those big sedans?

You mean, the Turnpike? They are not slot cars. :)

I thought it was Strombecker, about 1962 ish... didn't they offer something like a Ferrari of some sort in both kit for and ready to run???

Motorized static kits, never sold assembled. :)

The winning entry will be announced as soon as there will be a winner in another forum (the contest was run on three forums, one in France (FOLM), the other in Europe, with our friends at Slot Forum).

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 08:25 PM

There you go, boyz n girls...

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The car was sold in both RTR and kit form, the kit being the more commonly found today. Issued in January 1964, it precedes the Classic Manta Ray by a full eight months. The body was molded by Paul Lindberg in special colors for Unique, but the same decals were used as in the Lindberg motorized kit. The body was then drilled on a jig to receive the brass chassis bolted under it, the long sprung drop arm being bolted with the Pittman motor. Machined aluminum wheels over 3/32" axles were shod with natural rubber tires. The guide was specific to this car and I have not seen it on any other model so far.

First, the RTR version in the scarce blue color:

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Now, the kit in its clear plastic box:

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And the contents:

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Note that there were two decal styles.

So the winner is...

Gary Bluestone was the first to figure it out, and wins the book that will include the signatures of many 1960s pro racing heroes. :)

"Arno" wins the book in France, and no one won the one on SlotForum...

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 09:00 PM

Dok,

This was a cool little thread/contest! This kind of stuff makes this whole forum better, more lively with cool historical accounts!

Keep up the great effort!

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 09:32 PM

Thanks, David.

We will do some more. :)

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 10:23 PM

Congratulations, Gary! Anyone who has met Gary knows that he is a dedicated enthusiast and has a keen mind for slot car history. :good:
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Posted 25 November 2009 - 11:00 PM

Dokk...

Good little idea... don't think I would have gotten that answer... made me think...

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 04:36 PM

Actually, some French upstart on the FOLM forum in Froggistanland contested my contention and presented the Strombecker Lotus 29 as "the first", giving the 1964 edition of the Auto World catalog as proof.

Problem is, Strombecker presented the Lotus model (kit & RTR) as "new" in their fall 1964 edition of their "Table Top Topics", and their previous edition had not a word about it. Meaning to me that Oscar was late at printing his catalog, what else was new.
Hence... :)

Gary, get hold of me by PM so that I can organize for your book.

No one at SlotForum gave a correct answer, and Arnaud Vallet of Reims, France, won the other book. Congrats to Gary Bluestone and Arnaud Vallet for their perspicacity and knowledge of "how it was".

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 06:33 AM

I had that ad pictured in my head but could not remember the name to save my soul. :wacko2: I even went to see if it was in the Dokk's first slot car book and couldn't find the book. Truth! :unknw:

Congrats to Gary Bluestone!
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 09:04 AM

Not to argue a point but I PMed Philippe this bit. Scroll down to History and Lionel. Someone was thinking about slot cars a long time ago! :)

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 09:39 AM

Don,

Lionel cars were NOT slot cars. And they were far from being the first to begin with, you will be very surprised when you read my new book... :)
I make a very clear distinction between rail-racing cars and slot cars. Not the same animal.

It is a bit of the same argument as naming this the first automobile in the world...

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 09:48 AM

It looks like a rolling beer brewery. :lol: Don't brew and drive...

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:25 AM

Hi Plilippe, :)

I lead by stating I wasn't arguing a point. You kindly explained in response to my PM that the Lionel cars were rail cars. It is interesting that any toy car was powered with electricity in 1912.

The "car" you posted above... Anyone that lives in Barren Plains, a very small farming community where I actually reside, will know it is a portable still. A person would move the still to different tobacco barns. In the fall the Dark Fired tobacco that we raise here is cured with wood slabs and saw dust. Smoke rolls out of these barns during the process and a little extra smoke to make moonshine isn't noticed by the Feds.

Some of the tobacco barns do burn down so you try to just fire one barn at a time, thus needing a "still on wheels" for ease of transporting it to the barn being fired.
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:46 AM

Don,

I don't think that Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot, who invented this steam powered artillery tractor in the 1760s, was thinking about booze... :)

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 11:42 AM

Well, Dokk, it's a long and pretty boring story so I'll just sum it up. Mr. Cugnot wasn't sure if it was legal to build portable stills or not so he just called them steam-powered artillery tractors. And I've known that a long time so it's got to be true and right! :unsure:
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