The date on the drawing proves our point (Don Siegel and mine): it is dated November 1964, as a basis for a project of a model that was issued in... early 1965, basically one year after the Unique Jaguar.
never mind, right?
The first bit of printed evidence of production of the Manta Ray was not published, as shown by Don, until May 1965. You would believe that such a successful seller, if issued before the Unique Jaguar, meaning late 1963, would have been shown or advertised before that 1965 date if it was such a big deal, but nothing, nada, zip until then.
Hence, it is hardly believable that it would have been produced before at least mid-1964, especially when the original drawing for the box is dated several months later and the motors powering it (the new Mabuchi FT36) did not even exist quite yet...
You are hooking yourself deeper and deeper like a fine tuna. Please keep at it!
PS: bam back.
Obviously I do not consider the Unique D Jag to be "Ready to Run" so take back your bam immediately
If you don't recognize the difference between the Manta Ray ready to run and all the previous wanna be's then this thread may set a new world record for bickering that neither one of us has the time to do.
I have to get back to work so I can make enough money to pay for that BOOK!
Move on P
I will rest my case if you stop making ridiculous comments like the one above