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[Cap Henry]

Ok guys were do you purchase the double stick 1/4 wide #9485 3 M tape that you can use for putting braid down

Kit Henry
Team CHR
HMS Speedways and Hobbies

[Zippity]

http://www.stac-inc.com/index.html

[4laneron]

Slot car corner has it, don't know if it's 3M.

[Old pink can guy]

Cap hope I am not wrong but contack cement is the best! If some guy puts one of Havliceks singel # 24's on their and it arc's it will keep going and pull off 20ft of braid and I am not kiddin saw it happen in the old days. No offense John I seen those monstor's you build!!! Nothin but Love KB.

[gascarnut]

Slot car corner has it, don't know if it's 3M.

It is - I have bought it from Slot Car Corner before. It worked great on my home track.

The problem with getting this stuff from industrial suppliers is no-one seems to hold it in 1/4" wide rolls. SCC does.

[Zippity]

Cap hope I am not wrong but contack cement is the best! If some guy puts one of Havliceks singel # 24's on their and it arc's it will keep going and pull off 20ft of braid and I am not kiddin saw it happen in the old days. No offense John I seen those monstor's you build!!! Nothin but Love KB.

Sorry Ken, but rubbish!!

[Old pink can guy]

Sorry Ron why is it rubbish or grabage as we call it no problem Iam not he to make eneimes!

[Bill from NH]

Ken, this double sided tape is just as good as contact cement. There are several tracks in the US using it & the NZ roadcouse Zippity(Ron) races on used it the last time they rebraided. Yes, the tape is a bit more expensive, but the rebraiding goes faster & cleanup is a breeze.

[Zippity]

With proper and careful preparation, contact tape is just as good as elephant snot

[munter]

If some guy puts one of Havliceks singel # 24's on their and it arc's it will keep going and pull off 20ft of braid and I am not kiddin saw it happen in the old days. No offense John I seen those monstor's you build!!! Nothin but Love

I would love to see that....you guys have all the fun!

I used the 3M on my setup track...it did everything previously said.
Easy,quick,what clean up? and more expensive



regards

[Slapshot]

Sorry for the large images but....

The 3M VHB adhesive tranfer tape can be also purchaced at RS Hughs. I am sure there are other stores that have it cheaper. Very strong tape used in skyscaper window application.

There are two thicknesse 5ml or 10ml. They have 1/4" wide. Most commonly used is the 5ml F9469PC. If heavy glue or banking use the 10ml. F9473PC

Use a 2" double layer near taps of 5ml. the 10 ml is stickier in rough or banked surface applications. It is also thicker so take that into consideration when recess is a factor.

RS Hughs

Here are some images of a recent construction a year or so ago using the 3M VHB tape. About 4 hours to tape. Was left a day with backing and braided in one day.

Have Braid and tape ready.



Lay tape down leave on backing tape until ready to lay braid. Burnish with a rounded popcycle stick or similar.



Clean braid with solvent like L/T or acitone to take off oil on braid during pressing



When braid is measured peel backing off slooooowwwly. Burnish any that want to peel up.



Feed braid down tap use a second thicker layer on tap areas.





Lots of backing left to recycle. IE not Rubbish...
There is a cat under that pile (left pile). At no time were any pets harmed during this process......



Finished product. Burnish braid down to tape with a roller or block of rounded wood.



Raymond

[Pappy]

Munter,

I noticed that your lanes come together at the one end. Do you like that now that you've raced on it or if you had it to do over would you keep them spaced the same all the way around. I want to build a track and I have two spots I want to bring the lanes closer together but I don't know if I'd like it after it was done.

[BackAgain]

I have been asking myself the same question Butch....I have one squeeze section on my track and it seems to me, all it does is eliminate a potential passing area. If you have a slightly faster car, you have to back-off for the squeeze then it takes a lap to get back into a passing position, just in time to do the same thing again.
It does add interest, but stops you from running the car at it's full potential.
Be interested in hearing your comments Munter.

[Kit Henry]

We have a slotmods track being built right now that we had to squeeze sections put in it for our 1/32 scale stuff as that way you have to work harder to pass we are hoping.

Kit Henry

[munter]

An interesting photostory by slapshot....all good stuff.

As to the squeeze sections on my track.....at the time I thought it was a good idea.I was influenced by tracks I saw on the net.
I used a routing strip that I made myself from 600psi airline hose and wanted to see what I could achieve with it.
The squeeze gives a better race line on small tracks and can save space.

I have had a couple of race nights and there can be issues with passing.
One comment from a scale enthusiast is that the squeeze gives "nose to tale" rather than "side by side" racing action. It does slow things down.

I am a car builder and racer,I am not into scenery although I can appreciate what others do.I am not into the digital stuff either.
If you want pure slotcar racing and have the space for wide track then leave the squeezes out.

If you are a scale buff then do what you want because it is your mdf!!!!

IMHO(sometimes not so humble)


regards

[BackAgain]

I have had a couple of race nights and there can be issues with passing.
One comment from a scale enthusiast is that the squeeze gives "nose to tale" rather than "side by side" racing action. It does slow things down.

I am a car builder and racer,I am not into scenery although I can appreciate what others do.I am not into the digital stuff either.
If you want pure slotcar racing and have the space for wide track then leave the squeezes out.

I think that pretty much says what I was thinking as well....although I did do some landscaping on my current track, it was more for "see if I can" than anything else....side by side can be interesting enough when the inside car hits the outside car without squeezes being thrown in.
I'm not into digital either, sounds like too much complication with all the different systems.
Don't know about you Butch, but I think I will leave the squeezes out.
Appologies for hijacking the thread Cap....didn't mean to do that.

[Kit Henry]

Ok guys do you have to paint the groove back in after you clean out the old glue with the router, as the double stick tape doesn't stick worth a damn to the bare wood !
So far I'm not real impressed for the money spent on the tape. May have 7 3/4 rolls for sale at cost of $22.00 per roll.

Kit Henry
HMS Speedways

[Zippity]

Yes, paint the groove before applying the tape.

Do it right once and you won't regret spending the $22 per roll

And forget the "squeezes" or chicanes - they add nothing and probably only damage your rear tyre rubber

[BackAgain]

And forget the "squeezes" or chicanes - they add nothing and probably only damage your rear tyre rubber

Appreciate your comment on the squeezes Zip...I am pretty well convinced they would be nothing but a pain. I am going without them when I start building my routed track.

[Jeff Buyer]

Having built five club tracks, I have to say that the 3M double sided tape is by far the best way to go. You do have to paint the braid recess, but the overall application goes much faster than by using contact cement or hot glue. I run both 32 scale and 24 scale cars and have had no problems thus far.

As for squeezes, I have raced on a four lane track that has a different squeeze section for a different pair of lanes throughout the course. Everyone who races on this track tends to forget where the squeeze is for their lane and crash into the car riding next to them. It's not fun!! The best case for a squeeze, in my opinion, would be to have one squeeze section for all lanes in a turn that leads to a long straight. However, I prefer no squeezes at all but tighter lane spacing so the racing is more side-by-side, with the spacing widening just a bit in the turns.

[DocSlotCar]

Any issues with cleaning the track when dirty after using spray glue?

[Pappy]

Doc,

Coleman fuel and Naptha don't seem to affect it but I would use them sparingly. I used the tape one time and it is great to work with.

[DocSlotCar]

Pappy, Thank You. going to rebraid our three tracks and would like to use something other than the "gorilla snot".....thank You for the input....Have a Happy New Year!

[Zippity]

Read the Spec sheets for the 3M tape.

It has very high tolerances for most cleaners and other crap that we add to track surfaces

[Zippity]

For more detailed information, check here: http://multimedia.3m...s6EVs6E666666--

We used 1/4" wide tape - #9485