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#51 John Gorski

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:24 AM

Here is a great article by Bob Emott on Nutley getting started
this shows the old 165 Engleman Flat Corners with the short straight in the donut Tony P. & the locals
new the secret of going fast in that donut....I only got to race once on that track
thats where i started racing with the Pro Boyz 1968 competition was intense.
It was the first time i saw the racers put Glue on all the corners for a race
I thought that was crazy cool & it worked!.
Nutley was noted for having the best group of young kid drivers I ever saw
I think the great family atmosphere made by the Tango family was the trick. ;)

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:03 AM

Great memories... Loved that engleman. Great home track advantage for us Geeks. When I first went there they ran the track the wrong direction until PVA & Emott showed up and told Mike to change it.

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#53 Larry Mattingly

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:25 AM

A 165' King... R-Geo had an Ogilvie that size.

Love the 90... less track calls under the bridge?

Square donut... local advantage... :unsure:

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:36 AM

Great memories...I had forgotten about that track (I had assumed it was always a King) until Tony mentioned when the roof leaked and ruined the Engleman.
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:38 AM

Leaked right over the lead-on and the water ran down the slots on the main straight. By the time Mike got in 2 days later it was all warped...

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:48 AM

I remember when we got the King track. It was pretty crappy. We ran it just for a short time in stock condition. Than one Saturday night Bob Emott and Phil Rubin said it sucked and we should redo it. Off came the braid and Bob decided epoxy would make the perfect surface. Now the issue was would the epoxy stick to the wood with years of glue on it. We spent a week washing the surface with chemicals and ever day the glue would again rise to the surface. It was a site to see all the pros there helping out with Phil Rubin sitting in the race directors booth giving orders.

After a week with zero progress, Bob and Mike decided to go for it and epoxied it anyway. The rest is King track history. John Gorski was the first to run a lap in anger and was like .30 or more faster immediately..

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:50 AM

Tony became "Tony P" because Mike Sr. couldn't fit his whole name on the lap counter.

The local racing there was as good as it gets. Gorski is right when he said this raceway had some of the best young racers in the country. I forgot about Sammy until I saw the article again. He always had a really cool black leather jacket.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 09:06 AM

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Here is a pic of one of he nicest guys I ever met in my life who is in the picture in this post next to me. This one was taken in 2008 when he came to one of our races at Zeps.

Here is what Tony P wrote at that time..

"Barry was one of the Nutley regulars and probably spent more hours at the track helping kids and other racers than he ever spent working on his own equipment. Barry used to always be the one you could count on for a ride home or to a race. Barry saved me many a late night bus ride home when I was a kid."

I have spoken to him since and at 84 he is as spry as ever. He doesn't live far from SpeedZone so I am trying to get him to come to one of our races again.

And Tony..yes...he still has that 68 Mustang that he drove in the great races to the Lido Diner.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 11:47 AM

In reading the recent history of the Teenager Revolution, I came upon this:

Brady continued until 1971 when Tony P took the Nutley Raceway over from Mike Tango. That was in February, one week after the 2nd Hinsdale Manufacturer's Race (where still 164 racers entered, despite the fact that most pros had already retired).

You took over Nutley Tony?

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 11:51 AM

HUH????? We got together and bought the king track. Stored it in Anthony Paterno's garage with the body of Jimmy Hoffa and Big ****...

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 12:33 PM

LOL his Pop was A capo for the Gambinos. He was Carlo Gambinos personal emmisary with his business in Jersey.. Joe died in 1988 of cancer after he and his wife accepted a plea in Florida. He plotted to wack his cousin and her son so he wouldnt have to pay back a 1 million dollar loan. Ahhhh the old days.
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 12:44 PM

I liked the knit shirt Noose.....You be stylin!!


It was the "High Rolls" later on after that. And man..when those paisley shirts came in Ed Sohl used to wear some outrageous stuff to the races. That's back when Mike Katz had his "fro" goin on. :D

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:46 PM

Remember the short period when one of the magazines complained about they way the pro looked and Jerry & PVA showed up in suits... If they could only see wing racers now. LOL.

"And if my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine. But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only." - Dylan

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:59 PM

Here's the flyer for the last "Nutley Nationals".

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:21 PM

very cool! may print a copy of that to hang at the raceway!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:17 PM

Other than the three NAMRA races I won at Nutley :) I remember running in a very big evening race where Jerry Brady and I qualified poorly and had to move up through several consi's. We ran 1,2 through two consi's until the first consi that Jerry won and I ran third missing the move up to the semi. I should have put new tires on!
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 07:22 AM

this stuff is really really awesome to find out all the background info and little tidbits on noose, gorski, and alot of the retro east guys makes me wish i grew up in the 60-70's
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 07:51 AM

Reading all this an enjoying the picturers makes you wish there was a time machine. Noose I never meet Barry ,but he sure look like a class act from your picture ! :)

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 09:02 AM

Wasn't there an "Oops" situation when one of the magazines (Car Model?) written by a prominent racer (Ray Gardner?) made reference to a certain raceway owner's girlfriend, causing much concern by his wife? Or is that story another slot urban ledgend?
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 09:09 AM

This is the Actual body I tried to win concours with at the 1968 car model...

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 10:01 AM

Happy New Year all . Those were the days.
When i blew up my corvette and Richie Sansonia took it apart to fix it and it was laying out in his driveway with parts everywhere for 3 months Mike Tango rescued me by coming over and hauling it all away to his buddies shop.I was driving it a week later.Thanks Mike.
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 10:11 AM

That's a sweet body, John! And the mirror detail of the red car BEHIND is fantastic! I notice you didn't say you WON that Concours... (?). That's hard to imagine; yours is a beauty!

Check out the first car in post #4 of this thread. Look familiar? I won Concours with it at DA Sano II: http://slotblog.net/...showtopic=10836
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 10:52 AM

I really miss those days at the Nutley Track, especially when i set off a rocket motor in the pit room. Tony P came in the back and said watch out Tango doesnt see the smoke. :shok: ....Just for kicks me ,Beltz and Wayne would run our cars backwords out of the bank down the straight and into the wall just to see who built a better car.........Now I just do it in the right direction :laugh2: :laugh2:
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 11:11 AM

Tex
Nice Penske Lola...Nobody new who I was back then
so i wasn't going to get picked that day no matter what.
I can't believe I still have the body...
Don't remember who won it some local? :rolleyes:
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Posted 01 January 2010 - 11:18 AM

[quote name='Howie Ursaner' date='Jan 1 2010, 08:01 AM' post='214600']
Happy New Year all . Those were the days.
When i blew up my corvette and Richie Sansonia took it apart to fix it and it was laying out in his driveway with parts everywhere for 3 months Mike Tango rescued me by coming over and hauling it all away to his buddies shop.I was driving it a week later.Thanks Mike.

Howie, I remember Richie, he was a tech at some Chrysler dealer on Long Island and worked on Bruce Clark's Hemi Charger when we used to run it a NY National Speedway. I recall Richie telling you that a lot of the bolts on your Vette's engine were "Marked" as if it had been worked on before. I forgot that Mike Tango had helped you out with that.
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