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#1 Robert Blaschke

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:41 PM

Here are some track layouts taken from a Revell Raceway Owners Binder that came with the Revell power supply I purchased on eBay a couple of years ago.

I use the power supply for my four-lane plastic track.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:55 PM

Neat looking tracks Robert. I wonder if any of the Revell tracks were installed in New England? When I started commercial racing in 1967, Mr. Raceways out of Cambridge, MA. was the largest track supplier in the area.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:57 PM

Anyone remember any locations of the Revell franchise stores?

I seem to remember "The Big Wheel" in Aurora, IL as being one in 1965, but cannot confirm anthing else. It was in the old Jewel Foods store in downtown on Rt 31 near rt 30 South Lake Street near Galena Ave.

Lighting was so poor in the store that I lost sight of my cars in the darkness on the big track. Got drafted soon after it opened and it was gone when I got back after two years.....
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:00 PM

Revell Control Console, Power Supply, and Timer and Driver's Control Panel.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:08 PM

Thanks for the pictures! Revell Raceway in Westchester, CA, was just a short bicycle ride from my home.

I always thought that the track at Pop's Raceway in Compton, CA, was shaped like a 2/3 scale version of the Revell Grand Prix track. Your picture confirms this. I remember that Revell eventually removed the "traversers" on the track at Westchester, CA. Pop's track was similar in layout, but much shorter and had esses in one of the short straights just before the 180 leading onto the first of two banked turns. The cars ran in the opposite direction on Pop's track. We used to have to double punch the first bank or risk flying off the track.

The Laguna Seca track at Westchester also lost it's traversers after a while, too. I also remember many hours on the Monaco track and that dip under the bridge.

We didn't have the Monza oval at Revell Westchester, but there was a place called Jem's Raceway on Manchester in Inglewood, CA that had one of these. The first Jem's Raceway was just a couple of blocks from my high school, Inglewood High. I remember one year when Jem's held an Indy 500 race on Memorial Day on this track.

I just can't remember if Jem's raceway had a Le Mans track or not. Jem's seemed to have bought all of their tracks from Revell. I do remember one track that that seemed to give the owners problems and was down more that it was up. This may have been a Le Mans track.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:14 PM

Hey, I just saw the picture of the Sebring track now.

Again, Jem's Raceway on Manchester Blvd in Inglewood, CA had one of these. When the raceway had to downsize and relocate, the only track to move to the new and last location for Jem's was one of these Sebring tracks.

Once again, the second Jem's Raceway held a Indy 500 race on this track. We ran seven timed heats, and for the last heat, we just ran until somebody hit the 500 lap first. LOL, there were only locals running at the track and I was fortunate enough to win this race with a slammed down Lancer Eagle body on a jaildoor F1. I still remember both the hump and the dip under the bridge. The second Jem's Raceway was further away and so I had to call my mom to pick me up after the race was over.
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:08 PM

Wow! The mystery is finally solved!

The Roadrunner Raceway of El Cajon, circa 1964 had four tracks. I believed three of them to be American. A black, an orange, and a small Engleman design. But the fourthth track has eluded me until now!

But the Revell Le Mans fits my memory perfectly! The hump bridge - the kinks leading to and from the straightaways, the gentle banked 180s. This is the first time I've ever seen this design again.

Thank you, Robert!

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:34 PM

Thank you for posting these track photos, Robert. In 1967 (or was it '68?) many of the SoCal racers stopped at a slot car track in Tucson, AZ, on the way home from the races in San Antonio, TX.

I'm not positive, but that Revell Monaco track sure looks like the track we raced on in Tucson. Anyone else remember this track?
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:28 AM

:D Thanks for posting these pictures. While I don't specifically remember visiting any raceways using these tracks after looking at the power supply I see there was a pink lane indicated. I know I saw a pink lane somewhere just can't remember where it was.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:51 AM

Yes, pink lane! And back then, blue and white were the center most lanes, too! As kids, we used to fight over trying to get either the blue or white lane. :aggressive:
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 03:08 AM

:D Ron,

I was in LA about '67 or '68 visiting relatives and I went to a few raceways there - probably where I remember it from. I remember rewinding an arm on my grandparents patio and driving to Pomona with my older cousin to go to Thorp for balancing but they were closed when we got there. Don't think I ever got to race - lack of ponies!!!

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:00 AM

I always thought that the track at Pop's Raceway in Compton, CA, was shaped like a 2/3 scale version of the Revell Grand Prix track.


Ron, that was a 220" Engleman... smile.gif

There was a huge raceway in Paris, France, that had 4 Revell tracks, including the Grand Prix and a Monaco.
We ran yearly 1000kms races on the Grand Prix...


That was my "home" raceway in 1967/69.


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Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:12 AM

The raceway in Jersey City had the Sebring track. What a horrible design. Cars would launch going under and over the bridge. Impossible to marshal under the bridge...
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:02 PM

The Monaco had the same problem plus the downhill under the bridge... what a mess that was on the opening lap of each race! :laugh2:
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:44 PM

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:51 PM

Ron, that was a 220" Engleman... smile.gif

There was a huge raceway in Paris, France, that had 4 Revell tracks, including the Grand Prix and a Monaco.
We ran yearly 1000kms races on the Grand Prix...
That was my "home" raceway in 1967/69.


Sorry PdL, but you are wrong unless you are thinking of another Pop's Raceway from a different place or a different point in time.

I was a weekly racer at Pop's raceway in Compton, CA, from 1985 to 1987. It was definitely *NOT* a 220 foot Engleman. Mike Boemker, John Skeels, and J.B. Burnett will tell you the same thing.
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:59 PM

Sorry Ron,

I was talking about Pop's Raceway in the early 1970s. The track at that time was an Engleman 220' as it can be seen in the race reports in MAR and MCR as well as Car Model magazine. Now I do not know anything of what happened after 1973, because... I was MIA. So of course anything is possible, but I was under the impression that Pop Pearson closed shop in 1973. :)

The raceway was in Compton on Rosecrans, and it was called "Rosecrans Raceway".

Is that the same place?

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:59 PM

Pop's track can be seen at this LINK.

The R&C Road race for F1s was the same track that Pop set up on Roscrans after J&Js closed December 1968.

As far as I know it was a custom track. The drawing done by Tom Daniel for that R&C article is a little off. The deadman was a tighter radius as can be seen in the picture. The article said it was 173 feet and I'd call that Dead Ball's Accurate.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:11 PM

Here is a picture of one of the legs on my 230 ft track originally from Sacramento, CA. Compare this to the legs on the tracks in the catalog. A Revell track, maybe?

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:37 AM

Hey John! You keep posting those pictures. I want my track returned.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 05:37 AM

Hey John! Any chance of this track being assembled? I'll come visit when I go to Nashville and see my daughter and three grandkids. Gus in Sacto
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:43 PM

Does anyone remember unique identifying characteristics of the Revell tracks, such as construction etc? How many were made, and what year were they last produced? Are any left? PDL mentioned locations in Europe, could some have survived there? Since Revell is still in business in models, maybe some history is still obtainable.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:41 PM

I have a Revell Raceways Operator"s Handbook with LA FOLLETTE RACEWAY on the front cover.
Any idea where this raceway was located?
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 04:21 AM

Of the 6 tracks at the Revell Raceway in Westchester (La Tijera Blvd) the racing was mainly done on the American Red, the Revell Monaco and the American Orange (in that order). The American Black had a few races scheduled but very rarely were the Revell Grand Prix or Laguna Seca used for any racing.

The Grand Prix track had the traverses removed (as Ron posted earlier) and had chicanes added at each end of the "back straight."

The Revell location was used as a sales center and training site for future track owners.

I recall the hottest wind that could be reasonably run on any of the tracks was a 27 single (or even better a double 30).

It was also a strict no-glue track and they wanted nothing to do with the CMRA (see how old I am!) but they strongly promoted the NCC classes.

I have always suspected that the Revell tracks and the American tracks were made by the same people: the construction was identical and the lumpy, bumpy features were present in both manufacturer's designs.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

Per my post in the "Where did you race as a kid?" thread, Revell bought International Raceways in Orange, California apparently to get the expertise of the young man who built a fabulous custom commercial track for his Tustin Avenue hobby shop, which he sold with track to the better-remembered Mr. Knapper.  Plus International already had a production shop up and running.

 

Note that although the Handbook lists a La Tijera Blvd. address, that was likely just for the offices plus the showroom/demonstrator/owner training track facility.  That location was convenient to Revell headquarters in nearby Venice, and just minutes from LAX for commercial track purchase prospects who would fly in from other states and foreign countries for test drives before purchase.

 

But note that the F.O.B. point is Orange, California, where production Revell track modules apparently were routed, painted, braided, wired and assembled IMO.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 02:27 PM

John,

         As you can see by the Revell layouts above your track is  NOT a Revell track. The red color was added when the track was in Manchester,GA. When I first saw this track in Jonesboro in the late 80's I'm

sure the track was blue.


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Posted 01 June 2014 - 04:02 PM

Thanks for the input Michael.  I must disagree with your assessment on the origins of this track.  The research I have done goes way beyond the color of the track, which has changed many times.  The west coast racers who are familiar with the track, such as Tom Hansen are of the opinion this is probably a Revell design.  Although not in the catalog dated Jan 1966, this track could have been built as a custom at the end of Revell's production run.  According to Gus Kelly who raced regularly at C&M in Sacramento, the track was set up in 1967.  On another interest, when I purchased this track in the early 90's, there was another track in the barn in Manchester that was very badly water  damaged that I did not get.  Do you know anything about this track? 


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:26 PM

John,

 

You are the one basing the possible origins on the color of the track, not me. Get in touch with the person who had it originally in Jonesboro ,GA, and get an accurate history, not opinions on a blog.

 

The second track was added from a trip to Florida by the co-owner who showed poor judgment.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:45 PM

Per my post in the "Where did you race as a kid?" thread, Revell bought International Raceways in Orange, California apparently to get the expertise of the young man who built a fabulous custom commercial track for his Tustin Avenue hobby shop, which he sold with track to the better-remembered Mr. Knapper.  Plus International already had a production shop up and running.

 

 

But note that the F.O.B. point is Orange, California, where production Revell track modules apparently were routed, painted, braided, wired and assembled IMO.

I used to ride my bike (A purple Stingray) past that site in Orange a lot. I always thought it was where AMRCs were built but I can't say who's tracks were built there, just that tracks were built there. Miniature Gran Prix tracks may also have been built there.......?

 

 Revell had one design feature that stood out in my mind- Vertical turns. This feature was probably the worst thing they did. The track at "Gun's Fun For Everyone" in Phoenix had "the sewer", a big dip going under the bridge, that track was similar to a Blue King. It was like a larger version of the "Sebring", it even had 8 foot straight aways in the donut making it like a "Purple Mile" donut.That feature you can see was used on most all their designs.

 

I do believe that there were many tracks built by the majors back then that were never in a catalog.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

One of the three raceways in Jersey City had Revell tracks. The small one king shaped had that dip under the bridge and the bridge had a hump. Basically un-runable back in 1966. I guess thats why everyone rather race on the oval even though at that time you had to run the whole race on one lane.


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:29 PM

Sorry to have offended you Mike, I am not questioning your knowledge of the track while it was in your area.  The track did not originate in Jonesboro.  It came from North Augusta, SC before going to Jonesboro, Ga.  around 1987.  It's last known location before that was in Sacramento, Ca. in 1972.  As for opinions on a blog, I don' t  think I would dismiss the memory of major west coast racers as just an opinion.  When I set out to find the origins of this track, I tried to keep an open mind but really thought it was an Engleman.  After looking at all the evidence of track design, comparison to Revell pictures of construction, location of origin and testimony of racers familiar with Revell tracks, I can come to no other conclusion than  this is a Revell track.  If you can prove otherwise, I would like to see the proof.  If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck and looks like a duck you don't need a DNA test to prove its a duck! 

 

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 09:39 AM

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:36 AM

over the years the rumors existed that one of the yellow tracks still survives hidden away, not free from termites. someplace in Denver Colorado. it was rumored to be the only surviving of the 3 tracks in the hey day of  the big  sports complex of af Denver sporting arena of Denver Blvd long since redeveloped  they say that was the yellow Revel  anyone know????????????

 say is hoist down canadian olgavby 130 fter still at Excalibur????


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:25 PM

 Ron, where was Pop"s in Compton? I raced at a track that was on the corner of Alondra and Long Beach Blvd.  I woud walk to there fro my aunts motel near GreenLeaf. It wasn't much of a walk and I remember a pace next to the track that was like Pic N Save. They had a stack of Jaguar D type models in 1/24 scale that were priced really cheap..

 

 

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 01:10 PM

John,

 

I didn't get to Rosecrans Raceway's (Pop's) original location but the relocated track was on Tamarind Avenue, one block north of Compton Blvd. The buildings are all gone. The track, today, would be in the middle of a parking lot of a major retail center.


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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:53 PM

This is very interesting, I never knew that Revell actually sold these tracks commercially.

 

The photo of the power supplies brings back memories as does the one of the control panel where you connected your controller.

 

I remember walking past what used to be a "Thriftimart" with my brother and him noticing them building the huge tracks at what would become Revell on La Tijera, I was less than 10 but spent many an hour in there racing and watching races.

 

I remember a track called the "Regal" it was the smallest of the tracks at Revell if I remember well.

 

I also remember they had a "Lap Counter" on wheels that they would use for tournaments to keep track of laps, (Not sure how that actually worked)

 

Thanks for posting.


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Posted 08 July 2015 - 08:28 PM

Does anyone know how many Revell tracks were made?


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 07:28 AM

They were made with no thought for how cars would run on them or marshalling them under the bridges..


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 02:52 PM

They were made with no thought for how cars would run on them or marshalling them under the bridges..

Very expensive learning curve makes for good firewood :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 19 July 2015 - 06:56 PM

According to the catalog, the Monaco was the only one that had the infamous gutter bridge that was difficult to marshal.  The other bridges do not appear to be any worse than the modern low clearance bridges now in use.  Still would like to know how many Revell tracks were made.


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