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#1 Jairus

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 10:30 PM

A friend asked me a while back if I could build a Mike Steube first generation angle-winder Lola coupe. Many years ago Philippe asked me to do some lettering on a body he was putting on the actual chassis Mike ran back in 1968.
This is the body prior to my doing the lettering and shortly after the chassis restoration.
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The body for me is very important since I am a painter first and a builder second. I don't have the same body Philippe sent me but will do my best to replicate the chassis and lettering as close as possible. (Frankly... even Philippe admitted to me that he didn't even have the correct body either but the one shown is pretty close.
I have two such Lola bodies... one by True Scale which seems flatter and more like the pictures in an old MCS racing report. The second was provided by my friend Howmet and is more scale in appearance. However the wheel openings are more scale and require larger diameter tires than this build provides in my opinion.
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The motor is suppose to be a 517 Champion. My version didn't have the aluminum can bearing but is fairly close....
Ring gear is Weldun, provided by Rick Thigpen. (Thanks Rick!)
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The magnets are from a Parma Death Star which I have usually understood to be about as strong as '68 era Arcos. But the arm was re-wound by Sir John Havlicek a while back. The wire wrapping, though beautiful, is way too heavy of a gauge (H55). I ordered a set of Pro-Slot HEQ magnets so the wind won't melt the endbell but.... if John has a milder wind, well I am listening... ;)

Cutting brass is done and ready for some wire bending! I learned from Rick's past thread that he messed up the chamfered corner on the motor bracket back in '08. I shall not be making that same mistake, but it is interesting that Mike skipped over the "motor box thing" and went right to steel rails front to back! Huh? :) Truely a man before his time!
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Front wheels are Associated and rears Parma knock-offs. The fronts only fit a 3/32" axle... so I will either sleeve the front axle tube or attempt to drill out the axle hubs to accept 1/8" drill blank front axle.
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Not sure what path to take at this moment. Drilling out vintage wheels has never gone well for me in the past so sleeving the axle tube seems the least risky path.
Stay tuned as I will be firing up the iron in the morning along with a fortifying cup of French Roast!
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Posted 21 May 2010 - 11:46 PM

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That is a sweet build up of a Mike Steube car. ;) I have to say Mike stuff is great so is his persona, so thanks for posting
this build.


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Posted 22 May 2010 - 12:12 AM

I forgot to say that I'm so lucky to meet this Legends from the past and celebrate their achievement. So this build is even more
sweet for me personally.



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Posted 22 May 2010 - 12:24 AM

Posted Image a very nice project
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Posted 22 May 2010 - 04:12 PM

Nice project Jairus. I'll enjoy following along.

I have more 1/8" axle Associated wheels than 3/32". I'd be happy to swap a set of NOS 1/8" for your 3/32" if that would help. Just let me know......

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#6 Jairus

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 06:52 PM

Nice project Jairus. I'll enjoy following along.

I have more 1/8" axle Associated wheels than 3/32". I'd be happy to swap a set of NOS 1/8" for your 3/32" if that would help. Just let me know......

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Yes, let's do it! :)

Will be in the mail to you tomorrow, Thank you.

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 07:22 PM

Got the center section done this morning. Happy with the progress tho... I think I got the motor angle off by one or two degrees... :shok:
Hanging the pans and drop arm are next but the pictures I took SUCK! Will have to see what is up with this stupid camera and take some more.


Stopped by the hobby shop moments ago looking for wire. Found this:
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It's servo wire for radio control stuff. I suspect that this is where Mike got that neat tri-color wire for his build since Radio Control aircraft were well established in 1968. The insulation is soft and flexable and three wires just about doubles the number of strands of the vintage wire used back then. But, the colors are not Korrect! Going to hit the "RC Plus" on Monday and see if they have anything in Y, R and G. :music:

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 07:40 PM

Will follow this one closely, Jairus. I always love when you do a build of one of the historic cars. Your chassis work is some of the cleanest I've ever seen and the bodies are definite works of art. :wub:

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 09:15 PM

Thank you Michael!

Okay, finally got a good pic worth posting. Getting tired today so with all the family activities.... I think the Watson shop will close down for the night.
Here is the chassis as it sits thus far.
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Posted 23 May 2010 - 08:14 PM

Finished the chassis today. Nice and simple piece but hard to get the angles right since Mike sort of made this one up in his head as he went... or so I figured. Left and Right rails seem to be at slightly different tapered angles according to the pictures.
At any rate, the chassis is in the tumbler for a few hours while I begin painting on the body. :)
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LOST final on tonight... B)

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 08:42 PM

Hi Jairus,

if John has a milder wind, well I am listening...


Well heck Jairus, you coulda sent me a telegram :) A #25 is nutso for that motor, a #28 would be more like it. As the young poeple would say..."all you gotta do is aks".

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 08:45 PM

Jairus its just beautiful and I'm looking forward for the paint job. :)



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Pistol Pete you will always be in my memory.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 08:54 PM

Hi Jairus,



Well heck Jairus, you coulda sent me a telegram :) A #25 is nutso for that motor, a #28 would be more like it. As the young poeple would say..."all you gotta do is aks".

-john


John, In your opinion would a thin lam or a normal lam arm be correct for 1968? I can send you either one for rewinding. Also, the Champion motor already has the big-foot brush tubes! Just tell me what you need or want my friend 'cause I'm ask'n! ;)

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 09:41 PM

I am not John (darn it!) but in 1968 all the magazines were pushing the ".007" laminations armatures as the hot setups. :)
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:23 AM

Hi Jairus,

I agree with my buddy Gary 100%. If there's a particular wind that would be "korrect" just let me know, otherwise I think a #28...maybe a #27 is pushing things. If you send the arm, it's always best to send the motor too so I can space it out for the can and magnets.

Also, the Champion motor already has the big-foot brush tubes!


It also looks like it has the "super proofer" hardware or whatever that's called with the brass endbell plates. Still, I think it's best to keep the motor within reasonable limits.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 08:49 AM

Yes, let's do it! :)

Will be in the mail to you tomorrow, Thank you.


Looking good Jairus :) . I'll get the wheels in the mail to you ASAP.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 09:54 AM

Hi Jairus,

I agree with my buddy Gary 100%. If there's a particular wind that would be "korrect" just let me know, otherwise I think a #28...maybe a #27 is pushing things. If you send the arm, it's always best to send the motor too so I can space it out for the can and magnets.



It also looks like it has the "super proofer" hardware or whatever that's called with the brass endbell plates. Still, I think it's best to keep the motor within reasonable limits.

-john

I just happen to have one un-used arm left that I will send you. It and the motor too will head your way today. Thank you John! :)


Looking good Jairus :) . I'll get the wheels in the mail to you ASAP.

Rick


Rick, the 3/32 wheels will go out today! Thank you. :)

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 10:49 AM

Hi

From memory, a 27. Later that year when we did the NCC, part of the reasoning with the G.20 wind was that a 27 was a pretty typical wind on most tracks, that only a few races/racers/cars on very fast tracks would have hotter wind.

But why not just look at the spec sheet?

For casual play, however, a 29 would greatly increase motor life, not be appreciably slower and lot less frantic to drive.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 11:22 AM

Did some painting last night.
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Lots left to do while the motor is in John Havlicek's hands including painting the interior, finding the right lead wires and truing up some nice new rubber.
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 12:18 PM

Exceptional work Jairus!

Will you have an opportunity to run the car to see how it performs?
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 01:15 PM

I don't quite know Ernie. Track in Depoe Bay is only open on the weekends through the summer unless it finds a new buyer soon. I have no car to drive there... but would like the opportunity to put at least a few laps on it as a test. Could prob. borrow my mom's car for a few hours I suppose.

Mostlikely I will simply bench test it here and send to the new owner and let him do the testing. ;)

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 06:05 PM

Lots left to do while the motor is in John Havlicek's hands including painting the interior, finding the right lead wires and truing up some nice new rubber.
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Hi Jairus,

Better add polishing the rear wheels to your list :) (if you haven't already). I couldn't resist polishing the 1/8" axle fronts before I sent them. Hmmmm....shiny goodness :D . They went out this afternoon.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 07:12 PM

You polished them? :shok:

Curses... (sigh), another thing to add to the list... :laugh2:

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 04:49 PM

"Sir" John Havlicek returned the motor for this build and it sounds wonderful! Much better than the political machinations spouted by a former Beatle this week...
I did some final assembly work on the chassis today and compaired the photos to the original car now retired in LASCM.
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Observers will note that my lead wires are not the same color as the original. Well, you see.... they don't make those wires any longer. The wiring was sourced by Mike back in the day from mostlikely the same manufacturer as RC servo wire, but that type is no longer available in those colors. The wire I used is as close as I could get. Not that there might be something closer, just that I didn't find it.
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Body painted but still some details left on the interior. Will have to post final pictures very soon!
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 04:25 PM

That is sooooo nice Jairus - looks pristine! I always enjoy seeing the progress of your builds - thanks for sharing them!! I'm looking forward to seeing the completed body!

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