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#1 Jairus

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:11 PM

Nobody I know likes the pink/salmon color that Parma casts their crown gears in! I know why they do it but I too hate the color choice they use. Well, instead of hunting down good straight surviving Cox gear or going with some weird foreign job I suggest the simply option of dying the pink any other color!!!

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Rit dye is made for fabrics, but will work very well with plastics and nylon. It is about two bucks a box at the local fabric store. A package that will last for a couple years if stored in jars once cool (as shown). A white nylon endbell or pick-up guide can be dyed any color of course. But a pink Parma gear can only be dyed something in the red side of the color wheel. Scarlet/red, orange, black, or purple or are pretty much your only choices. Toss one in blue and it will come out violet because blue and red make violet!

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I only add a cup or two of water and two table spoons of vinegar to the stuff in the package. Bring to a slow rolling boil.

Then run a copper wire through the gear so it is easy to find and remove...

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The dye should be hot enough to steam but not bubbling too much or it will splatter dye on your shirt marking it FOREVER!!!

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Only took eight minutes to make it this black!

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Cold water and a toothbrush will set the color and remove any extra dye. Polish up the aluminum and it's ready for installation.

Done, now go have a beer, because the Kingie can no longer turn his nose up when your car shows its tail in the turns!

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:13 PM

How about Cox Gray color?:)
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:17 PM

Very nice, Jairus. :)

What does the vinegar do?
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:19 PM

Ask a woman, and I don't mind pink. :rolleyes: :laugh2:


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:23 PM

How about Cox Gray color?:)

You have to start with white and use black for a shorter length of time.

What does the vinegar do ?

Helps the dye to penetrate.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 09:52 PM

Does the wear area of the gear eventually show the pink again?
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 10:12 PM

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 09:46 AM

Does the wear area of the gear eventually show the pink again?

I have never seen it on my gears.

All colored nylon guides by Jet Flag (vintage stuff) are dyed. The color rubs off on the guide fin where it contacts the slot, but those are generally light colors.

But I have never seen a gear ever show any pink again. How could it? Nylon is semi translucent and the black dye has completely darkened it like turning off the lights! Longer it is left in the dye the deeper the dye goes.

Even if you were to take a knife and scrape a tooth you would barely lighten the color tint to a dark red or maroon. The only place a gear wears is the tooth face and that gets oil and track dirt in it anyway which is... BLACK! ;)

No, this is a permanent solution in my book!

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:35 AM

Thanks for the tip, Jairus. :)
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:38 AM

Any problems with the gear remaining true? I know some of the Parma ones aren't to begin with wondered if the heat for the dying process caused it to go out round even more.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:45 AM

Should be fine if you don't boil it. We used to do R/C suspension arms with no problem.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:01 AM

I use a slow rolling boil and only once saw any deformation of a gear. And THAT was when I just tossed the gear in the pan and let it sit on the bottom. Three of the teeth showed marked rounding as the nylon softened, so it went into the trash.

That is why I now use a wire and stir the contents to keep heat from concentrating on the bottom. The gear can even be suspended from the bottom (source of heat, doncha know) with the wire wrapped around a rod.

Normally the temp is set about med-high.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 01:02 PM

That is sooooooo kool. Thanks!

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 01:55 PM

This also works well for a clear controller handle. The handle will look like one of the colored Parma handles but only a different color, the one you chose.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 04:16 PM

This also works well for a clear controller handle. The handle will look like one of the colored Parma handles but only a different color, the one you chose.

Dan

Dan, you just took this to the next level......What about lexan??

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:04 PM

Dan, you just took this to the next level......What about lexan??



Handle's are lexan, all I know is I have done it many times in slow boiling water with out a problem. This might not work with a lexan body as it might try to return to it's original shape. Maybe cooler water would help but then it might be harder for the color to set. Dan
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 06:11 PM

Every time I see the brand name "Cox" my mind spells it "Wanx."

Cool thread, J! :)

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:24 PM

I actually may have been one of the first painters to use this technique in the 60s. When undercoated it gives you some pretty awesome candy effects.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:29 PM

Real men like pink :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 08:46 PM

This rocks I hate pink its so un retro looking, I wonder if i have any easter egg dye? and will it work?


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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM

Thanks for the tip- same technique we used back in the day to dye jet flags.... pink.

I had good success coloring the outside of the gears with a silver sharpie while the motor is run at low RPM. The result caused a retro event tech inspector in the recent past to question what kind of gear I was using....
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 12:44 AM

Hey Rich ! You won't catch me walking into the "Groove" and running my cars with your statement. My whole fleet of cars are "Pink". Gus in Sacto
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:52 AM

This rocks I hate pink its so un retro looking, I wonder if i have any easter egg dye? and will it work?



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Easter egg dye is food based and the colors weak, being mostly pastels anyway. It might work but I highly doubt you will find the color "black"... ;)

Rit dye is very strong, quick and cheap.... although I do like M.G.'s idea! :clapping:

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 04:06 PM

I actually may have been one of the first painters to use this technique in the 60s. When undercoated it gives you some pretty awesome candy effects.


I was recently very surprized when I "stripped" the paint off of a gold metallic Monogram Snake body and found that the body was not clear but rather "tinted" goldish yellow. The body was simply painted silver underneath to create a cool "candy" effect as Noose eluded to. I wonder how many other factory bodys were done this way that we are unaware of?

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:15 PM

This rocks I hate pink its so un retro looking, I wonder if i have any easter egg dye? and will it work?

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:28 PM

I was recently very surprized when I "stripped" the paint off of a gold metallic Monogram Snake body and found that the body was not clear but rather "tinted" goldish yellow. The body was simply painted silver underneath to create a cool "candy" effect as Noose eluded to. I wonder how many other factory bodys were done this way that we are unaware of?

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That is a standard DuBro thing, ie: Tinted plastic painted silver underneath. I have had a number of Dubro bodies that I built chassis for that were pre-painted with colored windows, and that is the key to look for. Tinted windows.... ;)
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 08:23 AM

and that is the key to look for. Tinted windows.


yes, that's pretty obvious but, a Monogram Snake hasn't got windows...

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 09:01 AM

Well, okay that would certainly be harder to tell!
But Mike the question you asked was about "other factory bodies".

Revell had some too, or so the late Bob Paeth eluded to them. He said to me one night while we talking slots.... " that he watched the process of molding vacuum form bodies." The process from molding to trimming to painting was done very quickly. But what really amazed him was what he called magic paint where the body was sprayed silver only! But when the paint dried the body was candy colored!

I assume what he saw was silver shot into colored plastic and that was from Revell!

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 09:49 AM

I was recently very surprized when I "stripped" the paint off of a gold metallic Monogram Snake body and found that the body was not clear but rather "tinted" goldish yellow. The body was simply painted silver underneath to create a cool "candy" effect as Noose eluded to. I wonder how many other factory bodys were done this way that we are unaware of?

I do believe that was probably a clear body that was etched by the gold. Your stripper did not remove what had bonded with the plastic. I have stripped clear bodies before that retained some painted color.

Jairus, Here is the "magic" paint that Bob must have seen. All of these are Candy colors that look silver in the jar. I believe Ulrich paints were the best for clear bodies. When you painted with these colors they went on silver and dried Candy. It says you can brush them but they did not work for me. Either they are old and won't work or they have to be airbrushed. Haven't got to it yet.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 10:23 AM

Lacquer?
Enamel?


Send me one? ;)

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:36 AM

My guess it's just silver with pearl? If so what's cool is back then pearl was pearl, not mica like today. That's why if you use say a purple pearl ( mica) over white today it will flop a ugly greenish color. The good stuff that's real doesn't


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Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:59 PM

If I remember this right back in the 60's Practa was the stuff to use. The color was on the bottle but when ya painted it it came out the color you chose but inside of the body was sliver. Maybe Noose can set us stright on this. The dye thing was cool but it also tinted the windws too. Hope this helps you guys! Ken.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:57 PM

The Ulrich paint was lacquer I believe. It was thinner than any enamel I remember from the time. If you were to brush it on , you needed a bigger soft brush that left less brush marks. And the silver base provided some protection against oil, tire goop, etc. The tinted bodies were also a treat as stated . I wish they could do something like that now, then spray silver for "colder" looking color, or gold for the "warm" look.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 03:10 PM

Jairus,Rob I will send you a bottle on one condition. You experiment with it to try to get it to work and post your results here on the Blog. PM you address for a bottle. Joe

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 05:05 PM

Joe- When this paint came out it was the greatest thing since sliced bread for me. No more screwed up paint jobs! It went on easy and came out great. If you missed a spot, just paint over it. The silver ALWAYS came out underneath! I finally located a bunch of jars of the stuff, but unfortunatly, after experimenting with it for a while, I found out it no longer works.The biggest problem now is that it no longer comes out without streaking. Most likely it is some breakdown of the chemicals due to age. I did NOT try it in an airbrush, just a regular paint brush like in the 60's. Too bad this can't be duplicated again. It was great stuff back in the day. :)
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 05:11 PM

I remember putting salt in the dye when dying parts with Rit dye.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 05:13 PM

Here is a link with some video links on dying parts.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 06:14 PM

I hear you were responsible for the pink color on the spur gears or did Ken find out pink plastic was cheaper?

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 06:20 PM

Joe- When this paint came out it was the greatest thing since sliced bread for me. No more screwed up paint jobs! It went on easy and came out great. If you missed a spot, just paint over it. The silver ALWAYS came out underneath! I finally located a bunch of jars of the stuff, but unfortunatly, after experimenting with it for a while, I found out it no longer works.The biggest problem now is that it no longer comes out without streaking. Most likely it is some breakdown of the chemicals due to age. I did NOT try it in an airbrush, just a regular paint brush like in the 60's. Too bad this can't be duplicated again. It was great stuff back in the day. :)


Gary, I had the same exact results :angry: . I was expecting magic. I am sending a bottle to a couple guys to see if they can get it "flowin". I did use some Ulrich Black on a repop Batmobile and the coverage was amazing.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 07:47 PM

Buy a black one, simple? :laugh2:


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 08:20 AM

Buy a black one, simple? :laugh2:


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 08:52 AM

Do they have them on the wall at BP?

Ray, if they do, they're probably Tore's. He was dyeing them black 2 or 3 years ago.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:12 AM

I hear you were responsible for the pink color on the spur gears or did Ken find out pink plastic was cheaper?



LOL sorta kinda....... the original PSE Spur gears were made in Pink as it went with the pink/black color theme of PSE at the time. The crown gears were after my days at Parma.

I know that there were some spur gears molded in black color for a short time only.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:34 AM

Any black Parma spurs I have are 64 pitch. People can say what they want about the pink gears. I always found their plastic to be quite durable. When my kids raced, I always made sure to have a Parma spur on their cars. My daughter once made her 30T spur into a 29T but the car continued to run fine.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:04 PM

Remember, it takes a REAL man to wear pink! Or use pink...I guess.. :blink: :laugh2:
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 03:01 PM

The sunshine orange doesn't work very well for dye LOL!
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:39 PM

LOL?
What is up with that?

Sunshine Orange has not been used, note the sealed box. It is the black I was and almost always use. The box is just an example so those who are looking for the stuff will recognize what to look for. But thanks for the information.

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Actually, that is not true. I did use an orange on this replica of an "Orange Picker" end bell for another build. Of course I started with a white endbell and dyed it to match the original on the left.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 07:20 PM

I just saw the orange at the store and I gotta be honest, I wanted the orange real bad coach :)
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 10:59 AM

Hey Rich ! You won't catch me walking into the "Groove" and running my cars with your statement. My whole fleet of cars are "Pink". Gus in Sacto



I was just talking about the gear !!! But you need a invite to race at THE GROOVE so we won't catch you just walking in ???
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 04:21 PM

Jairus,Rob I will send you a bottle on one condition. You experiment with it to try to get it to work and post your results here on the Blog. PM you address for a bottle. Joe


OK, I had time to try the bottle Joe sent me.

Photo 1) shows a body I airbrushed. The bottle said "Brown" but the results were just silver. Note: I added a little thinner to the paint and sprayed as I normally would.

Photo 2) I noticed where my airbrush "spit" I had a couple dark colored spots

Photo 3) I then airbrushed some paint straight at the point that it would run. It shows a halo of a pinkish color

Photo 4) I then just blobed some on with a brush to see what would happen. Just shows a darkish red / maroonish color

I'm not sure how it was orginally supposed to work, but it didn't seem to have any special effect for me? My paint also seemed very thin?

Hopefully Jairus has better results?

It is a KILLER ultra fine silver that's cool and I will use up:good:

Thanks Joe

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