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#1 Dayble

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:51 PM

It's been known for some time that I love the "weird and the wonderful" much of it to do with my growing up in the '60s and '70s.
This is one that kinda fits both categories...

The Japanese manufacturer Kyosho has produced a line of 1/28 R/C cars called MiniZ for some time. These have some of the most gorgeous bodies molded in plastic this side of Larry Flynt's girls.

My good friend and partner in crime Jim Armstrong, a great AZGR slot racer and master model builder, came across one of these, the 1991 Le Mans winning Mazda 787B Group C. Jim wanted to build it himself but sold it to me and so I decided it needed to be done properly in his honor.

Rapid Rick Schoenfeld, another AZGR racer from Tucson, had seen a web site that listed a slot chassis made specifically for these bodies and offered by a company called PN Slot, Inc. I started searching and found only one for sale in the US. So I bought it.

It's a nicely-made PlaFit type chassis made of stainless steel. It came with 3 mm axles and bearings all around and one of the nicest guide flags this side of Slick 7.

Before Cheater kicks me off of the 1/24 board it would probably be a good idea to show a couple of pix to demonstrate that this baby is much closer to a 1/24 than a 1/32 and there is no 1/28 safe zone!

Here it is with a couple of 1/24 BRM cars.

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And here it is with the Slot.it 1/32.

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So back to my damaged youth and the "twist".

The body came mounted on a dummy chassis, ready to mount on the R/C chassis or just sit on the shelf collecting dust.
After looking at it and the Slot.it toy for a few weeks I decided that my Big Daddy Ed Roth and a few other youthful influences had taken over and this sucker would look a whole lot better with bigger wheels and tires. The Great Egg knows I'm no purist!
And besides, why should I do it the easy way?

So I decided to mount up the incredible BRM Toyota GTP wheels shod with IndyGrip IG3101 killer tires.
No big deal. Right? Wrong. They slid right on to the 3mm axles but stuck way out from under the body.
After some measuring and Belgian lubrication of the gray matter, I figured that if I bored through the outer rim of the wheel that I could drill and tap the inner portion of the hub and then turn off the outer hub where the set screw is normally found.
Everything worked well except I used the 3 mm set screws from the BRM and they stripped right out. Not enough TPI (threads per inch) for the thinner-walled inner hubs. Roger Gunning, my travel partner to the MS Friends event at the Petersen, suggested I step down to a 2-56 set screw and those did the trick for the second set of wheels. I have over a hundred laps on the car so far and they are holding torque perfectly against the flats I ground on the axle. (Axle Flats... is that a country band?)

Milling through the rim, ribs, and all.

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Turning off the outer hub.

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Here's a couple of shots of the chassis;

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This baby is heavy! 195 grams total. Fighting weight for a BRM is 180.
I haven't run it on one of the bigger tracks yet with the 1/24 cars but I did run it on my 1/32 track and was doing OK against a Scaly Camaro with a magnet.

I know it is odd but I like the way it turned out.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 09:04 PM

You're right, Dave, it is a beautiful bod! Have fun!

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 10:40 PM

Very nice! Have fun indeed!
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 11:47 PM

Awesome, Dave!

The MiniZ bodies are really nice but at $30 for a body I can only admire - sigh!!!

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:55 AM

Dave,

These bodies are fantastic for any guys wanting to start racing scale model car hardbodies. Here is a LINK to a post of mine, a while ago.

Enjoy,

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 10:21 AM

Dave,

These bodies are fantastic for any guys wanting to start racing scale model car hardbodies. Here is a LINK to a post of mine, a while ago.

Enjoy,

Jan



Hey Jan,

The thing that I can't figure out is why they went to a new scale . . . with so much stuff available at both 1/32 and 1/24? Reminds me of all the beautiful 1/28 scale MG Vanquish slot cars that came out a few years ago. Given the Vanquish investment and their ultimate demise . . . I couldn't understand what they were thinking at the time. Cheers,

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:05 AM

Hi

Mark, 1/28 has been popular with japanese manufacturers since at least the 60s.

The issue with MiniZ for me is skewed from YOUR vision. It always seemed to me that if one wanted digital slot cars, it would be easier to use the Mini-z tech, or the even cheaper Radio Shack R/C tech. See, the RC cars aren't a solution to fun racing. Digital has attractions, but by using an R/C system the slots make the driving and racing easier, but you could have "cross overs" everywhere and need no in hardware to make it work!

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:21 AM

As Rocky mentioned- 1/28th has been a popular R/C scale in Japan for some time.... and I have been told that our "1/24th" lexan bodied slot racers are actually closer to 1/28th...
That's thirty minutes away. I'll be there in ten.
 
 

 


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Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:00 PM

Nice looking ride--- I enjoy racing slots AND Mini Z's-- and for the same reason I like 1/32--scale appearance!!! The Mini Z's are VERY scale looking on the track--and they ARE very close in size to our typical 1/24 slot car---could be our 1/24's are not true to scale?
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:15 PM

Great job! I had the same idea for the Mini Z Knight Rider car. I took the body and the scanner, added a resistor, fog and brake lights, and the car looks awesome going around the track. Not the fastest thing you've ever seen, but definitely gets attention at the local track.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:19 PM

Jan,

It looks like you built your 787B with the Mini-Z wheels. Do you have any shots of the chassis?
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 06:49 PM

Hey Guys,Posted Image another shot at the wierd and wonderfull,
but I don't think that Dave is as far out as one would think
examine this photo and note the clearence arround the wheel
now examine the next photo
It seems that the BRM 1/24 wheels fit these cars closer to scale
than the Mini-Z wheels do, BRM wheels are next on my list to finish this car
Cheers Mates,

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:59 PM

just some pics to further my point

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 10:26 PM

JimA!!!

I just got back from Barrett-Jackson @ Vegas and saw this...I think it looks right and I've got all the tools to make it happen.

Let me know when!

I wish you could have worked the show with us!

Heal (heel) up that Achilles' and we'll do Scottsdale in January.
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