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#1 TSR

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 03:00 PM

As promised, here are the pictures of Jim Kramer's dragsters. These were purchased from a storage auction for unclaimed merchandise after the storage fees remained unpaid, then retained by the bidder for many years before being put on eBay recently. The history is being traced as we speak.

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Nice box with tons of period full-size passes for drag races, showing an interest from Kramer in both large and small dragsters...

Now for the first car:

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More to come... :)
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 03:05 PM

Cars # 2 and 3:

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That's it folks! :)
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 03:37 PM

Thanks for sharing and glad they went to a safe place.

As I mentioned in the other thread you can see at least one of these cars in the April '67 Car Model at a drag meet as reported by Bob Braverman. Would be very interested to see what arm is in the car that won the meet. The "Fred" painted on the helmet is so cool.

I would hope they will get restored or at least protected from those "Mag" eating bacteria. If you restore them please give us a step by step.

Since I never saw anything like these run my dream would see these make a Top Fuel pass on 36 volts. Please make a little boys dreams come true. Run them and YouTube it. :)

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 04:07 PM

Tires are amazingly still fresh, so who knows, the LASCM Uber Master may allow it some day... :D

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 04:15 PM

Excellent workmanship! I like the attention to detail like countersunk flat head screws. Building the aluminum bodies for these things was much harder than you'd think. Nice job!
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 04:19 PM

Note the epoxy halfway up the sides of the Graupner rear tires in an effort to keep them from blowing.
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 04:44 PM

I like his machined end bells and gear guards.Nicest around.There were some awfully crude cars that set records,not like these these which are about as nice as they got.Bob Braverman's cars were nice.
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 05:00 PM

Some people were real craftsmen. I can't believe that I actually built these things... I was fifteen years old when I built my first. The ULTIMATE scratchbuilt!


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Posted 10 December 2010 - 05:03 PM

Would I dare to do it again...? I just bought a new Dremel!


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Posted 10 December 2010 - 05:21 PM

Yes, thanks for posting these. And I'd like to second that request to see how you restore the magnesium parts that are corroded. I had to do that on the first magwinder type dragster I found on eBay, and it was very, very hard! Mine was pitted much worse than these, but would love to pick up any pointers from the restoration experts...

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PS: At least according to the magazines, most of the arms used by then, maybe starting even earlier, were 6 volt Rams... if there was anything else it was kept a secret!



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Posted 10 December 2010 - 05:40 PM

Don,

 

Pssst... I had Ram 3 volts. Roy Wong built a Magwinder with a 3 volt and it went up in smoke! Even fried the leadwires which were lampwire!


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Posted 10 December 2010 - 07:37 PM

Would I dare to do it again...? I just bought a new Dremel!


Dremel rules!!! biggrin.gif

And thanks to PdL for showing these lovely beasts.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 08:24 PM

Ahhhh, PdL. So tell us of the aroma that comes with this well-preserved package.


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Posted 10 December 2010 - 08:28 PM

They stink. Lovely smell... :D
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 11:06 PM

And I'd like to second that request to see how you restore the magnesium parts that are corroded. I had to do that on the first magwinder type dragster I found on eBay, and it was very, very hard! Mine was pitted much worse than these, but would love to pick up any pointers from the restoration experts...


Bead blaster with fine glass beads should make it easy. That's assuming they can be disassembled without damage. unsure.gif


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Posted 22 May 2011 - 07:04 PM

Very cool dragsters. I like them all.


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Posted 21 December 2014 - 01:43 AM

Fasten your seatbelts... Bump! :yes3:


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Posted 21 December 2014 - 09:19 AM

Good idea, Bob. 

 

Were these ever restored, Philippe? Great looking dragsters... juste ze thing for draguer les filles... 

 

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 11:03 AM

Hi Don,

No, we did not touch a thing. So many other projects to complete before getting to these, maybe never.

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 11:31 AM

It would be nice to see these all shiny again. I used to disassemble mine on a regular basis and re-polish the frame rails but you would need are real craftsman to do that correctly. Like restoring fine art.
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Posted 21 December 2014 - 11:50 AM

I would seem to be in the minority here but I don't think you should restore them at all. Maybe clean them up but defiantly don't alter, or replace anything. To me an original anything has more value than a restored one. Its my opinion that if you go replacing things then it begins to become a replica instead of the real thing. I vote to preserve them, don't restore them.

 

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 12:12 PM

Thanks for the bump Bob .... Super nice, Doc.

Great Score!

 

What was the bid to win this box of history on epay?


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Posted 21 December 2014 - 12:19 PM

Thanks for the bump Bob .... Super nice, Doc.
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What was the bid to win this box of history on epay?


If I remember correctly it was not cheap but rather expensive .
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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:06 AM

One of my boxes is just starting to look like that inside ..... :clapping:  :crazy:


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