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#1 dc-65x

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 10:56 PM

I’ve always wanted to build my own version of a Monogram Midget powered by a Pittman 196 ever since I read this Model Car & Racing magazine article:

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Rodney and I talked about building a pair of Midgets on the way home from Eddie’s Slot Car World the other day. We came up with some simple rules for our new 2-car “class”:

1. Pittman 196B motor, “and keep it stock Rick!”
2. Monogram brass chassis plate.
3. “Don’t put a big ugly guide like a Jet flag on it Rick!”
4. We will both run the same gear ratio and rear tires once we decide what works best.


I’m using the EJ’s Hobbies reproduction Midget kit for the body, driver and decals (if anyone wants a good deal on the rest of the kit, PM me):

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The motor is a new old stock Pittman 196B. These are great motors and come up on EBay quite frequently. I’ve been running mine on the power supply at 6 volts for several hours a night to break it in. It draws .7 amps and barely gets warm. It’s the closest thing to a “perpetual motion machine” man has yet devised:

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I’m using original Monogram wheels and trying Tiny Motors (among others) silicone reproduction Monogram Midget tires:

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I’ve also got some original Monogram jam nuts, spacers and a chassis pan I found on EBay. The spur gear is a pot metal MDC and the axles are unknown new old stock:

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Time to start a building!
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:19 AM

Hi Rick,

This looks like a fun project. Man, I don't have to tell you but those styrene builds sometimes take a lot longer to get into shape than the classic vacuum-formed Pro replicas.

PS: You haven't heard from me lately because I've been held hostage for the last couple of years by a bunch of styrene kit conversions including my latest muse... Renwall 1966 Virgil Exner Revival kits... Ouch! :to_take_umbrage:
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 06:48 AM

Rick,

I'm looking forward to this! It should be a whole lot of fun to watch and I'm sure the typical DC-65X awesome workmanship will shine through.

Once done, I'll bet the midgets will be a blast to race against one another!
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:12 AM

Rick,

What kind of zapper are you using to refresh the magnet? I remember an earlier article about good results zapping the magnet but I didn't see what what you're using.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:39 AM

Yes indeed, these are a blast from the past and very nicely done. Caution!! They're not styrene, they're all done in ABS plastic..

The EJ's kits might be hard to find. I believe they're sold out...
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:50 AM

What kind of zapper are you using to refresh the magnet? I remember an earlier article about good results zapping the magnet but I didn't see what what you're using.

Don,

I believe Rick bought a new Trik Trax zapper a year or two ago. :)

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:30 PM

Yes indeed, these are a blast from the past and very nicely done. Caution!! They're not styrene, they're all done in ABS plastic... the EJ's kits might be hard to find. I believe they're sold out.

ABS... :unsure: ... will the same model glue work, Marc?

I bought my kit from Ed at EJ's just a few weeks ago. He's still promoting them on his web site. Here's a link:

EJ's Hobbies

What kind of zapper are you using to refresh the magnet? I remember an earlier article about good results zapping the magnet but I didn't see what what you're using.

Here's my "Big Dog" Zapper, Don. It's old school and I love it. :wub:

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The magazine article said to just jam a piece of brass into the front of the motor and solder it to the frame :unsure: :blink:. It worked for them but I decided to do something a bit neater.

To mount the front of the motor to the chassis pan I notched the Pittman magnet retainer and soldered a piece of 1/4" wide K&S brass sheet to it.

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The Pittman side plates got the holes countersunk for flat head screws to clear the Midget body.

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The magazine's solution to mounting the rear of the motor to the pan was to bend the chassis "ears" to fit the wider Pittman motor. With the motor pushed a far rearward as it would go the wheelbase would be short of 3" (the wheelbase of the EJ's Midget chassis). I decided to cut notches in the Pittman axle carrier to fit the Monogram chassis. I also trimmed some extra metal to slide the motor more to the rear and drilled and tapped for 2-56 machine screws:

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The chassis ears got trimmed too (at an angle ;) ):

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Next I need to align all this junk while I screw it all together. :unsure:

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:36 PM

Rick,

On the glue part, no, you'll need to buy some ABS glue. Super Glue company makes it in a tube, it has a different make up. The standard styrene glue won't hold. And make sure you scrape through the chrome to get a good bond. Ya don't want any of them shiny parts flying off...

It's a super kit. Very nice quality. The decal sheet is also outstanding...

How do you like the instruction sheet???
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 03:13 PM

Hi Rick,

This looks like a fun project. Man, I don't have to tell you but those styrene builds sometimes take a lot longer to get into shape than the classic vacuum-formed Pro replicas.

PS: You haven't heard from me lately because I've been held hostage for the last couple of years by a bunch of styrene kit conversions including my latest muse... Renwall 1966 Virgil Exner Revival kits... Ouch! :to_take_umbrage:



Which Renwal kits are you building? I just built the Stutz and the windshield/ frame assemble was tricky.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 06:45 PM

My "Rick's Jig" to the rescue. With the Korrect jig wheels the motor can angle down against the chassis pan. The wheelbase is locked in at 3" and the motor is centered with pins. TIGHTEN THEM SCREWS!

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The rear motor attachment nested into the chassis "ears":

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The front motor mount.........

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........is screwed into a nut soldered to the bottom of the chassis pan:

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The magazine article has the chassis pan flat up against the bottom of the motor. Then they had to cut a hole in the pan for the armature to spin freely :blink: .

I set mine up like this:

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The chassis pan is parallel with the track surface and the motor is angled down until the front just touches the pan. No hole is cut in the pan for more weight down low.

Different strokes for different folks :)

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 07:29 PM

This eyecandy is like dark chocolate cherry cordails man!!! :wub:
It's not so much the construction, since that is a given... but it's the beautiful photography too! *sigh*

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 07:31 PM

It's not so much the construction, since that is a given... but it's the beautiful photography too! *sigh*

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 07:54 PM

NO....I just share pictures of my junk..... :unsure: NOT THAT JUNK! :laugh2: My slot car junk :D

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 08:05 PM


...not that there'd be anything wrong with that, but...

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 08:41 PM

Duffy is jealous, Duffy is jealous.... *repeat*

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:10 AM

Which Renwal kits are you building? I just built the Stutz and the windshield/ frame assemble was tricky.

Hi Gary. I'm cleaning up a Stutz slot car and have an unassembled Duesenberg which will get a scratchbuilt frame. OK...back to our regularly scheduled programming. :)
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Posted 23 February 2011 - 03:32 PM

I don't have the original Monogram drop arm so I made one up. It is 1/16" X 1/2" brass strip with a Dynamic pillow block screwed on for the guide. I had to cut a slot in the arm for the 1/16" hinge tube to fit into or the drop arm would have hung down too low. The guide is an original Monogram (I did not end up using the "hairy braid" shown). Here are the "pieces parts".......

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.......and assembled:

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Monogram wide rear wheels with Tiny Motors silicone repop Monogram tires and original Monogram Midget wheel inserts:

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The finished roller.....cute:

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Now to get the body mounted.........
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Posted 23 February 2011 - 03:41 PM

I love the look and "feel" of the chassis. Carry on! :D
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Posted 23 February 2011 - 03:48 PM

Yeah, that IS cute! And tight fitting to boot. So... who is going to paint it? NOT ME!
I suggest Chris Clark as he is the best in my book.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 04:01 PM

I knew I shouldn't have looked :laugh2:. Sometimes I stare at your work for a long time. Not lonely, just amazed. When I started reading ,first thing I said to myself is he needs a drop arm and I can send him one. Looks like you took care of that. These chassis bend up and down pretty easy and cutting a hole for the arm may be dangerous. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 04:08 PM

As always Rick beautiful work!

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 05:30 PM

I love the look and "feel" of the chassis. Carry on! :D


Thanks Bob, onward I go :)

………So... who is going to paint it? NOT ME!


You’re not :shok: . OK, I’ll paint it :laugh2: . Say, are you set up again to paint clear bodies? Hint, hint ;) !

…….These chassis bend up and down pretty easy and cutting a hole for the arm may be dangerous.


Tell me about it! Is there such a thing as “full soft brass” :blink: ? I swear I can bend it by starring hard at it :rolleyes: .

Hey, thanks Barney :D

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 10:32 PM

I've got the body mounted using it's one mounting post up front. I used the EJ's press in brass insert and screw along with a short 4-40 set screw:

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The set screw gets adjusted until the body mounting screw tightens against it and the body can still move around and "rattle" a little.

I soldered a washer on the frames body mounting slot to keep the body from sliding front to back:

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The rear of the body is held up by a .040" thick piece of plastic glued under the seat. It contacts the top of the motor:

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The body sits level with the track and nice and low:

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I've got glued and trued Monogram repop tires from Pauls Slot Car Shop (urethane), Tiny Motors (silicone) and good old 40 year old 30mm "Germans" ready to try out.

Time for a track day :)

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 07:50 PM

Looking good, Rick!!!!!!!! :)

I just ordered another midget from Ed, I put together one about 3 or 4 years ago but sold it at a swap meet. Gonna take my time and have fun with the new one when it gets in, not nearly as much scratchbuilding as yours but it will be a hoot!

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 09:56 PM

Thanks Mike. Glad to hear you got a "fidget for a Midget". I'd love to see your project!
Have fun ;) :)

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 06:27 PM

UPDATE on the Midget Racer:

Rodney brought out an original Monogram Midget to Eddie's for a comparo:

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We also tried three different tire types on the Midgets. On the car are silicones from Tiny Motors. In the center sitting on its packaging are 30MM "Germans" and in the foreground are Paul’s Slot Car Shop urethane Monogram repop's:

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All three tires were glued to the rims and trued on a Hudy tire truer. All three tires were nice and smooth with no bouncing. The fastest tires were Paul's urethane, followed by the 40 year old Germans and lastly the silicone Tiny's.

With Tiny's on the original Midget I could lap it with my Paul's shod car about every fifth lap. Of course the extra grunt from the Pittman helped too. The Pittman would only pull out a foot or two on the 13D on the long straight. But, it would jump ahead out of every corner and down the short straights.

Anywho, in our two man race series, we've decided to go with the slower and great looking Tiny Motors tires. We feel they require the most car control and are the most fun.

To be continued......

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 07:57 PM

Beautiful, Rick! :)

I got 2 EJ's kits that came in the mail Friday. Ed says he has about 15 left.

I've got parts to go along with this article, Midget chassis, 196B motor. Even got another 196B Motor and a 65 motor with the 6v arm. Bearings get 'spensive though!

Have to paint up my kits and get them assembled. I have to say I'm impressed with EJ's chassis. Back a few years ago when you got the kit it came with a crappy 1/8" post strombecker home set guideflag, and the chassis had the 1/8" hole for it. You had to drill it to 3/16 to fit a modern guide flag. There were other solutions, Professor motor carried.......(opens up another tab)....(wow PM website sure has changed!)...yes they still carry 1/8" guide flags, but anyhoo, I run MY JUNK (hahaha!) on commercial wood tracks so I tune them best I can for that.

Where the heck am I going with this. Oh yeah, well, Ed's chassis now comes with a 3/16 hole and the kit comes with a modern flag. One more thing not to worry about.

The only concern I have right now is trying to fit rear gearing in the back of this 196B. I had some tradeship bevel gears but I got solder all over them with my tremmors. That MDC crown looks great...I've got another tab open with patto's place on the screen as I recall he carries some bevelled gears. I might order them to use or just to have...

Anyway looking GREAT, Rick, thanks for the inspiration! I'll post my project somewhere on here.

Thanks,

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 10:22 PM

Hi Mikey,

Glad you got the Midget bug too. Yikes, EJ's has only 15 kits left. Sounds like if anybody wants one they better act fast.

The stock 196B's really work great in the Midget. I'm thinking the heft of that motor down low helps the top heavy Midget's handling too.

If you can't find some gears that will work I have some extra 4:1 bevels I can send you, just let me know.

I install my pinions on the old motors with Red Loctite. Just pull some fine samdpaper along the armature shaft lengthwise to scuff it up, clean with acetone and apply the Loctite.

Can't wait to see your project!

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 10:32 PM

I never really had much interest in these midgets. Until now........ :) :good:
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:00 AM

Great looking car.:) :)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 11:46 AM

Thanks Rodney and welcome to Slotblog :) .

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 02:57 PM

Hey Rick! Did some work on one of the Midgets today. I'll start a post in the C.A.R.S. forum for it, The MDIV Memoirs #001! :)

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 09:17 AM

Rodney sent me some pictures of his Oakland Speedway Collection Midgets built back in the 60’s……

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…..and his just finished Pittman powered car built from the Oakland Speedway “Box-O-Parts”:

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It’s Ford flathead powered which is really cool:

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As you can see he had to cut a hole in the pan to clear the armature even though he angled his motor. I think this is a classic case of “tolerance stack up”. All my tolerances in the setup went the right way and my armature JUST BARELY clears.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:24 PM

WOW . . . really cool stuff !
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 01:08 PM

Love these old midget racers. Very nice work! I have one that still works, the only surviving slot car from the days of my adolescent zeal!


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 12:46 PM

They are cool Jim. Mine is still stuck in the "ready for paint" condition:  :blush:
 

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 09:41 PM

Hello Midget slot car fans  :)  Like you I'm a fan of these terrific looking cars that remind me so much of my childhood days.

I'm gradually getting together a bunch of Offys, it's taking a  bit of time but with the help of my friends I'll get there. :crazy:

I already have an oval up and running :good: , a 12' x 4' oval and the grass infield is going down shortly.

 

I help run "Speedway Slot Cars"  on Facebook  and yesterday we clocked up  our 800th member.  :sarcastic_hand:

 

See you at the races :victory:

 

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 09:47 PM

Hi Steve,

 

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for sharing you cool cars and track with us. :good:

 

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 11:11 PM

Hi Steve, & welcome to Slotblog. Those are neat looking cars you show. What chassis & motors do you use for running the midgets on your oval? :)


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 12:55 AM

Hi Steve, & welcome to Slotblog. Those are neat looking cars you show. What chassis & motors do you use for running the midgets on your oval? :)

Thank you  :) My 1/24th Midgets run chassis that are Monogram (c.1966), but I've also got 'Sprints Plus' chassis which are modern and just as good; except that you have to make the various crash/nerf bars from copper or brass wire (see photos). Some are the old 'Atlas' F1 1/32 which I occasionally pick up from ebay.

A couple are from http://ejshobbies.com/ but he has not made Midgets for years. I keep an eye out on ebay for them too.]

 

Modern motors -  the Cheetah is a favorite, not only for vintage Midgets but also modern ones.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 01:20 AM

See 4 Midget-related 1/24 slot photos:

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 06:11 PM

Fellow midgeteers :) For my racing Midgets I'm using vintage Atlas motors.

I have six AT-208 and one AT-206 at the moment and am considering trying ball bearings on the rear axle.

Will ball bearings make much difference and can I find/use a generic bearing (size please) ?

See you at the races  :victory:

 Thank you, regards, Steve

 

ps: Midgets also on Facebook: "Speedway Slot Cars: Midgets & Sprintcars"

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:19 PM

Hi Steve,

 

I only have a couple of Atlas motors but mine have an axle bearing hole of .219". The standard size for easily available ball bearings for 1/8" axles is .250". You'd have to open up the hole in the motor or make an adapter for the smaller Atlas hole.

 

I use ball bearings whenever I can but I doubt you could really measure a difference in lap times between them and properly aligned oilite bearings...IMHO.

 

I really need to paint and finish my midget! :dash2:


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 02:27 PM

Thanks for the tip Rick. And you have at least one enthusiast eagering awaiting your midget project!  :)

  Steve


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