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Posted 28 February 2011 - 06:27 PM

UPDATE on the Midget Racer:

Rodney brought out an original Monogram Midget to Eddie's for a comparo:

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We also tried three different tire types on the Midgets. On the car are silicones from Tiny Motors. In the center sitting on its packaging are 30MM "Germans" and in the foreground are Paul’s Slot Car Shop urethane Monogram repop's:

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All three tires were glued to the rims and trued on a Hudy tire truer. All three tires were nice and smooth with no bouncing. The fastest tires were Paul's urethane, followed by the 40 year old Germans and lastly the silicone Tiny's.

With Tiny's on the original Midget I could lap it with my Paul's shod car about every fifth lap. Of course the extra grunt from the Pittman helped too. The Pittman would only pull out a foot or two on the 13D on the long straight. But, it would jump ahead out of every corner and down the short straights.

Anywho, in our two man race series, we've decided to go with the slower and great looking Tiny Motors tires. We feel they require the most car control and are the most fun.

To be continued......

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 07:57 PM

Beautiful, Rick! :)

I got 2 EJ's kits that came in the mail Friday. Ed says he has about 15 left.

I've got parts to go along with this article, Midget chassis, 196B motor. Even got another 196B Motor and a 65 motor with the 6v arm. Bearings get 'spensive though!

Have to paint up my kits and get them assembled. I have to say I'm impressed with EJ's chassis. Back a few years ago when you got the kit it came with a crappy 1/8" post strombecker home set guideflag, and the chassis had the 1/8" hole for it. You had to drill it to 3/16 to fit a modern guide flag. There were other solutions, Professor motor carried.......(opens up another tab)....(wow PM website sure has changed!)...yes they still carry 1/8" guide flags, but anyhoo, I run MY JUNK (hahaha!) on commercial wood tracks so I tune them best I can for that.

Where the heck am I going with this. Oh yeah, well, Ed's chassis now comes with a 3/16 hole and the kit comes with a modern flag. One more thing not to worry about.

The only concern I have right now is trying to fit rear gearing in the back of this 196B. I had some tradeship bevel gears but I got solder all over them with my tremmors. That MDC crown looks great...I've got another tab open with patto's place on the screen as I recall he carries some bevelled gears. I might order them to use or just to have...

Anyway looking GREAT, Rick, thanks for the inspiration! I'll post my project somewhere on here.

Thanks,

Mikey

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 10:22 PM

Hi Mikey,

Glad you got the Midget bug too. Yikes, EJ's has only 15 kits left. Sounds like if anybody wants one they better act fast.

The stock 196B's really work great in the Midget. I'm thinking the heft of that motor down low helps the top heavy Midget's handling too.

If you can't find some gears that will work I have some extra 4:1 bevels I can send you, just let me know.

I install my pinions on the old motors with Red Loctite. Just pull some fine samdpaper along the armature shaft lengthwise to scuff it up, clean with acetone and apply the Loctite.

Can't wait to see your project!

Rick

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 10:32 PM

I never really had much interest in these midgets. Until now........ :) :good:
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:00 AM

Great looking car.:) :)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 11:46 AM

Thanks Rodney and welcome to Slotblog :) .

Rick

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 02:57 PM

Hey Rick! Did some work on one of the Midgets today. I'll start a post in the C.A.R.S. forum for it, The MDIV Memoirs #001! :)

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 09:17 AM

Rodney sent me some pictures of his Oakland Speedway Collection Midgets built back in the 60’s……

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…..and his just finished Pittman powered car built from the Oakland Speedway “Box-O-Parts”:

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It’s Ford flathead powered which is really cool:

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As you can see he had to cut a hole in the pan to clear the armature even though he angled his motor. I think this is a classic case of “tolerance stack up”. All my tolerances in the setup went the right way and my armature JUST BARELY clears.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:24 PM

WOW . . . really cool stuff !
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Posted 15 January 2015 - 01:08 PM

Love these old midget racers. Very nice work! I have one that still works, the only surviving slot car from the days of my adolescent zeal!


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 12:46 PM

They are cool Jim. Mine is still stuck in the "ready for paint" condition:  :blush:
 

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 09:41 PM

Hello Midget slot car fans  :)  Like you I'm a fan of these terrific looking cars that remind me so much of my childhood days.

I'm gradually getting together a bunch of Offys, it's taking a  bit of time but with the help of my friends I'll get there. :crazy:

I already have an oval up and running :good: , a 12' x 4' oval and the grass infield is going down shortly.

 

I help run "Speedway Slot Cars"  on Facebook  and yesterday we clocked up  our 800th member.  :sarcastic_hand:

 

See you at the races :victory:

 

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 09:47 PM

Hi Steve,

 

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for sharing you cool cars and track with us. :good:

 

Rick


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 11:11 PM

Hi Steve, & welcome to Slotblog. Those are neat looking cars you show. What chassis & motors do you use for running the midgets on your oval? :)


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 12:55 AM

Hi Steve, & welcome to Slotblog. Those are neat looking cars you show. What chassis & motors do you use for running the midgets on your oval? :)

Thank you  :) My 1/24th Midgets run chassis that are Monogram (c.1966), but I've also got 'Sprints Plus' chassis which are modern and just as good; except that you have to make the various crash/nerf bars from copper or brass wire (see photos). Some are the old 'Atlas' F1 1/32 which I occasionally pick up from ebay.

A couple are from http://ejshobbies.com/ but he has not made Midgets for years. I keep an eye out on ebay for them too.]

 

Modern motors -  the Cheetah is a favorite, not only for vintage Midgets but also modern ones.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 01:20 AM

See 4 Midget-related 1/24 slot photos:

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 06:11 PM

Fellow midgeteers :) For my racing Midgets I'm using vintage Atlas motors.

I have six AT-208 and one AT-206 at the moment and am considering trying ball bearings on the rear axle.

Will ball bearings make much difference and can I find/use a generic bearing (size please) ?

See you at the races  :victory:

 Thank you, regards, Steve

 

ps: Midgets also on Facebook: "Speedway Slot Cars: Midgets & Sprintcars"

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:19 PM

Hi Steve,

 

I only have a couple of Atlas motors but mine have an axle bearing hole of .219". The standard size for easily available ball bearings for 1/8" axles is .250". You'd have to open up the hole in the motor or make an adapter for the smaller Atlas hole.

 

I use ball bearings whenever I can but I doubt you could really measure a difference in lap times between them and properly aligned oilite bearings...IMHO.

 

I really need to paint and finish my midget! :dash2:


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 02:27 PM

Thanks for the tip Rick. And you have at least one enthusiast eagering awaiting your midget project!  :)

  Steve


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