I am unable to find the photo I saw where someone took the lead wire, did a figure 8 loop or something like that around the front axle then went to the guide.
Guess what I am asking is what is the best way to put the lead wires in that (1) they don't stop the guide from turning and (2)] help the guide stay straight.
Thanks!
Lead wire loop
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:24 PM
Look at any of the retro race reports, there are pictures. Everyone does it different and on some chassis one way works better than another. All you want is for the guide to turn freely yet snap back to the center. What ever way of routing the wires to achieve this is the right way for that chassis.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:25 PM
I got some pics somewhere on OWH.
I'll dig them up after the birthday party I'm having.
I'll dig them up after the birthday party I'm having.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:28 PM
Happy birthday, Mike, how old are you today... 65?
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:36 PM
I am unable to find the photo I saw where someone took the lead wire, did a figure 8 loop or something like that around the front axle then went to the guide.
Guess what I am asking is what is the best way to put the lead wires in that (a) they don't stop the guide from turning and (help the guide stay straight.
Thanks!
Here's how two old pros do it, John Cukras and Bryan Warmack.
John Cukras. Lead wires around the front axle uprights.
Bryan Warmack. Lead wires in a loop separate from front axle uprights.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:52 PM
Here's how two old pros do it, John Cukras and Bryan Warmack.
Bingo! Thanks!
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:59 PM
Happy birthday, Mike, how old are you today... 65?
Actually 66.6 yrs. old. LOL.
This works well on a Cheetah 11 or any other car that has a lead wire loop.
Back when I was wing racing, I had no idea you could run them almost straight forward, have full rotation, and not kink.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:15 PM
Where does one get those copper/brass tabs that slide in so you don't have to solder to the brush?
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:00 PM
Click on the link below and scroll down to see the items you are talking about. They may well be available at your local track.
braid clips
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 12:36 AM
Where does one get those copper/brass tabs that slide in so you don't have to solder to the brush?
Here's another method which uses your old braid.
We all have old, used braid which can be used with your guide flag to hold your braid as well as attach (solder) your lead wires.
Cut off the braid from the brass holder.
Solder your lead wires to the brass part.
Here's the completed braid holder.
This is a good way to recycle your used braid. An added benefit (besides being free) is that your braid will never come loose from the guide flag from a hard crash during a race. I've seen cars (especially wing cars) lose their braid after a violent car crash or wall blast when using the thinner braid holder.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 01:13 AM
Keith,
Is the dimple up or down?
Is the dimple up or down?
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 01:28 AM
Is the dimple up or down?
Zippity, I use the flat side to solder the lead wires. The dimple side holds the braid firmly in place.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 03:13 AM
You can soak the old braid with rosin flux and it makes good solder wick for chassis building, just be sure to hold it with a solder and heatproof tool.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 07:47 AM
I also use the worn braid as a solder wick...
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 07:57 PM
You can soak the old braid with rosin flux and it makes good solder wick for chassis building, just be sure to hold it with a solder and heat proof tool.
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