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[Mopar Rob]

At the R4 I bent up my F1 and left it in the condition of needing a total rebuild or replacement. When Rick came out with the his two latest F1 kits I decided it would be easier to just build a new car. These kits gave me an excuse to build 2.



The replacement for my bent up Samson style F1 will be another Samson style F1 using Rick's DSF1 kit



I'm also going to build a Victory 2.3 kit with the axle attached to the pans arangement popular with Tony P, Marty Stanley and others. I've never built or tried one so it's about time.

In yesterdays mail I received my modified Victory parts from my friend Bill. I'll post a photo of them later.

[Mopar Rob]

With all the parts cut apart

[68Caddy]

Rob I sure will watch this one, because I need to learn how to!




Nesta

[Mopar Rob]

Rob I sure will watch this one, because I need to learn how to!




Nesta

You've built a couple of chassis now. Just keep doing it. Actually the Victory kit builds center will be the same as my D3 spec chassis, just with wider pans to take advantage of the IRRA's 1.625" width rule

[Mopar Rob]

Not much progress tonight. Instead of working on the F1's I tore my workshop apart. I wanted to look at how I did something on one of my Can-Am chassis and couldn't find it. Maybe I'll move some file cabinets and other bigger stuff in my shop tomorrow with the hope that it was knocked off and fell behind. If not it's probably long gone I guess I have too many cars if I don't know right away something is missing


Anyway back to the build



Rick's bracket is designed not to use an axle tube, but I enlarged the holes so I could use an axle tube. I'm trying to pay homage to Dennis's orginal design.

[68Caddy]

Respect is a good thing Rob, at least I think so.
Looking forward to see the rest of the build.




Nesta

[Mopar Rob]

I worked on it last night a little more after I posted the photo.

True to Dennis's build I went with an inner rail of piano wire with two outside rails of Brazing rod.




I used Rick's Hoo-Doo's, Hicky-Doo's or whatever they're called? Doesn't really matter since they really simplified the front end construction and looks to be pretty robust. I believe since they're sandwiched between rails it's IRRA legal?



I still need to add some paino wire bracing to the rear axle tube, other than that the center section is just about done.

[Rick]

Looking good Rob. Yes, that sandwiching in the gadgets(as you have done) was giving the blessing of the tech Nooster.

[Pablo]

[Mopar Rob]

Hi Pablo Long time no see, I should give you a call. How's your Mini Brute build going?


Anyway son had a Swim Meet tonight. Going down to my work bench for maybe an hour now.

[Mopar Rob]

Since I forgot to give the motor bracket for my Victory build to my buddy Bill for modification I did it old school scratch building style with my Dremel and a file.


I removed .062" from the bottom of the motor bracket becuse it's going to be sitting and soldered on top of the rails. Not the prettiest of my work, but sufficient once hidden by the solder.






The center section will be very similar to my D3 spec Samson copy with the rails running close to the motor


Photo by Keith Tanaka

[68Caddy]

Rob to me it looks way Sano, and the ride that Mr.B ran was a great F1 way good.
Thanks I'm learning from your build my friend and I know that you don't mind.



Nesta

[Pablo]

Hi Rob,
You know I love to watch building
Thanks for asking about the Mura motor....I installed Deathstar mags with .520 airgap to accept a "normal" arm.......then sent to Fast Ones for zap/comm cut/balance.......I have high hopes for it......

Thanks for showing us the builds

[Mopar Rob]

Put the center section together on the Victory build so I can get the dimensions for the center rattler..





As with the D3 build the motor fits nice and snug between the rails



A preview with the pans attached

[Mopar Rob]

This afternoon I had lunch my my friend Bill's house so I decided to pick the shaker pieces for the F1 builds. If my math is correct there should be an 1/8" gap on each side of the shaker piece with a FK motor installed.

[68Caddy]

Hi Rob love what I'm seeing, sure will make a great ride. Glad that you are not wasting your time on the Tube.
I been busy painting a body myself to give this old Mike Stube chassis a new look.
Sadly it looks Jamaican. No TV here only some good old songs, only messing around with slot cars.





I hope you don't mind me posting this? The motor choice was mine years back and it still runs great.
Waiting for more of your build, and the body painting coming up.


Nesta

[Bill from NH]

Nice body Nesta! Looks just like the Jamacian bobsled did.

[68Caddy]

Thanks Bill, I just hope that Mikey likes it as well!
Back to my friend Rob.



Nesta

[Mopar Rob]

Waiting for more of your build, and the body painting coming up.

Now I have to paint a body and post that too That's OK, Oscar asked me to paint him a body. Maybe I'll post photos of that one when it's finished

Thanks Bill, I just hope that Mikey likes it as well!

Who's Mikey?


BTW:

The Stuebe ride is COOL, but I think it might be a tad too heavy for the king?

[68Caddy]

Rob you are way funny and you know this is a old ride of his. It doesn't have any piano wire on the body and look at the motor bracket its old as dirt.
Show them the ride that you painted for Oscar.


Nesta

[Mopar Rob]

Show them the ride that you painted for Oscar.

The one I painted for the car I loaned Oscar for the Westen States wasn't deemed legal by D3 ( Parma Lola T163 ). Oscar asked if I'd paint him a D3 legal body. I still need to do that.

[68Caddy]

That's my bud Oscar but you missed the cane. Lets get back to your F1 build because I sure would like to build one before I'm toast.



Nesta

[Mopar Rob]

That's my bud Oscar but you missed the cane. Lets get back to your F1 build because I sure would like to build one before I'm toast.

I'll add the cane to the next one.

[Mopar Rob]

I added the extra bracing to the rear axle tube



Then I used my R-Geo jig to solder pin tubes to the shaker piece. Unfortunately I didn't take a photo of it. I will when I do the one for my other F1 I'm building

[Mopar Rob]

Since the R-Geo DSF1 pans are made out of .050" brass and the rails are .064" I needed a spacer to fill the gap. My friend Bill suggested that I cut pieces from some 1/2" .015" K&S strip. Seemed like a good idea so that was what I did