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Posted 16 September 2010 - 01:20 PM

By the way I would not put prep sol in a all rubber tnmbler the chemicals my distort the rubber drum. But the stuff sure works good no pits and very shinny. Picture to come later.. Jerry :)
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:47 AM

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 10:10 PM

Prep Sol or Napta with media !! :)
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 05:59 PM

Do you think the naptha would work with the rubber drums?
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 07:44 PM

Do you think the naptha would work with the rubber drums?

Yes but it may distort it some I put a air valve in the lid and put a little air in drum . Give it a try cleans great and don't pit the wire!! Jerry :)
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 10:13 PM

I am tumbling as we type. Oxyclean, Lil bit of tide, ceramic stones, and agua...
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 10:34 PM

I am tumbling as we type. Oxyclean, Lil bit of tide, ceramic stones, and agua...

What happened to the naptha ? :scratch_one-s_head: I will never use water again pit the wire !! :sarcastic_hand: Jerry
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Posted 12 March 2011 - 01:02 AM

I just got it tonight!! I gotta take my time...
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Posted 12 March 2011 - 01:40 AM

Just pulled my first chassis out after about three hours in the mix. I love it! Threw it in the oven on low broil for about a minute, sprayed some wd 40 on it, and then I'm outta town for a few days. So I'm interested to see if it start to corrode.

So easy, I love it. Should have done this a long time ago. Now I gotta get some polishing media for spring steel. Any suggestions?
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Posted 14 November 2011 - 11:44 PM

I have a Thumler Tumbler Model A-R12 and I just purchased the 6 lbs. Buffalo Arms Ceramic Media and Solution. The tumbler has a 12 lbs. capacity. How much (levels) of the media, solution, and water (if any) to I use to polish brass chassis? Should I polish more than one chassis at a time? Thanks.
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 12:34 AM

Put in ALL the media. Use 1 capful liquid solution. Fill with distilled water one inch over the top of the media.
One chassis at a time. I usually run mine about 8 hours. Rinse the dirty media when finished....stick a hose in the bottom and run until water turns clear.......I use new water and solution every time.
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 06:53 AM

Thanks.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:49 AM

Do my eyes deceive me, or did I see Steube put a chassis with front tires installed, into a tumbler ?


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:51 AM

Probably... I've done that a few times, and it works great.

It saves unsoldering the wheel retatiners.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:21 AM

I do it all the time even with the rear ball bearings in. No problems..
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:19 AM

Matbe I missed it, but, you should check out the "sonic" cleaners from MidwayUSA.com, Cabela's or Midsouthshooterssupply.com.

Prices range between $90-$170. Takes about 20 minutes to brightly polish dirty pistol/rifle brass. Slick as a whistle. About the same for a chassis.Check 'em out.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:33 AM

picked up a like new model B the other day for $60...cant wait to try it...  I think I'll try the ceramic Rick mentions


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

Has anyone tried this media yet in a rotary tumbler:

 

Stainless Steel Media

 

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 10:24 AM

Don't use that you will scratch the brass. This is for taking rust off bolts and things. My friends auto shop uses this when cleaning parts they can't find on classics.
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 10:42 AM

Hi Paul,

 

I'm going to try the stuff for cleaning brass cartridge cases. I'll through a chassis in to see what happens.

 

Here is what Buffalo Arms that sells the stuff says about it for cleaning and polishing brass cases:

 

"In fact after three to four hours your cases will shine like you haven't seen since they were new! This media will last for years and years of heavy use.  SHOULD BE USED IN OUR THUMLERS LINE OF NON-VIBRATING TUMBLERS. USE OF THIS PRODUCT IN OTHER TUMBLERS MAY CAUSE FAILURE!"


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

I have used Buffalo Arm stainless media in a Thumblers AR12 to clean up spring steel chassis....GT12, etc. Works fine but does not give the same jewlery polish that the ceramic media does for brass. I have two barrels, one for ceramic media, one for stainless so I can easily change them out depending on the chassis.

 

You won't be disappointed in the BA ceramic media and their liquid cleaner for brass!


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 11:35 AM

I do it all the time even with the rear ball bearings in. No problems..

 

I have done it with complete chassis, lead wires and motors included and it has never done any damage to them. I use the standard ceramic pellets.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:19 PM

I have used Buffalo Arm stainless media in a Thumblers AR12 to clean up spring steel chassis....GT12, etc. Works fine but does not give the same jewlery polish that the ceramic media does for brass. I have two barrels, one for ceramic media, one for stainless so I can easily change them out depending on the chassis.

 

You won't be disappointed in the BA ceramic media and their liquid cleaner for brass!

 

Well, that is that. Thanks Mike. I'll follow your advise, thanks again!

 

 

 

I have done it with complete chassis, lead wires and motors included and it has never done any damage to them. I use the standard ceramic pellets.

 

Wow, I do chassis with ball bearings but I've never tried a complete chassis with motor etc. I've got a good candidate to give it a try:

 

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:27 PM

Rick, nice late-1968 car.

You will be amazed, nothing will be damaged... the car will need a proper rinse in mineral spirits solvent and drying procedure with compressed air after the tumbling, If the car is that original, I would not even remove the motor because this way, it remains original. I cannot remember if I kept the rear tires on the car, but i would give it a try. I know that tumbling does zero damage to the fronts.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:37 PM

Thanks Philippe,

 

This car looks quite "korrect" and SteveO and I want to duplicate it. There have been period constructions articles on this type of car (I think TonyP did one if memory serves) but there's nothing like having an actual car in you hands.

 

Tumbling all the Crap-O-La off will help to see the construction details.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:46 PM

Rick,

Once done, please let us know how it went... :)

This is a very nice car, well built. Too bad we don't know by whom, but it is a definitely not an amateur job.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:03 PM

Will do Phillippe.

 

SteveO has studied the pictures and feels it is Pro built as well. He also has an idea of who built it.

 

There is a repair to the pan stop rod (is that called a "bite bar"?). It has been resoldered at the lower joint in the photo and is now crooked.

 

The motor and it's associated braces could also be "customer installed". But all in all it's a cool piece of slot car history.


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Posted 16 July 2013 - 03:27 PM

Not being a "modern" racer, I've never really figured out what a "bite bar" is or why it's called that.  Perhaps it has something to do with being removeable/replaceable and having some affect on traction?

 

Anyway, I just call it a "pan hanger".  This one looks to be integral with the drop arm hinge pin.  Nice simple, clean setup if minimal pan movement is not an issue.

 

Yes, TonyP did a very nice article about this type of chassis, it's in the October1968 issue of CM.  Starts on page 46...



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 03:45 PM

Rick,

 

Stainless pins will work just fine.  Steel is heavy media, I hope you have something that with turn the media properly so it works.  A mixture of pins and cones would be the ideal media.  The pins get in the tight spots where the cones cannot.

 

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 03:49 PM

I've got the Thumblers unit that Buffalo Arms recommends be used with the steel media. I guess I'll still give it a try :)

 

 


Yes, TonyP did a very nice article about this type of chassis, it's in the October1968 issue of CM.  Starts on page 46...

 

Hmmmmm.......very interesting similarities.


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Posted 16 July 2013 - 06:32 PM

:D  Ain't there?

 

If that's not actually a TonyP chassis, it's a spanking good copy.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 10:48 AM

Has anyone tried this media yet in a rotary tumbler:

 

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Yes Rick. In order to fill the drum to cover the chassis you would need about 12 pounds of the SS media. I ordered 5 pounds to begin with and reordered more. As stated above, I have it in a separate drum, as the steel debris and liquid is a bit different from the brass. Brass seems to be cleaner. I'm using the ceramic for the brass retro chassis and steel for spring steel chassis. The ceramic will also polish the steel chassis, but will not remove residue and rust like the steel media.

 

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:16 PM

Really love the idea of tumbling the chassis etc , may just have to get one further down the line, certainly does a great job of shining everything up :D

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 03:23 AM

Last year my dear old mother passed away and left me a small inheritance. My sister suggested that I buy myself something to remember her by. After reading Rick and Pablo's forums for the last year or so, my heart desired nothing more than a tumbler. So I frittered away my inheritance (well, a couple of hundred bucks anyway) on a tumbler.

It shipped today, and when commissioned it shall be known as "The Eleanor Tyler Memorial Tumbler".

For the rest of my life I am going to be making shiny stuff, (yes, I restore old slot cars too) and every single piece will give a little extra memory to my dear departed old mother. Those memories will have inspiration from Pablo and Rick;)

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:52 AM

 

For the rest of my life I am going to be making shiny stuff, (yes, I restore old slot cars too) and every single piece will give a little extra memory to my dear departed old mother. Those memories will have inspiration from Pablo and Rick;)

 

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 11:14 PM

"The Eleanor Tyler Memorial Tumbler" arrived today, and was commissioned within 5 minutes. The first lucky item (a brass and piano wire chassis built in 1977) is in there. I imagine that I will have this thing running continuously for some weeks as I find more stuff to polish. So thanks once again Rick, for your inspiration.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 12:08 PM

Hi Tim,

 

Are you using distilled water or just local tap water?


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 04:45 PM

I am using tap water and a small amount of front-loading washing powder.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:15 PM

The city water where I used to live in CA would eat steel chassis alive! Pablo uses his Mississippi city water and it works perfectly. If your water is working for you that's great. I'm gun shy so I've never tried the city water here is Western Oregon where I live now. I only use distilled water and so far, so good.


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Posted 26 February 2014 - 01:47 AM

Thanks for the heads-up, Rick. I have been cleaning my chassis in tap water and dish-washing liquid for a few years now, with no issues. So I am assuming that means the tap water here is relatively benign. If it starts to become an issue, I may have to try the distilled water. In the meantime, I now have some superbly shiny items of slot car componentry. Joy!

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 06:28 AM

Tim dont tumble your alloy chassis.


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I can't imagine why not.... Oh, yes I can! Thanks Lindsay!

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 09:12 AM

Thanks for all the class on tumbler and media to use. !!



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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:21 AM

If you have problems with corrosion, remember that the pH balance of all tap water is not the same. My previous locations water caused horrible problems with pitting and corrosion of steel. The simple substitution of a $1 gallon jug of distilled water solved my problem.


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