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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:54 PM

I see online that there is a new line of 1/24 slot car kits to be released by AMT named Slotstars. Model kit bodies with an adjustable chassis. a

Anyone out there have a chance to preview these? Anyone out there know who designed the new chassis?

These look interesting, plan to buy into the line to check them out.
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Posted 16 September 2011 - 02:14 AM

I believe Round2 (AMT) was showing prototypes of the slot cars at the 2010 iHobby show.

Not sure who the chassis was designed by.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 06:55 AM

You can get some details at this LINK.

Those kits look nice and those bodies would be good for D3 Hardbody racing.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 07:52 AM

Great to see such a big player interested in slot racing.

I'm curious what is driving the release of these new kits? Home racing? Club racing? A resurgence in commercial raceways? It seems as though all the activity was in 1/32 scale and now these 1/24 scale kits come along.

Very interesting. What do they know that we have missed or don't know? Just curious. Any activity in slot racing is good activity as far as I'm concerned.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 08:07 AM

For me, the most interesting point was the quote below, located at the link Haruki posted:

It’s the basis of a fantastic new Retro Deluxe™ slot car program, featuring the irresitible vintage AMT Slot Stars™ packaging style from the 1960s.


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Posted 16 September 2011 - 11:12 AM

:D Now THAT'S Retro!!!

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:39 PM

This seems like a rational development growing out of the growing interest in 1/24 (or in AMT's case, 1/25) scale model slot car racing. At the moment, the top of the line is represented by companies like Do-Slot, Scholer, and other representatives of the IMCA/OEPS set. Then you have the far more adjustable Plafit, BRM, and ScaleAuto cars that are still competition bound. The only entry level representation, however, is from Carrera (despite AutoArt's experiment a few years ago).

Provided AMT offers a workable chassis and usable axles, (I'm not terribly concerned about wheels and tires as I'm certain that either Daytona Stockers or H&R's would make for good replacements) then we may very well have an entertaining slot car coming our way.
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 08:33 AM

Not sure who the chassis was designed by.


Interestingly, exactly the same chassis and mechanics is used not only under the 1/25 cars,
but also in the 1/32 line of cars, the 1966 Batmobile and the Green Hornet's Black Beauty.

Apparently, size doesn't matter in this case...

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 07:14 AM

Sure would be nice if they offered some FoMoCo and Mopar stuff.
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Posted 14 October 2011 - 07:36 AM

Is anyone selling them? I sure would like to get my hands on all of them!!
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Posted 14 October 2011 - 07:44 AM

AMT's website states a December 2011 release date.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:39 PM

I will expect some hands-on this weekend at the iHobby Show in Chicago...

I will ask them to sell a 'chassis only' kit so that any model could be made.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 06:01 AM

Hi,

Has anyone seen these kits with the bodies moulded in color as illustrated? I ordered from a seller who posted the same photos illustrated in this thread but received kits with white bodies. Did they actually issued the colored ones?

Thanks,

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:09 AM

My '66 Nova showed up yesterday and the quality seems to be very good! It's no race car like my Cheetah 11 chassised LMP1, or my group F car, but it's what I wanted. A good metal adjustable chassis and it seems like you can pick up just about any 1/24/1/25 scale plastic car model and use the body and possibly the interior to your liking.

I'll take build pics as I go, if ya'll want.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:56 AM

What about a Retro series for these AMT kits. Run them stock outta the box, no mods, even run with the tires that come with them. Is AMT going to sell replacement parts so they could be a club or once-a-month type racer??

These kits would return us to actual old tyme racing?? I'm sure they would be a bear to run but that would be something of a major chalenge...

What are everyone's thoughts here on the concept... I feel speed is not the only thing in racing.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:31 AM

I wish I wouldnt of bought the car now. Setting up the gear mesh is a little more than I bargained for, pressing the wheels on, pfft! Think Ill modify one of my Parma chassis's to use the body.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 11:32 AM

gary can the wheels ,bushings,gears and axles be up graded to current 1/8 or 3/32
stuff ?? so far it sounds like keep the body and use a fcr chassis . oh well
i guess they thought do the kit cheap like in the 60" lol.and mass market them to
a group that doesen't realy exist.

if that is the case sounds the kits are way out dated and of poor design
not much more than a carrera 1/24 so there toys. for home entertainment.one would be better off just buying a model kit
to get the body..
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 11:56 AM

Yes, I think you can upgrade the rear axle to 1/8" or 3/32", solder in some oilite bushings, use a regular spur gear and wheels if you have a lot of extra parts laying around. The overall quality is nice, but for what it costs to pick up a Parma, or even a JK chassis, Hawk 7 or Falcon motor, I think that would make for a much lighter base to start with. I'm thinking of removing the side pans on one of my Parma chassis's in order to narrow it enough to acomodate plastic model car bodies buy soldering some sort of brass/whatever angular bracket's on the sides and using double sided tape.

No disrespect to AMT as is it's a nice kit and when I saw it, I had to have one! But for $50, I expected more. The chassis is heavy, the spur gear runs out of true, knurled axels, please! The wheels are near impossible to get on straight, the guide...

And Phillips head screws? I guess I need a metric Phillips head screwdriver. :wacko2:
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:12 PM

from what your saying why would a compay revert to sub standard parts it's 2012 good god press on gears and press on knobs for wheels ?? as a manufactor it would have proberly cost less than a dollar to have modern gears and wheels. you have to wonder who did the research on these kits .
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:02 PM

What did I say about krapkars in the other thread and some are giving me grief? :)
Nice boxes and nice presentation, good use of old body molds, krummy chassis designed by 3-star ignorant morons.
What else is new under the sun? ^_^

As far as push-on gears and push-on wheels, it can be done very well with incredible precision on straight axles, at no more cost. Ask me how if you care.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:42 PM

What did I say about krapkars in the other thread and some are giving me grief? :)
Nice boxes and nice presentation, good use of old body molds, krummy chassis designed by 3-star ignorant morons.
What else is new under the sun? ^_^


Nothing...

Sounds like my comments about the Cox cars from the 60s... LOL

Junk, but 45 years after the fact makes them desirable.

Go figure...

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:50 PM

Larry,
A very unfair comment in my opinion. The Cox cars were FAR from being junk. Their construction was utilizing the best materials that could be found in the day, their precision of assembly unequaled by any other manufacturer then. The wheels were precision machined from real magnesium, the axles made of stainless steel with precise conical fitting to the wheel. The bodies were beautifully molded with nice detailing. When new, the tires were quite good as long as used on tracks not already ruined by Moo or other traction enhancing goopy stuff.

What was wrong with them? Not much in the day, except that they were designed for a world respecting exacting scale, and arrived in a world when thingies already reigned. So their performance was obsolete as they arrived on the scene. You had to drive them, and if you did so, they ran very well and lasted forever.
So it is a bit unfair to compare them with what was TRUE junk such as were some cars built by other companies that had little respect for their customers and were strictly there to make a fast buck.

Why are they so collectible today? Because sophisticated collectors DO recognize quality when they see it.
Obviously you do not, it is a free country.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:19 PM

Mexifornia residents and all others that recognize the quality of the 60's cox cars ..in fact at Christmas time I got to relive these cars in a real world visit. my youngest brother has a large stash of these cox bullets. We made a trip to Modelville up in Massacewets and raced Chaparrals, Ford GTs and other oldies including the mac daddy of its day, a la Cucaracha. Of course there not as speedy as a thin slice of stainless with a big motor covered by a bubble of Lexan ,,but they are great drivers cars. And the quality is outstanding. Now the AMT redo's sound like they just skipped a step on some important features. That's a shame but from what I'm hearing it can be fixed. It"s a retro ride no one should expect them to be a flex fast car but in today's real world I would expect some nice hardware like I said what would the up grade cost 64 cents ??? still with a little assembly and parts swapping would the amt cars be some thing fun to race in a world of Lexan rockets [there getting boring] I have some built up cars that are a blast to race on a oval there old school FCR based with outrageously over powered motors you don't drive these you heard them like cattle .... :)
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:46 PM

I bought ONE Cox car in the 60s. Pretty, but not very functional for recreational use, or actual racing of any sort. Perhaps they were more functional in France during the 60s on commercial tracks. I wasn't there, so I would have no idea if that was true...

I bought many 1/32 Mongram and Revell cars and chassis in the 60s.

'Quality' collectible junk for the 'sophisticated' still does not make them good....

Indeed it is a free country.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:49 PM

So.........has anyone seen one of these new AMT kits with anything other than bodies molded in white plastic?
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:49 PM

Can someone post a picture of one of these cars built up.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:01 PM

Can someone post a picture of one of these cars built up.


I gave up! lol
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:06 PM

I got one of these coming. Hoping to do a build up and a nice modification thread eventually. (I keep watching the mail box... but nothing today.)

As for the 3 star ignorant comment. At least AMT is TRYING! John just hasn't asked the right persons..... YET! But he will and this is just the start as long as people remain POSITIVE!

Here is a link to a pic of the completed chassis. http://www.modelcars...showtopic=53489

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:01 PM

Jairus,
That's good that they are trying. Could they not have asked around before making expensive tooling? The net result is that if people are dissatisfied by the first product, they may not come back for more if and when the product is made with better design and engineering.
Exactly what is going on with 1/32 scale slot car racing where there is a very small enthusiast market but where the 95% of buyers (the one that buy these sets for their kids) are constantly renewed because each new set is disappointed with their purchase and the racing set quickly ends in a closet.
If I may remind you, it is because of years and years and years of crappy cars that GM, Ford and Chrysler were overwhelmed by better foreign cars, and now while their product has greatly improved, they have a heck of a time regaining lost market shares.
The very same applies here. If one is to do something like this, do it RIGHT the first time, it does NOT cost more.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:56 PM

If I give you the address, would you send one of your TSR cars to John Greczula with a simple note? If you can not be condescending, he and I would really be appreciative of the help I am sure.

BTW, if John had bothered to ask me, I would have pointed him your way in the first place.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:59 PM

I wish these cars had been designed more in line with AT LEAST the H&R chassis. There is a fantastic opportunity to create a new clientele for 1/24th scale model slot cars through AMT's distribution network, and I fear it's been missed as the AMT car is not quite the product the Carrera RTR cars are, to say nothing of comparisons to the BRM or ScaleAuto cars.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 11:18 PM

What I like about it is, it's a kit, not a RTR. What I don't like about it is, they could of done a better job of it. I like "Kits"! That's one of the reasons I build RC planes and have built and raced 100s of RC cars in the last 20 years.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 11:40 PM

If I give you the address, would you send one of your TSR cars to John Greczula with a simple note? If you can not be condescending, he and I would really be appreciative of the help I am sure.

BTW, if John had bothered to ask me, I would have pointed him your way in the first place.

Jairus,
While I have no more personal financial interest in the TSR cars company, I would be very pleased to do so.
If you wish to get him in touch, I would give him the same advice as I provided to Monogram, which they unfortunately ignored in favor of a dreadful design. Hopefully some day, someone may listen, so that kids DO get better slot cars that actually STAY on the track?

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

It is TRULY amazing that such a chassis design could be developed and funded that was so out of touch with the technical function of motive power. The chassis is a true shelf queen of bad design. An FCR or H&R roller would drive infinitely better....the only possible modification would be in flag relationship to the front bumper - IF you really desired to hide the flag at all.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

Soooo... I challenge you smart guys to buy one and with-out swapping out the chassis. Make this "sows ear" into a silk purse then! (Since we have so many bench racers here.)

As I said to John in my last correspondence, I am trying to remain neutral over this product. But the fact remains that any company making an product makes every attempt to reduce costs. In this case the chassis is used for both 1:32 scale and 1:24 scale with a variety of wheel base and track sizes in both. So as far as the motor mounts and body mounts. I figure those have to remain.

But trimming the nose of the chassis to give the guide better swing, finding a better motor, guide, gear, wheels and tires ARE free game!

So, that is the challenge dudes! Put your money and skills were your mouth is and show AMT how we do it here on SLOTBLOG!!!
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:44 PM

This is an embarrassing product. Other than the body the rest is worse than stuff we had as kids. My Strombecker's woulD last longer than this will. What sham on the public.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:00 PM

Noose is right, but let's see if we can get this right in theory:
Some of the issues can only be resolved by modifying some of the injection molding tooling, some can be fixed by swapping parts, some cannot be fixed without new chassis tooling...

Using the same chassis for 1/32 scale cars limits the possibility to widen the rear-axle bracket to allow the mounting of FA or FK motors without that insane adapter, but it can be done, with minimal compromises.

I would go to straight stainless-steel axles (with chamfered ends) and a two-step wheel bore (with a tiny gas-escaping hole at its end), like on the TSR cars, that absolutely ensure a concentric fit and unlike those silly push-on wheels on Fly and Ninco cars, does not split the wheels when the trapped gas has nowhere to go.

Push-on gears are fine if using a step bore as again, proven on the TSR models, because if the bore is tuned correctly, the motor won't have enough torque to rotate the gear on its axle. Again, a question of sound engineering at no greater cost.

I would dump the flimsy metal chassis in favor of a wheelbase-adjustable injected plastic chassis made of glass-filled nylon (28% glass to nylon) WITH a heavy (1/16" thick) flat brass pan floating underneath, the 3-piece assembly affixed by a single bolt with a captive nut, the brass pan also holding plastic side body mounts that could use either non-visible adhesive body mounts glued inside the body sides, the body then removable by undoing two screws under the car.
The use of such a chassis would allow to do away with added axle bearings as the TSR cars have proven as their bearings can run hundreds of hours of use with no measurable wear, and take very little physical space in case of a preferable sidewinder motor installation.

The 2-piece guide is not necessary and a simple circular guide with spring-loaded return running on a "track" under the chassis and secured with a self-tapping nut would not only be much better but would allow the use of ribbon-style contacts and do away with flexible lead wires.

Last, a magnet traction option is easy to engineer in such a chassis, regardless if inline of sidewinder.

I can design and engineer that thing in minutes... ^_^

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:27 AM

Soooo... I challenge you smart guys to buy one and with-out swapping out the chassis. Make this "sows ear" into a silk purse then! (Since we have so many bench racers here.)

As I said to John in my last correspondence, I am trying to remain neutral over this product. But the fact remains that any company making an product makes every attempt to reduce costs. In this case the chassis is used for both 1:32 scale and 1:24 scale with a variety of wheel base and track sizes in both. So as far as the motor mounts and body mounts. I figure those have to remain.

But trimming the nose of the chassis to give the guide better swing, finding a better motor, guide, gear, wheels and tires ARE free game!

So, that is the challenge dudes! Put your money and skills were your mouth is and show AMT how we do it here on SLOTBLOG!!!


I'm gonna use part of the chassis. I should be done after I set up my home track.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:35 AM

UPDATE:

I was not suppose to take pictures and post them, so I didn't. (all a big secret you see) But... AMT sent me a few weeks ago, another chassis to test. This one with a proper set of gears and set-screw wheels. The slip on rubber tires were still there as was the motor but I am happy to report it ran around the track with no problem after I added the correct number of guide washers.

A real slot enthusiast could true up those rubber tires in a few minutes and it should do some fairly respectable laps. (I wonder of they changed the winding on the motor?)

The guide is new as well and protects the lead wires from getting cut off when it swings. But it's still two piece.
I sent them the car back with a few suggestions and sent along my modified version with a Pro-Slot motor, Parma guide and Pro-Track tires front and rear. THAT baby hauls!

That's about it. The new kits will probably hit the hobby shop this fall.

And they asked me if I thought there were any vintage AMT body kits from the past that were worth re-releasing.
I am not familiar with the AMT slot line up other than the Corvette and the Thunderbird. PdL mentioned a Mercedes in another thread. So... if you guys have any favorites, let me know and I will pass the word along.

Respectfully submitted,

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:51 AM

UPDATE:

I was not suppose to take pictures and post them, so I didn't. (all a big secret you see) But... AMT sent me a few weeks ago, another chassis to test. This one with a proper set of gears and set-screw wheels. The slip on rubber tires were still there as was the motor but I am happy to report it ran around the track with no problem after I added the correct number of guide washers.

A real slot enthusiast could true up those rubber tires in a few minutes and it should do some fairly respectable laps. (I wonder of they changed the winding on the motor?)

The guide is new as well and protects the lead wires from getting cut off when it swings. But it's still two piece.
I sent them the car back with a few suggestions and sent along my modified version with a Pro-Slot motor, Parma guide and Pro-Track tires front and rear. THAT baby hauls!

That's about it. The new kits will probably hit the hobby shop this fall.

And they asked me if I thought there were any vintage AMT body kits from the past that were worth re-releasing.
I am not familiar with the AMT slot line up other than the Corvette and the Thunderbird. PdL mentioned a Mercedes in another thread. So... if you guys have any favorites, let me know and I will pass the word along.

Respectfully submitted,

Jairus


My first slot car was an AMT Cobra and my buddy bought a Ford Mustang. For the day and for what they were the bodies were great. The chassis and that Mabuchi motor not so much so.....

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:05 AM

J, Thanks for the effort. I do believe it could work if done correctly. Offer the chassis as a complete kit with no body. Also offer the body mounts,decals etc. as a separate items. They could even offer a hotter motor separate.These little items are money makers.Then offer the bodies as plain white and molded in color. The molded in color ones would bring the younger crowd and those who don't like to paint in. Plain white for the Hardcore builders. By offering an adjustable chassis and mounts separate a builder could use any AMT kit to build Stockers, Muscle cars etc.

Here are at least a couple bodies I would like to see.

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And this too.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:57 AM

Thank you, Joe, for the great pictures. I will indeed pass the information along to John. :)

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:02 PM

there making a new one... SWEET!


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 03:43 AM

Jairus,

I have inquired a couple of times here on Slotblog about them also including FoMoCo and Mopar cars to their lineup.

Also, I think they made a Lola T70 roadster back in the day. A friend of mine had one.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:55 AM

Thank you Doug. I will add the Lola to the list and suggest a line of racing cars next for both body kits and full chassis kits.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:01 PM

From an old magazine...


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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:21 PM

i am glad to hear news of a new and updated, beter chassi sdesign. I woul add one or two suggestions regarding the bodies:
(1) add the interior!! a complete model kit vs an incomplete model kit.......
(2) i have built several slot cars from AMT promo cars and kits that come pre-decorated. This would make it faster and easier for all (novice and old pro) to assemble a track worthy slot car kit.

AMT makes/has made these, so why not use a pre-decorated model kit (and/or promo) with a good chassis to make a GREAT slot car kit, add the vintage era packaging, and what more could i ask for?? ok, i'll ask that AMT re-issue their line of stock cars and GT race cars as they origianlyy did in the '65-'66 slot car era. Add Cobras, Mustangs, Corvettes, Chappys, as pictured above examples: bring back the golden era of 1965-1966 slot car racing.

(3) why not re-issue the 1965 era brass pan chassis- it worked then, they still work well now??!!

and yes, no matter how the current issue chassis perfrom, i am stil happy that AMT is re-issuing slot car kits with retro packaging. my thanks to all who are trying to help AMT with these re-issues.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:18 PM

My votes for other bodies---olds tornado 66____66 galaxie---66/67 fairlane (promo body already available) any 60's impala and the ac cobra.
The cars are gonna be fine when raced against each other---newer chassis' blindingly fast are the last things people should compare a retro style release to.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:57 PM

I am still REALLY happy that AMT is releasing these kits, and I look forward to the next batch that is coming to market (hopefully this month).  On the body side of things, Like others, I would love to see a Cobra - in addition to this, it would be neat to see them offer a "series" of cars like:
Corvettes (one from each generation?)
Trans Am racing series (late '60's / early 70's Mustang, Camaro, Charger, etc)
Turn Pike cruiser series (60's vintage full size cars along the same lines as the Galaxy and Catalina kits)
'80's iron (Grand National, Hurst Olds, 5.0 Mustang, IROC Z, etc)
Muscle Car series (GTO Judge, Hemi Cuda, etc)
 
In regard to the chassis - it is definitely far from "stiff", but has proven easy to modify, so there is that "plus".  Some modifications that I would like to see are:
- eliminate the "motor adapter" (which would be a cost savings) - and go to a standard two screw affair similar to what a Parma Womp (and others) use.  It would also be nice if a 16D motor could be mounted without major chassis work as an option for the FK size motors (see the mods I had to do to the chassis for the 442 build I did in the other AMT posting)
- create a drawn / depressed tongue for the guide flag mount.  Currently the guide sits nowhere near deep enough in relation to the tire/wheel size/axle combination as supplied (resulting in needing to use a number of spacers or deal with de-slots).  I solved this on my latest build by soldering on a piece of 1/16 brass and then a Slick 7 guide to the bottom of that and still have a .010" washer between the guide and the tongue to get it deep enough. 
- Modify the tongue design to allow a greater range of angular movement - similar to the vintage AMT chassis, Parma Womp chassis, etc
- Consider moving away from the mild steel (most likely an SAE 1006/1008 dead soft, 5 temper product) to a half or full hard, low carbon steel - or better yet, switch to a mild HSLA (high strength low alloy) 50ksi (or higher) grade.  Either change would do wonders for adding some much needed stiffness to the chassis without adding weight or complexity (stamped in stiffening beads, etc) to the design.
- Consider switching to 1/8" axles - it would allow use of a full range of custom wheel/tire options ready available off the shelf - making servicing / maintaining / racing these chassis easier. (for those of us that run these on the track on a weekly basis. Would love to see the chassis improve to the point that it would be possible to develope a "box stock" class using them!)
- Consider a changing to a one piece guide flag using the standard 3/16" shank - this will for better stability and is a possible cost savings over a two piece unit?
 
- Consider offering a "Hop up" / "Track pack" / "Performance Plus" type kit or kits offering different levels of enhancements that may include some selection of:
- Alternate gears (pinion and crown)
- Alternate tires
- Alternate / Hotter motor(s)
- Bronze bushings / ball bearings for the axles
- Silver plated pick-up braids
- Etc
Similar to the Aurora Thunderjet "Hop up kit" theme?
 
Just some thoughts... 
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