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#1 John Streisguth

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 10:22 AM

Are the following Slick 7 chassis competitive, or just scrap metal at this point?

S7-447C Asp 4

S7-499 K1

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#2 W. J. Dougherty

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 10:29 AM

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:15 PM

What works and doesn't work is dependent on the track, motor, body, tires, and driving style. It's the entire package that makes a car competitive. How I adjust my controller makes a big difference.

I had no luck getting any of these cars to run with the small armatures. I either had too little power or too much with lock-up brakes in spite of using the maximum choke. The big arm motors and a tire change worked wonders.
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:21 PM

Mike:

I understand that the chassis is only one part of the equation. I'm just trying to determine if these have any value.

As an explanation: my local track owner "inherited" these along with other stock when he took over the raceway. Not being involved with this type of racing myself, and he being new to slot cars, we have no idea if they are usable or are hopelessly outdated. I'm just trying to do him a favor to see if they are something that would be worth listing on the Slotblog marketplace, or just throwing together as rental cars.

There's always eBay... anything can sell for the right price. :D
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:33 PM

John,

Those chassis are kind of outdated. The K1 used to be one of the best GT12 chassis for a King track and the Asp 4 used to be a good chassis for flatter tracks.

Now with all the Mack and Saunder chassis, those chassis have kind of went by the wayside. I think they would be perfect beginner chassis for anyone wanting to get into GT12 style racing.
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:52 PM

If your track doesn't have a GT12 program I'd put them on eBay.

It always helps to know what you plan to do with the products in question.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:11 AM

A lot of people still run the Asp derivatives (i.e. both of those chassis). Personally, I don't like them as well as the Mack Bulldogs or the new PMP, but would rather have one than a Saunders. The Asp 4 still wins many races on the Twister. But my track record was set using the original Bulldog.

The Asp 4 would probably be one of the best rental cars you could ever assemble. They are nearly bulletproof and handle awesome. If you have enough of them to build out a fleet, I would definitely do that over a WhisperJet!
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:40 AM

In answer to your question: yes.

The K1 is made for banked King tracks. That's why its called a K1. IMO the K1 is better than the K2, which is a shorter chassis and very difficult to drive on outside lanes.

The Asp 4 is a very good-handling chassis. You will find it hard to find another chassis that handles as well as the Asp 4.

The Bulldog is lighter and probably faster on the middle lanes. You might have to add some lead to the Bulldog to get it to handle but you won't need any lead with the Asp 4.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:27 PM

Put a Hawk 6 or 7 in it and have a great loaner car for a newby.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:57 PM

Every car built does not have to be a race car.Using them as DEMOs may inspire the class.This would add more profit than selling them on E-bay.I like to run my outdated Mossetti to show newbees you can go fast without wings and glue.If you build them they will come.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:17 AM

If you have a lot of them--use them for your own spec class of racing! Give the racers a great deal on them--and race! Their not going to compete at a national event--but locally--who cares? I'm still running the Asp iv and the GTX chassis very competitively at BPR raceway on the flat track! My times are within a tenth of the fastest Macks and Saunders chassis--which if I drive well--will put me on the podium.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:30 AM

I use an Asp 4 with f can motors & medium downforce bodies, like Retro-Pro style bodies. Works great in our 6.0 breakout class (220 Dadds Engleman, Slotcar Cave, Rockhill SC)
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