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[Raceworld61]

NOV 5, 2011 - Raceworld Speedway - LaGrange, GA
1832 Vernon Street
LaGrange, GA 30240
706-845-9992
Steve & Shirley Harrington - Owners
90' Orange & 71" Tri-Oval
www.raceworld-speedway.com

DEC 3, 2011 - Cordle Model Speedway - Marrietta GA
1951 Canton Rd. - Suite 60
Marrietta, GA 30066
404-680-0220
Eddie Cordle - Owners
170ft. Hill Climb
60' Oval
www.cmshobbies.com

FEB 4, 2012 - Heart of Dixie Raceway and Hobby Center - Talladega, AL

121 Johnson Ave.
Talladega, AL 35160
(256) 223-0842
145' Hasse Paperclip
71" Tri-Oval

MAR 3, 2012 - The Viper Pit -- Thomasville, GA

1396 Dillon Road
Thomasville, GA 31757
(229) 225-9224
155' Tunkel Blue King
165' Tunkel Engelman
120' Ogilvie Orange

MAR 28-31, 2012 - AMSRA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS -- The Viper Pit -- Thomasville, GA

1396 Dillon Road
Thomasville, GA 31757
(229) 225-9224
155' Tunkel Blue King
165' Tunkel Engelman
120' Ogilvie Orange

[Raceworld61]

STANDARD RACE DAY PROCEEDURES

1. Pit Pass - 5.00 pit pass per day for track time. (paid to track)
2. Entry fee is $10.00 all classes
3. All cars shall be inspected and impounded prior to race.
4. The chassis must be marked with the drivers name for identification.
5. The body, chassis, motor, and pan will be marked with a distinctive spot of non-removable paint or ink.



UNSPORTSMENTLIKE CONDUCT
Unsportsmanlike conduct on the part of a driver or turn marshal will be subject violators to immediate disqualification at the discretion of the race director. Verbal abuse or profanity will not be tolerated. The race director may first warn drivers, marshals, or pit helpers if their behavior is unacceptable. Serious or repeat violations will result in a five-lap penalty for the first infraction and 10-lap penalty for the second and disqualification on the third infraction.


TRACK CALLS
The power will only be turned off for extremely unfair or dangerous situations’ The following are the only acceptable reasons:
1. Braid up
2. Power failure (one lane or all)
3. Debris in lane
4. Unmarshallable car
5. Lap counter or track equipment failure
During a track call, there will be absolutely no work performed on the cars or lane preparation (unless car was already removed during green-flag conditions). Doing so will result in a 10-lap penalty. A second infraction will result in disqualification. This restriction applies to both drivers and their pit helpers. Marshals will be allowed to pull out bodies that are dragging in an effort to preserve clean racing.





Race Day Schedule.

Doors Open 8am
Track Power 8:15am

Open Practice until 10AM both tracks.

10-10:30am Amateur 4.5" NASCAR practice
10:20 Amateur 4.5" NASCAR TECH BEGINS

10:30 - A DRIVER MEETING TO GO OVER THE NEW RULES!

10:45 AMATEUR 4.5" NASCAR RACE BEGINS

There will be a 10 minute intermission between Amateur and Advanced.

ADAVANCED 4.5" NASCAR follows with a 20 minute practice.
Tech will open 15 minutes into practice.
Race to start 10 minutes after practice ends.

There will be a 10 minute intermission between Advanced 4.5" NASCAR and 4" NASCAR.


Amateur 4" NASCAR follows with a 20 minute practice.
Tech will open 15 minutes into practice.
Race to start 10 minutes after practice ends.

There will be a 10 minute intermission between Amateur and Advanced.

ADAVANCED 4" NASCAR follows with a 20 minute practice.
Tech will open 15 minutes into practice.
Race to start 10 minutes after practice ends.


There will be a 10 minute intermission between Advanced 4" NASCAR and AMATEUR GT-1.


Amateur GT-1 follows with a 20 minute practice.
Tech will open 15 minutes into practice.
Race to start 10 minutes after practice ends.

There will be a 10 minute intermission between Amateur and Advanced.

ADAVANCED GT-1 follows with a 20 minute practice.
Tech will open 15 minutes into practice.
Race to start 10 minutes after practice ends.


There will be a 10 minute intermission between Advanced GT-1 and AMATEUR GTP.


Amateur GTP follows with a 20 minute practice.
Tech will open 15 minutes into practice.
Race to start 10 minutes after practice ends.

There will be a 10 minute intermission between Amateur and Advanced.

ADAVANCED GTP follows with a 20 minute practice.
Tech will open 15 minutes into practice.
Race to start 10 minutes after practice ends.

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MARSHALLING
1. All drivers are expected to marshal the race(s) following their own races and/or their own, depending on the number of entries.
2. Substitute marshals must be acceptable to the race director and drivers. Good racing is not possible without good marshals. Every racer is required to do his/her part both before and after racing if necessary. Failure to fulfill marshaling responsibilities will result in lap penalties and/or disqualification. (There will be fine for leaving without marshalling to $10.00.) All cars will be impounded after all to insure fair and proper marshaling responsibilities.
3. Effective corner marshalling is important to all. The following must be adhered to for effective corner marshalling
a. Watch your area of responsibility - Avoid temptation to watch the race
b. Pick up de-slotted cars first - 1st priority – clear the track
c. Watch your neighbor’s area - Help if they get swamped
d. Take note of the location of stopping in their section during lane change, especially near the lap counter

[Raceworld61]

4" Classes

Chassis:
Must be a commercially available stamped steel chassis for both 4" and 4.5" classes.
Minimum track clearance, .062”, measured under rear axle before the race in pre-race tech.
*No Rear Axle Ball Bearings, ONLY Bushings*

Bodies:
1. Body must be fully painted. Chassis/ track surface must not be visible, viewed overhead
2. All windows must be clear.
3. Must have 3 decal or painted numerals, appropriately placed on body to resemble real racecars.
4. Must have full molded interior, properly painted or detailed in at least 3 colors, properly positioned and completely hide chassis viewed overhead. Paper or flat interiors are OK.
5. May reinforce with tape and/or Lexan
6. No add-on air control devices
7. No alterations or additions to the manufactures dimensions
8. Any cut-outs or openings must be the same as on the actual car
9. Must have wheels, visible through cut out or clear wheel wells, or stickers of 2 or more colors. No wheels drawn on body w/pen.



4.5" Class

Chassis:
1. Wheelbase must be 4 ½” +/-.032”
2. Chassis length must be min 5 1/8” From center of guide post to center of rear axle
3. Extenders:
a. Must be original manufacture, used on chassis they were designed for
b. May solder extender to chassis and remove front wings
c. May remove front wings for extender/front wheel clearance only
4. No Rear Axle Ball Bearings, ONLY Bushings

Body:
1. Body must be fully painted. Chassis/ track surface must not be visible, viewed overhead
2. All windows must be clear.
3. Must have 3 decal or painted numerals, appropriately placed on body to resemble real racecars.
4. Must have full molded interior, properly painted or detailed in at least 3 colors, properly positioned and completely hide chassis viewed overhead. Paper or flat interiors are OK.
5. May reinforce with tape and/or Lexan
6. No add-on air control devices
7. No alterations or additions to the manufactures dimensions
8. Any cut-outs or openings must be the same as on the actual car
9. Front wheel wells must be cut out to reveal 75% of wheel, viewed from the side.

Axles.Wheels/Tires
1. Front axle must be solid, one piece steel, minimum 3/32” dia., and pass through both front uprights
2. Front tires must black rubber, minimum .675” dia., .400” width.
3. Front wheels must rotate, they may rotate as the axle rotates or they may rotate individually.
4. Front axle may be soldered, but front wheels must rotate. Axle holes my be enlarged to allow front tires to touch the track.

[Raceworld61]

NO MORE HANDOUT MOTORS

MOTORS eligible for each class:

4” and 4.5” NASCAR
Kelly Bullet
Slick 7 Mini Brute
TSR
Falcon 7
Hawk 7
Parma 501
Speed FX 16-D Chinese arms
16-D Built Motors (arms must be Tagged 16-D)

GT1 / LMP
Kelly Bullet
Slick 7 Mini Brute
TSR
Falcon 7
Hawk 7
Parma 501
Speed FX 16-D Chinese arms
16-D Built Motors (must be Tagged 16-D)
Speed FX Contender – Chinese Arm
Contender Built Motors (must be tagged CONT)


GTP
Kelly Bullet
Slick 7 Mini Brute
TSR
Falcon 7
Hawk 7
Parma 501
Parma 502
Speed FX 16-D Chinese arms
16-D Built Motors (must be Tagged 16-D)
Speed FX Contender – Chinese Arm
Contender Built Motors (must be tagged CONT)
Speed FX S16D Chinese Arm
Speed FX S16C Chinese Arm
S16D Built Motors (Must be tagged S16D)
S16C Built Motors (Must be tagged S16C)



* NO NEO MAGNETS
* SINGLE CERAMIC MAGNETS ONLY
* NO ALUMINUM ENDBELLS
* NO "BOW" ARMS

** BUILT MOTORS may have a Ball Bearing on the CAN END ONLY. (NO End Bell Ball Bearings)


*** 16-C arms and KS16C arms will not be allowed after 11/30/11. They have been removed from the list.

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PROTEST

A. A competitor may protest another racer's equipment by officially informing the race director before they have announced the race scores as final and commanded cars (on track and in impound) be picked up.
B. A racer must be aware of the rules when entering a AMSRA event and withdrawal is not an option in the case of a protest.
C. Any racer in an AMSRA sanctioned race whose equipment is protested and then refuses to have their equipment torn down and/or inspected shall be banned from competition in a race for a period of 6 months from the date of said infraction.
D. An individual $10.00 fee will be posted for each and any part of a racer’s equipment inspected. (excluding armature)
E. Special provisions for armature protest are in the following section.
1. Any competitor may protest another racers armature. They must officially inform the race director, at which time the race will be stopped.
2. The protester may “buy-a-look” by posting a non-refundable $2.00 fee. He/she is then entitled to look at the suspected armature in the car
3. If not satisfied, he/she may formally protest which requires posting a fee equal to double the current manufacturer suggested retail price of the most expensive distributor available USRA legal armature of the same type.
4. At this time, the armature must then be non-destructively and indelibly marked (suggested method is unique Dremel marks on the shaft). Extreme care must be exercised to avoid damage to armature balance and delicate components such as ball bearings, motor brushes, etc
5. An impartial race steward must then be charged with the responsibility of observing and verifying the authenticity of the armature for post race inspection.
6. Thorough disassembly and inspection must be conducted immediately upon completion of racing, in a manner assuring accurate technical verification.
7. Measure armature stack length. If within specs, inspect the wire. This can be accomplished by destroying any epoxy or similar binder with extreme heat (suggested method is to use a small torch). Then dissecting the armature with a Dremel and carefully measuring the wire and counting the turns.
F. Fees and any winnings/points will be held by the race director until resolution of the matter, and then promptly surrendered to the appropriate party(s).

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DRIVER CLASSIFICATION

A. AMATEUR
Any Non-sponsored who have never won 3 or more Amateur National Championships in the past 5 years. May drive in either Amateur and Advanced with no penalty. Any driver may elect to remain Amateur until the condition is met.


B. ADVANCED

Any driver may elect to run in the Advanced class. Any Sponsored driver must run Advanced. And Driver that has won 3 or more Amateur National Championships must run Advanced. Any Driver that has won an Advanced National Championship in the past 5 years must run Advanced.

[Bud Greene]

What is Going to be the Rule For Front and Rear Clearance and Can We use Ball Bearings in the Axle

[Raceworld61]

Thanks Bud,

You always wonder if you forget something when you work on all these.

Edited under Chassis in the post above.

" Minimum track clearance, .062”, measured under rear axle before the race in pre-race tech.
*No Rear Axle Ball Bearing Bushings* "

No minimum on the front clearance.

[Randal]

I see you have a race on the schedule in Tennessee next summer. Do you know what track will be hosting?
Thanks,
Randal

[Raceworld61]

Randal,

Not yet, I have a few more phone calls, to get some of the dates confirmed so that I can load up the dates with the locations.

[Joe Rocket]

do you know where the AMSRA NATS will be held at this go round?......

[Bud Greene]

I Have one More Question about the Motors. Can You Run any one of those motors in both the amature and Advanced classes

[Bud Greene]

I Have one More Question about the Motors. Can You Run any one of those motors in both the amature and Advanced classes

[Wild Thang]

Bud, I was told yes to your question.. Chad said if you have a falcon 7 that you like you may run it in every class in both amatuer and advanced if you like..or any motor that fits the rules for that class may be run in both.. That rule is for the low budget racer so they can run every class without a box full of motors . and still FUN...

[Wild Thang]

Joe Dirt you know a pro.. lol..p.s. you have to go on a scavenger hunt b4 you can run anything lol

[Joe Rocket]

A. AMATEUR
Any Non-sponsored who have never won 3 or more Amateur National Championships in the past 5 years. May drive in either Amateur and Advanced with no penalty. Any driver may elect to remain Amateur until the condition is met.


As far as I know I am Unsponsored, and haven't won 3 or more Amateur National Championships in the past 5 years...

Why do I have to go on a scavenger hunt?...[

[Wild Thang]

Remember the Nats in Pilly.. You guys were doing one the day when we were there... Just giving you a hard time.

[Joe Rocket]

Oh yeah, the hotel scavenger hunt Shaw had me and Trevor do... LOL.

[JHMerriman]

After reading the post I have a few questions about rules which I didn't see covered:

Is there an approved body list? Some series consider high downforce GT1 bodies to be GTP, even though there marketed and sold as GT1.

Are COT bodies legal for NASCAR?

Are ball bearings allowed in the can or endbell?

Can you change motors or tires during a race?

Are any tires allowed, such as "Speed rubber" types?

Is tire bite or glue allowed during the race?

[GotToRace]

Looking forward to this season.

A few questions, some may have already been asked.

4" Class:

1. "*No Rear Axle Ball Bearing Bushings*" I assume by this you mean:
No Rear Axle Ball Bearings Allowed. Bronze/Brass/Oilite Bushings Only.
Not sure what a ball bearing bushing is. Always thought ball bearings and bushings were two separate things.

2. Under the Body section:
"Must have wheels, visible through cut out or clear wheel wells, or stickers of 2 or more colors. No wheels drawn on body w/pen."
Does this mean the wheels are to be attached to the body instead of the chassis? And do we have the option of using wheel stickers on the body in lieu of actual wheels ala USRA. Excuse the profanity.

4.5" Class:

3. "May remove front wings for extender/front wheel clearance only"
Are we "Required" to remove the front wings fo the wheels touch the track?
Or may the front wheels sit on top of the wings?

General

4. Are built motors only for the Advanced racers?
5. May the Armatures run built motors?
6. Ball bearings allowed in motors?
7. Any restrictions on motor setups?
8. Aluminum endbells allowed?
9. Koford arms allowed?
10. Approved body list or disallowed body list?

[Raceworld61]

James,

Is there an approved body list? Some series consider high downforce GT1 bodies to be GTP, even though there marketed and sold as GT1.

There is not a list for the bodies. If a local track has the bodies in stock, you should be able to buy them at your local track and race them in the appropriate class. After a phone call to make sure on the GT1 High Down Force bodies, we reached the following. As long as the body is marked for GT1 or LMP you can run it in that class. You may even choose to run it in GTP if you wish.

Are COT bodies legal for NASCAR?

After conferring a little while, the COT bodies with and without the side air dam on the back spoiler SHALL be allowed to run.


Are ball bearings allowed in the can or endbell?

I have edited the post above in the motor section. For BUILT MOTORS ONLY, you may use a ball bearing in the can end only. No ball bearings allowed in the end bell.


Can you change motors or tires during a race?

AMSRA has always allowed for tire and motor changes during a race. But be prepared for a possible spot check on the chassis ride height during the race. This could happen if the race director or a corner marshall thinks a car may be dragging the track and be too low to cause damage to the track during racing conditions.


Are any tires allowed, such as "Speed rubber" types?

There is no tire rule to regulate "Speed rubber" type tires.


Is tire bite or glue allowed during the race?

This will probably be more or less a track owners call. Tire prep will be allowed, as long as it is done to the tires only. Any Racer WILL NOT be allowed to add Glue or Tire Bite to the track surface directly.




Hopefully this has answered the questions to your satisfaction.

[Raceworld61]

Steve,


4" Class:

1. "*No Rear Axle Ball Bearing Bushings*" I assume by this you mean:
No Rear Axle Ball Bearings Allowed. Bronze/Brass/Oilite Bushings Only.
Not sure what a ball bearing bushing is. Always thought ball bearings and bushings were two separate things.

I probably worded that poorly or copied and pasted the stuff together wrong. Should be "* No Rear Axle Ball Bearings, ONLY Bushings.

2. Under the Body section:
"Must have wheels, visible through cut out or clear wheel wells, or stickers of 2 or more colors. No wheels drawn on body w/pen."
Does this mean the wheels are to be attached to the body instead of the chassis? And do we have the option of using wheel stickers on the body in lieu of actual wheels ala USRA. Excuse the profanity.

This would mean that if you choose to have the body be clear at the front wheel openings, you must have an axle with front wheels located in the stock location. However if you choose to get creative with the front tires, I would suggest using wheel dot stickers on the body, which are like that USRA rule you so spoke of..


4.5" Class:

3. "May remove front wings for extender/front wheel clearance only"
Are we "Required" to remove the front wings fo the wheels touch the track?
Or may the front wheels sit on top of the wings?

This if for use of exttenders only. Like the Champion 4.5" extender kits to put on a 4" car. Otherwise the chassis must stay true to it's original shape if it is already a 4.5" chassis.


General

4. Are built motors only for the Advanced racers?

NO. Each class Motor rules refer to the class racing. Both Amateurs and Advanced racers will follow the same rules set.

5. May the Armatures run built motors?

Not sure what you might be asking here, but BUILT MOTORS, American tagged arms.

6. Ball bearings allowed in motors?

Ball Bearing in the can end only. Not in the endbell.

7. Any restrictions on motor setups?

Only restriction should be Aluminum Endbells are not allowed. Most of those rules for Built Motors will be same a USRA.

8. Aluminum endbells allowed?

It is already posted in the motor section at the bottom and again in the answer to your question #7.

9. Koford arms allowed?

Only "BOW" are not allowed.

10. Approved body list or disallowed body list?

There is not a list for the bodies. If a local track has the bodies in stock, you should be able to buy them at your local track and race them in the appropriate class. After a phone call to make sure on the GT1 High Down Force bodies, we reached the following. As long as the body is marked for GT1 or LMP you can run it in that class. You may even choose to run it in GTP if you wish.


Hope that covered any of the confusion racing around for you Steve.

[Russell]

New here. BOW ? Is that Best Of West? so this is run what you brung and hope you brung enough. LOL See yall in Marietta.

[Raceworld61]

yes... "BOW" is Best of the West.

and It is run what you have as long as it pertains to the rules.

And why not the first race in NOV. You owe me like 6 Raceworld Visits....Mr. No Show.

[Russell]

Subtract the one where I was the only one to show for a race, and that makes us even. I have cars being built now and NOW having to build motors, I'll just take my time and get ready for Marietta.

[Raceworld61]

How you get 6-1 = 0 ?

And for the motors....I plan on running the Hawk7 right off the wall after getting beat by one in GTP a few weeks ago.

[Russell]

i agree on motors. I am very impressed with the f7 in my wing car so I will be doing some testing with it.

[Bud Greene]

Would a Dirt Late Model Body be Allowed in 4.5 Class

[Pablo]

Bud, which rules are you referring to ? There are about 4, as far as I can tell from my ugly experience:
1. The currently posted rules on Slotblog.
2. The future rules after they get all the bugs worked out.
3. The unwritten, secret rules known only to Terry Kelly, and only leaked verbally through secret channels.
4. The Nats rules.