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#1 One_Track_Mind

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:32 PM

A few months ago, while I was doing the health recovery thing here at home, I ran across an old friend that I went to school with,using the social media Facebook.

Looking at his pictures, there was an oval slot car track. Being surprised to say the least would be an understatement. I say this, because if where he lives now, is where I grew up and never thought ever would I hear of or see a slot car track in that area.

He told me it's a private club track where the guys get together and race Parma FCR chassis with dirt late model bodies.

I went on to ask him If he'd ever heard of an offset chassis for the oval. He had not. So I told him I would build one and send to him to have for fun. This give me the total liberty to build a car with no rules in mind.

Now? how would I build it?

Of course, a copy of the most popular car, in the Retro East belonging to Matt Bruce. it took going thru a lot of the old race reports that Noose had posted here on Slotblog to finally come up with enough pictures of this car. Some parts of the build where not clear enough to do an exact copy, but since this was a No Rulz type build some parts of the build where improvised on.

4.5" wheelbase, 3.25" wide, .050" clearance front and rear, JK Retro Stock Car fronts, Pro-Trak rears, TSR D3 motor, Parma guide flag, TQ wires. The body is something I made.

The airbrush and me just don't get along sometimes! :) I hate to paint, and am really not good at color selection. The following pictures will prove that.

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A big Thank You, to Tony P. andSteve Kempson; with their knowledge and keen eye, they helped keep me on my toes on a couple of mistakes along the way.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:10 AM

LOOKS COOL, Brian.. Like the ear plugs for the mud plugs in the wheels.. TOO COOL.

To bad we can't run that type of chassis in retro ANYMORE...........

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 11:53 AM

Brian,

I think it looks great and the chassis is awesome. I had never seen the Matt Bruce example.
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:15 AM

That's a nice car. :good:

I remember when there was a lot of excitement about retro oval. Then the IRRA disallowed off-set motors, and it sucked the life right out of it.
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:41 AM

Retro oval was fun for a couple of races then it started to suck as the chassis got so good it became all about motors. Those off set car we built were basically punched everywhere. For the average guy the off set cars were too hard to build, that was the main reason they were outlawed.
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 01:18 PM

That is bad to the bone, Brain, including the paint and the bra on the front !!!
I LOVE IT :good: :drinks:
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 07:48 PM

Hi Matt,
Here is the Matt Bruce car, photos courtesy of Retro East, Noose, Slotblog.

Notice, how Matt mounted the motor upside so he didn't have to cross the lead wires.

By no means has my intentions of posting this build has to do with IRRA stockcar retro racing or bringing up anything that was in the past.

Truly, a Fun built car for a friend.

Thanks for the great design Matt. :)

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 10:50 PM

That's a nice car. :good:

I remember when there was a lot of excitement about retro oval. Then the IRRA disallowed off-set motors, and it sucked the life right out of it.


There is still a lot of excitement about Retro oval racing in the Penn-Ohio Retro Series... ;)

Seven of the nine series races are contested on oval tracks...

Have to agree that the offset cars were different and added interest to the class when they were legal...

In reality, the same concept has been achieved with the standard chassis by adding weight to the left side pan.

Brian's offset dirt late model is cool, and would be a great class for any raceway that has an oval...

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 02:13 AM

Thanks Brian for the history lesson and the ear plug tip!
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 04:24 AM

Your Welcome Matt,
here's another quick tip for you then.

Try some different colored HO silicone tires inside the wheels. ;)
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Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:27 AM

Nice build Brian, I always did love the dirt cars, both late models and outlaws. Racing on clay is the nutz. The offset chassis is cool.
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Posted 08 November 2011 - 07:39 AM

Retro oval was fun for a couple of races then it started to suck as the chassis got so good it became all about motors. Those off set car we built were basically punched everywhere. For the average guy the off set cars were too hard to build, that was the main reason they were outlawed.



Can't believe this statement... Oval is still a blast, no different then can/am or F/1 now...Stilll about the motor..People selling chassis for for more money then what there worth, [ I think ] The average guy can't afford chassis's like that , so whats the diff..
Still comes down to the motor..... [ I think ]
Try running that L T O car on a roadcourse :laugh2:

Most if not ALL retro racers have more then one car for EVERY class anyways..

Just speaking my mind, that is, whats left of it.. [ LOL ]

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 06:22 AM

A quick update, from my friend after recieving the car.

My Friend:
Just got home from work and opened it up, wow it's cool, headed down to the track now and try her out,
Again thank you very much !

Me:
Awesome! and whatcha think of it, now after driving it?

My Friend:
It's now got the fastest laps turned on the oval. My brother-in-law was just amazed, I may sneak it on the track at this weekends race, again thank you! When you make more bodies let me know!


Here is the track,he told me this was purchased from a closed Raceway down in Virgina

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

Thank you all for the history and ideas for the dirt car chassis. I am just starting out on scartch building and enjoy all the info you guys share.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:46 PM

Welcome Rick.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

Hi Rick,
Welcome! Enjoy your stay!
This was a fun project to build, and I have since got to drive the car on this track and it's a total blast!!
When I get some time, I got an idea for some more of these type of chassis.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:08 PM

That track reminds me of the tri-oval at Sonny's in Beachwood NJ, where we ran some of the first Retro East stock car races.  I think the record was under 2 seconds.  That was the problem we had, the cars were so quick and the tracks pretty short,  that you could barely get more than 2 or 3 laps without a track call because once one car came off, they all became a "dogpile on the rabbit"  LOL

And Mike Katz won with the same chassis he runs today on roadcourses, so go figure.


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