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Posted 16 May 2007 - 05:23 PM

I was cleaning out my garage and found some fixtures that reminded me of yet another unfinished project that I need to finish.

The Cox Gurney Stocker has always been one of my favorite slot cars. It really has "The Look". Apparently lots of others agree because the price of an original piece in good shape was and still is quite high.

Almost 20 years ago I was a struggling apprentice machinist. I had access to machine tools and materials but very little extra money. But I was jonesing for Gurney Stocker. What to do? Why, make one from scratch of course! I borrowed an original from a friend for reference under the condition that I would make an extra chassis for him.

The first fixtures are simple aluminum blocks that I sandwiched six stacked-up pieces of 1/32" thick brass sheets between 1/8" thick brass backing plates. These were then drilled and end-milled into a flat pattern of the front and rear motor mounts. Here are the "consumed" fixtures and backing plates:

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I machined another aluminum block the correct width to shape the flat patterns into motor mounts. Here is a left over set:

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A steel tool was machined to form the "hump" in the drop arm gusset by placing a sheet of 1/32" brass in the tool and compressing the tool in a press:

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The body mounts were also 1/32” sheets sandwiched between thick backing plates and drilled and milled. Here are the "consumed" backing plates:

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The rest of the chassis is various sizes of brass tube that all needs to be soldered up to the brackets in the correct position and alignment. Another hunk of aluminum and a zillion dowel pins later and I had a soldering fixture:

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Here's what my finished repop chassis looks like in the fixture. It's got some light corrosion here and there so I'll need to toss it in the tumbler for a few hours:

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This is one of my more elaborate jigs I used to bend the main rails . . . hey, whatever works!

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The end of the main rails had to be flattened out and bent around the axle tube with some round jaw needle nose pliers:

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The drop arm tube was split down the middle with a cut-off wheel, flattened, and bent around the pivot tube with pliers:

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A close up:

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The drop arm gusset was cut with a Dremel cut off wheel and a hook bent with pliers for the guide's self-centering rubber band:

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I added a screw hole in the front motor bracket to help secure the motor:

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The finished chassis:

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The front wheels are unique to the Gurney (I think!). I lathe-turned a pair of repops from aluminum bar stock:

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The rest of the parts were picked up at EJ's Hobbies and REH (remember this was a long time ago!). My friend that loaned me the chassis kicked down the front axle and knock-offs. For a body I started with an old AMT 3 in 1 model kit. To get the little slots that the body mount tabs fit into cut in the right place I made another fixture. Hey, I was an apprentice machinist . . . I machined everything! Here's the body clamped into the fixture with the rear wheel wells located against a stop:

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This is the resulting slot and the 1/32" diameter end mill I used to cut it. The cutter radius in the corners was removed with a jewelers file:

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While the body was in the fixture I machined this cut-out for the quick-fill gas cap to go in:

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I scraped all the molded in trim off the street car body until I came upon the windshield wipers the Cox car doesn't have. I could remove the wipers but the little grill vents wouldn't be "Korrect". What remains of the wipers would be blocking the vents. Maybe that's just how it has to be?

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ARG! That's when I threw the project into a "Captain Rick Official Slot Car Storage Box" and moved on to something else. All the mechanical stuff was done and the modeling and painting remained. For me that meant the thrill was gone and I bailed.

Fast forward to today. I saw the beautiful Gurney Stockers on Slotblog done by Jarius Watson and Chris Clark. Then I happen upon a resin repop interior kit on eBay. I contacted Jarius and he's agreed to apply his magic to the modeling part of the project. Thank you, Jairus.

I love it when a plan comes together! More to come . . .

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 05:50 PM

Wow, a real nice piece of work! :clap:
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 06:26 PM

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Gee! Rick, you make me sweat just by looking at the pictures . . . please give me a call, I will GIVE you an NOS chassis, for God's sake! :lol:
Incredible and splendid work. :)

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 06:52 PM

It is actually possible to remove the wipers, and carve out the vent slots with an X-Acto knife. Go ahead, ask me how I know this. :shock: :x :wall: :roll:

Actually, removing the 427 logos, while leaving the body spears intact was probably at least as hard, if not harder.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:35 PM

The red roof turned blue from emotion or was there one painted like that driven by Turnis Curter? :)

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:52 PM

Don't know the driver, but, there was indeed a blue roofed Galaxie. I think Dan even drove it at least once in this color combo. :shock:
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:16 PM

I had access to machine tools and materials but very little extra money. But I was jonesing for Gurney Stocker. What to do? Why make one from scratch of course . . .

Beautiful work and that attitude is worth its weight in gold. :clap: We need a few million more people thinking along those lines in this country.

What's more, it got you the prize from Dokk and you have a Gurney chassis jig and tooling worth $$$.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:18 PM

Nope, it only came in red and I have color pics to prove it . . . :)
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:47 PM

Nice job, Rick! Since you have all the jigs, when are you firing up the production line? :)

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 11:32 PM

Holy Smokes! No, I'm not making any more of these :shock: . There is lots of hand and machine work involved . . . and I'm a lot older now ;) (and hopefully wiser!). The only easy and really fun part was soldering up everything in the jig. That jig worked really well.

Slitting a piece of 1/8" tube down the middle, flattening the pieces, and wrapping them around a 7/32" tube to form the drop arm is something to look back on with satisfaction and hopefully never to repeat :lol: . But I wouldn’t trade this chassis for a dozen Cox chassis. :) .

Hey, Dokk, could you help out with the Korrect driver figure ? :mrgreen: :?: :) It's a Cox #14025.

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:00 AM

I was cleaning out my garage and found some fixtures that reminded me of yet another unfinished project that I need to finish.

I hope you finish this, Rick - The chassis looks amazing !

Excellent post - more please. :)
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:57 AM

Rick, your craftsmanship simply blows me away . . .

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:02 AM

Hey, Dokk, could you help out with the Korrect driver figure? It's a Cox #14025.

Sure thing Rick. But in fact it is exactly the same as the regular Chaparral/Dino driver, only with amputated feet to fit inside the cockpit . . .:)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:23 AM

I think I have sheets of the Cox "stock car" waterslide decals available if anyone is tackling this project.

I am sure we can work out a reasonable price if anyone is interested.

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:25 AM

Amazing work . . . Just amazing . . . Again, I am in AWE . . .
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:34 AM

Please, Rick,
Forgive me for intruding on your outstanding thread (great build, great pictures as usual!!!) but, in a shameless display of vanity, I wanted to show off a poor man's Dan Gurney's (a fake one, can you believe it!).
Here is my (original copy) AMT Professor Motor Fairlane kit made up by Swissracer:

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The chassis was tuned by Bruno Novarese, so it could be decently raced even by me in Turin's 18th Vintage meeting which took place last week:

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The 36D motor is a Kaiser Edolf Engineering's assembly of an unmarked Champion can with Arco mags and a Monogram 6 volt arm.

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PS: You might notice the Royal touch on those beautiful Ulrich wheels. :)
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:10 PM

Sure thing Rick. But in fact it is exactly the same as the regular Chaparral/Dino driver, only with amputated feet to fit inside the cockpit . . .:)


Thanks, Philippe. :) I'll take care of that Chaparral/Dino driver's feet. :shock: :mrgreen: . I'll PM you my mailing address and thank you again.

Forgive me for intruding . . .

Hi Edo, thanks for sharing your neat car. I say everyone, show us your Gurney Stockers here!

Here's the link to Chris Clark's beauty: Gurney Stocker.

I can't find the post that shows the Jairus restoration or I'd put it here, too. 8) .

I'll get the running gear all polished up and assembled. I'll next round up all the bits and pieces I have for the body and interior and post pictures. I'm hoping between the Dokk's driver figure, resin repop interior, and the race car parts in the vintage AMT 3 in 1 model kit, Jarius can make it work. 8)

Thanks to everyone for your support. :up:

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:16 PM

Gurney, the only driver that Jimmy Clark ever worried about . . .

Cool, stockers all the way around!

. . . You might notice the Royal touch on those beautiful Ulrich wheels . . .


. . . Seriously, Edo, do you think I could miss them? :love: I must have them.
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:43 PM

I must have them.

They are MINE!
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:47 PM

Such a materialistic mind . . . don't you want to share with everyone, like sending them free of charge to the museum for all to enjoy? 8)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:08 PM

That thought never will cross my mind!
They are MINE!
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:10 PM

Quel egoiste!
I guess we are lucky to have a little stock of them, then. :mrgreen:

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:52 PM

They are MINE!

Some Socialist you are . . . :lol:

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:07 PM

He was until he got his first paycheck and saw 50% of it gone to government waste . . . :lol:

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:07 PM

I would have much to say about those kind of comments but out of respect for the thread's subject I won't comment.
Rick, may you forgive those who don't know what they are talking about!
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 04:12 PM

Rick, may you forgive those who don't know what they are talking about!

Dood, this is AMERICA. . . . it's a way of life! :lol: :twisted:
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 05:19 PM

And Edo, may you and Swiss be forgiven the blasphemy of portraying Dan Gurney with a white helmet. :x ;)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 05:24 PM

Kaiser Edolf will be made to pay for this outrage! :mrgreen:

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 05:33 PM

Dennis and Philippe,

In Edo's defense, the Cox instruction sheet's painting instructions specify a white helmet. :shock: I am leaning toward making my car look more like a Cox Gurney Stocker than a scale version of Dan's real car. Be this as it may, I can only carry this ruse so far. Therefore, I will not be painting my little feetless driver's helmet white. :mrgreen:

This brings me to the question of what color Dan's helmet was? Was it black or a very dark blue or ???? :?

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 05:42 PM

In Edo's defense, the Cox instruction sheet's painting instructions specify a white helmet.

That's for the main driver for the car, Curtis Turner. Dan only drove the car ONCE, at riverside. Of course, as the Riversidemeister, he let everyone of them hillbillies in his dust. :lol:

Dan's helmet at that time (but not today) was very dark blue, nearly black. It was made by Buco. Later Dan switched to Bell after Buco ran into financial difficulties and was absorbed by another company.

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 07:57 PM

Has the real Gurney stocker been restored by anyone? :?: :)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:35 PM

If you are talking about the 1966 Riverside winner, nope, it no longer exists or at least has not been found yet. After the 1966 season it was probably sold to some hillbilly who wore it out in Kentucky's roundy-round Friday night races . . . until it got smashed or rusted to extinction. I know that someone made a replica of it.

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 09:50 PM

Mr P: There is an awfully fine slot racing facility in Kentucky . . . as well as a C&W karaoke bar near by with some VERY healthy-appearing local female talent.

Note: it was common practice in that era to build the current season's car from what was left of last year's car. For all we know, some bits of the Gurney car may still be competing in Nextel Cup.

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 11:32 PM

May be the dash-mounted rabbit foot for good luck? :)

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 02:32 PM

The chassis was polished in the tumbler and everything assembled. Here's the rolling chassis:

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The body sits on the chassis nice and LOW:

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I'm still waiting for the resin interior to get here then I post a picture of all the parts for Jairus to check out . . .
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 03:44 PM

:)
Looks good in red even . . . or how about black with flames? :lol:

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 03:48 PM

JW . . . flat black?

RT. Certainly something to aspire to. :shock:
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 04:06 PM

How about this:

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 06:30 PM

Great job on the chassis, Rick! :)

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:33 AM

I know this is an old (and great) thread, but I was trawing through 'Gurney Galaxie' posts looking for some info on colors for the body.

Sure, red and white... but is there a red and white that is more correct to use than others?

I've seen many versions with whites varying from cream, off white, to pure white like the white plastic the body is molded in.
And reds varying from pillar box red, to tangerine, to blood red.

Please help out.. what colors are correct for the real 1:1 car?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:44 PM

All the bodies by now are ivory due to age Steve. Build it how you want it. :)

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:45 PM

All the bodies by now are ivory due to age Steve. Build it how you want it. :)

Fair enough, but I'm interested to know what the colors on the real 1:1 car was.

Does anyone know?
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:03 PM

I have some Ford color charts from the 60's supplied by the Automotive Paint Manufacturers Group, and typically the passenger colors used were "Wimbledon White " "Paint Job No. M " "Candy Apple Red Paint Job No. T" or Commercial Colors "Special White, Paint Job No.C "and " Red, Paint Job No. J". I had a pickup truck and despite it being a commercail vehicle it was Wimbledon White.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:07 PM

Painting white over red is basically impossible, so make sure that you use a gray primer first.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:30 PM

I just ran across a 1965 Ford Mustang facts book while trying to put my color charts away and in 1965 there were two different "Reds" available "Rangoon Red ,Paint Job No. J (same # as commercial color) and "Poppy Red" Paint Job No.3 ,Wimbledon White was the only white available. List price was $2,320.96 for 2-door Hardtop. $2,557.64 for the Convertible both with a 200 CID 1V 6-cylinder motor and $105.63 more for the 8-cylinder 289 CID 2V motor !

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

Good stuff chaps, thanks.
That's got to get me a lot closer than where I am now.

I've had some success painting red plastic with silver first, then white over that.
The gray primer also works ok.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:13 PM

Thanks for the leads Gary.
Google gave me the 66 Galaxie body colors and it now looks like I'll be painting the beast 'Rangoon Red' over 'Wimbledon White'.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:15 PM

Sorry Rick for jumping on your thread.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:08 PM

For those who do not know- MCW is an excellent source of racing colors and paints.

http://www.mcwautomo...t/racelist.html

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:28 PM

Thanks for that MG,

They list a few colors for Gurney cars;
'66 Ford #121 Harvest Motors - 2067 red
LaFayette Ford #28 - 6430 white
LaFayette Ford #28 - 2161 lt blue
'65 Ford #121 - 6634 emberglow
T/A Cuda & Eagles - 2084 dk blue

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