13 replies to this topic

[Fast Freddie]

No, I'm not being sarcastic. I've wanted for a long time to see Ron race against his peers on equal ground. I have been one of the most outspoken critics of him racing his own motors. This time he raced OTC motors and proved to me and everyone else just how good he really is.

I watched all the racing online and I especially liked the come back in the Can-Am race. It showed he truly has the ability and heart to win under adverse conditions and his concentration was amazing. I don't think he came off a half a dozen times the whole time he was racing. Having a well-prepped car helps also.

So as I said in my PM to you, Ron, congratulations on your wins and the second place wasn't bad either.

Maybe I'll get a chance to make the R/6 and try my luck. Hope to see you racing one day.

I wanted to put this in the "Observations of the R4/5" but it's locked up.

Fred

[Howie Ursaner]

Ron said he did not run the bag motors in Can-Am Semi and Final. So that's that. And I would not call Columbus "equal grounds" for obvious reasons. Ron did a fantastic job as usual but keep the facts straight.

I did what I had to do and ran enough laps to make the Semi which I won with a refurbed motor as the "bag" motor I had run earlier I couldn't tell if it got "hurt" in the qualifying race crash. I ran the same motor again in the main and pretty much ran with Chris R on the same lap the entire race.

[Jacob Shiplet]

I thought Ron said he ran a bag motor for qual and his first race?

[Ron Hershman]

And I would not call Columbus "equal grounds" for obvious reasons.

Well then why do you even bother to come, Howie??? There are several guys that race and practice there way more than I do... do you have a problem with those guys, too?

But, hey, you knew this coming into the event yet you still chose to come and participate/race.

So other than the Coupe race... in the F1 and Can-Am classes... EVEN if I had not been in attendance at the race... you still would not have made the main in F1 or Can-Am.

Your problem should not be with me BUT with the other drivers who kept you out of the mains in F1 and Can-AM and I DID NOT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, Howie.

Your performance at the race is ON YOU... NOT ME.

[Tim Neja]

WOW!

[flem1959]

Ron and Rande are the two of the most experienced, dedicated, and talented slot car racers I know.

Congratulations to both of you guys and I wish you many more wins.

[Rick]

It's time to put this all in perspective. Ron ran his usual flawless race and he is just damn good on that track. Chris ran, as Ron said, lap for lap with him for 24 minutes. The end finish was less than a whole lap or like 4 seconds between first and second. Ron ran a refurb in the Semi and Main and Chris ran a new bag motor in his car. Rande by far had the fastest car on the track, bar none. The position for Rande for third was .05 seconds in front of James. It was great close racing from every one the the A. No hocus pokus, nothing up any sleeves, just great cars, great drivers, and great competition.

Now! Rande builds fast cars, nothing more needs to be said. I'll bet he could take your 5.0 motor, put it in his car and go 4.8 with it. How does he do it? I can't answer that question.

Every race again this year was very close. One lap here and one lap there, one less off or one more off and everything changes around. Think about it, even being back eight laps is only 40 seconds off a win after 24 minutes of racing.

C'mon out and grab some of the fun...

[Howie Ursaner]

I have nothing against your performance. I am just saying state the facts.

If they say you won with a bag motor and you did not then what is wrong with stating the truth? I am responsible for my performance and no one else so don't confuse the issue.

You are the master of Columbus and its variations and if that is fine but I would not call it equal ground for all of the out-of-towners. Equal ground would be racing on a track that is unfamiliar to all.

My beef is with your hands in the Pro Slot motors and you winning races. End of story. This is called a conflict of interest.

[Noose]

Howie, the BoD is well aware of the concerns of some and stay tuned for an announcement that anyone can utilize if they think ANYONE is cheating is with the motors. I REALLY looked over motors this past weekend. You had a really good one in your F1 as I recall an as a result it sorta kinda got you in some trouble and the President of the new club you formed.

I also didn't hear anyone complaining like this when you won the lat two Can-Ams at the Sano, dude.

The bag motors Ron bought were done right there in my presence as noted. He ran one in the GTC-PD race and won. He was also TQ. He had it in his car for his heat Main and his car got hit in the first heat. He is is allowed to change motors before the next race just as you could. He did and the car was teched again before his Semi, as were all the others. His car was teched again before the and after the final Main. All others were teched before the final Main and all of the podium cars were teched after all of the Mains.

[Cheater]

And that's the end of that off-topic line of discussion in this thread, OK?

Anyone wanting to go there needs to start a new thread but it darn well better be kept civil.

We're not going to diminish the success of R4/5 by dragging up innuendos that have been discussed numerous times before.

[TSR]

As I read this, I see that once more, Ron deforms the words of another, a common fact and practice in these pages. Howie simply pointed the simple facts, that Columbus is truly Ron's "home track" in the same manner as BPR is MY home track. That gives Ron an advantage, and that gives me an advantage. That someone comes to race to either place is not the point made.
Fred also said as it has been published that Ron won the main with a "bag motor" and that is not correct, and Howie corrected Fred with the simple truth.

This does not mean that Ron is not a very good racer, of course, he is one of the very best there is and has over what, 30 years of experience, doing nothing but breathing, eating and vomiting slot cars.

Howie did not say anything that deserved the kind of response Ron wrote here. Howie is correct on both his points. Ron's comments are simply superfluous.

[Gator Bob]

More post (than pre) race trash talk.

Ron v. Howie "heavyweight rematch" sound like the way to go.

Neutral King track
Bag motors
Can-Am - best two out of three.
Rotation keeps cars two lanes apart.
Drivers trade motors after twelve rotations and go back at it.
Live Internet (pay per view?)
$1,000 to win -
Think 50 people (49 to go) would put up 20 bucks?

Just saying...

[TSR]

Bob,

No one is accusing Ron of motor tampering.

[Cheater]

Keeping my promise...