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#1 Lone Wolf

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:30 AM

At the request of Cheater I will start each day of this in a new thread. I will try this for a week or two to see how it works out.

Today we have some Tiny's tires. These should bring back some memories for you original hardcore racers. I have never seen these before in the original package. Dig some of the names. The back reads "Tiny's Hobby Engineering CO. 1418 West South Central Park, Anaheim, Calif. 92802".

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:17 AM

I don't recall ever using any but from the magazine articles Tiny's were the first good tires. One thing for sure, they had some good names! :)

I believe these tires were adapted from foam material used at Tiny's work place.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 05:53 PM

Looks like this idea is off to a crappy start, I'll give it a couple more days to gauge interest. Don, I remember reading that this rubber was actually plane fuselage insulation. Don't know if it's true.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:26 PM

And Tiny's slot car track, IIRC, was on Los Angeles Street (Now Anaheim Blvd) and Lincoln. I do remember the aircraft insulation rumor but can neither confirm nor deny it.

And around the corner and down the street on Lincoln was Daytona Raceway, home to Bryan W. and J. Tore Anderson back in the day. Daytona also had a fantastic tyre that I think pre-dated Tiny's. They were black and worked really well when treated to a bit of "juice" (oil of wintergreen). I was told a possible tall tale about the origin of the Daytona's - '57 Caddy hood grommets! Believe it or not!

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:27 PM

Give it a little time. Luv this kinda stuff.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:12 PM

Looks like Rubatex colored SBR rubber to me.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:16 PM

Tom,

I'm thinking the other tire besides Tiny's might have been called Cleve's or maybe Van Cleve's. Both tires are mentioned in the 1966 race reports. I'll look and see what I can find.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

Which was used for aircraft insulation!! Hope there wasn't any fire on board.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:22 PM

Excerpt from the new book (yes, be patient, I am working on it!)

Tires were black or gray sponge produced by local manufacturers, Jack Tate was first to provide a better tire, but these were quickly made obsolete by the new "Tiny's". Tiny’s real name was Augustus Cornelius Spratt, and he owned a raceway in Anaheim appropriately named Tiny's Hobbies. From there he marketed neoprene foam donuts in various colors, the gray and blue being the racers favorites. Augie Spratt was a huge person, 6'3" and over 300 lbs of personal heft, hence his ironic nickname.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:37 PM

Fellas,

Cool subject... what year did the Tiny's hit the market?
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:37 PM

1966. as Ron pointed out, likely stock stuff from Rubatex and no super-secret nuclear submarine door sealing material... :)

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:38 PM

Joe, please keep it going. While I can't comment on a lot of it, I'm learning all sorts of cool stuff.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:47 PM

I'm thinking the other tire besides Tiny's might have been called Cleve's or maybe Van Cleve's.


Van Cleave. Still plenty of them around, new in their baggies with their beige tags... :)
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

I remember "Tiny" and the name was... uhh... earned,

And around the corner from his track was a - Buster Brown Shoes store. :)

Pretty easy name to grab... :laugh2:

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:54 PM

Were the Tiny's considered very pricey in the day? 89 cents would convert to about $8/pair today...
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:57 PM

Nothing was cheap when demand overwhelmed supply... :)

Slot cars were a favorite pastime for approximately 3.5 million young and not so young Americans in 1966... astounding number to hear today.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:37 PM

Cool! I always love looking at old packaging to see where the stuff was made. Most the time its right around the corner from where I live; seems lots of slot stuff was made in SoCal.

So are the compounds different per color or does the color itself make the tire better and less better? You never really see yellow or brown on many old cars.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:13 PM

:good: Good stuff. :good:

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:18 PM

so are the compounds different per color or does the color itself make the tire better and less better? you never really see yellow or brown on many old cars.


It all depended on which way the wind blew, which track you ran them on, etc. The color dye in them gave them some different characteristic, but mostly it was a question of batches. One month, a batch would be good in "gray", the next month the "orange" were better, next month it was the turn for the "blues". Black were rarely a good choice for some reason, maybe too much dye in the neoprene made them too hard...

Today, the gray survive much better than any other color for some reason.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 12:08 AM

Were the Tiny's considered very pricey in the day? 89 cents would convert to about $8/pair today...


Considering they cost Tiny about 6 cents a pair back in the day... I would say Tiny made more than the customary five times cost is the retail price. ;)

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 06:07 PM

Tiny's real name was Augustus Cornelius Spratt, and he owned a raceway in Anaheim appropriately named Tiny's Hobbies.

Augie Spratt was a huge person, 6'3" and over 300 lbs of personal heft, hence his ironic nickname.


And for the linguistic history records, another "tiny" connection:

Spratt

English: nickname for a small or insignificant person, from Middle English "sprat" (of uncertain origin).
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:34 PM

Bertil,
an appropriate name for a substantial individual would you not think? :laugh2:

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:46 AM

I remember the Tiny's name but never had any. Our local track sold various colors of foam tires glued to aluminum threaded hubs from Champion of California - not Chamblee. Those were popular at the time. I remember having a green pair, a light blue pair and some grays.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:13 PM

Weren't the Champ of Cali tires sold as Tiny's?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:06 PM

Tony,

I don't know. Your experience in this hobby is a ton deeper than mine. It would be interesting to find out. I have a light green pair and a light blue pair that are almost NOS. I got them from a (now deceased) friend of mine about 1999. I have them stored in (hopefully) air tight plastic 35mm film containers.

Back in the day, we would soak them in genuine oil of wintergreen to soften them up. Our local track was in a shopping mall and there was a drug store next door. That was convenient! I tried to find some a few years ago and the best I could come up with was synthetic.

Someone here on Slotblog recommended getting the Walmart equivalent of Ben-gay, so I did that and it seemed ok. I did put a bottle of it in my slot box to bring back the smell from the day. Young people today think because I'm an old man, that I keep Ben-gay in my slot box. They don't realize every kid's box back then smelled of wintergreen. :laugh2:
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