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#1 Mike Wahrlich

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:36 PM

Hello...

I was searching the net about this slot car set. I could find pictures at mrconey.com and other pages... but they have a different box and insert...

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Is this a "first" version??? Is it possible to find out the production year?

Unfortunately it looks like the driver is missing.... and the instruction page.
is there anything else missing...???

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:02 PM

It is not a "first version" but it is a French version, assembled in Made in France boxes in Rumilly, Haute-Savoie, in 1965 and 1966.
It is relatively scarce in this box.

Your kit is fitted, like all these issued in France, with the last iteration of the Igarashi open-frame motor with the brushes at the other end of the motor.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:41 AM

wow... walking library... ;-)
Thats why your name looked familiar ;-)

I think it is hard to find a driver for this kit...!!!
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

It is the same driver as for all other Strombecker kits, but you have to still find it. The dragster kit was the last to use that driver, that comes in 3 pieces.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:26 PM

Someone should have come out with Grampa's Dragula.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:34 PM

This car looks like a complete piece of chrome junk, that said, I'd like one. :dash2:
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:25 AM

has somebody a detail picture of these 3 parts driver???
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 02:55 PM

Your wish is my command...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:15 AM

perfect!! i mean the picture!! but now i am sure, that this figure is missing in my stuff... i found some drivers... but not this one!!
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 10:01 AM

I am not sure that anyone made resin repros of these drivers, but they were in the Jag D-type and the Ferrari "Testa Rosa" RTR and kits (The Strombecker people, like many in the USA, cannot figure "rossa" (red) in Italian, so they ended with "pink head" instead).

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 03:24 AM

I received more stuff from the same source... and there was a manual from Strombecker... also made in france... but on the car pictures is not the dragster...

so my question... is this the manual also for the spook... or is there a special version with the dragster shown on the manual??

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:06 AM

Mike,
Yesterday, I registered the kit inside the belly of the Beast, the LASCM's vault, where thousands and thousands of mint and boxed old slot car kits are now avoiding destruction by the ones unconcerned by the value of history.
Indeed it was missing its instructions and decals, but no problem as there is plenty of spare paperwork there.
The Spook dragster is only called "Dragster" on the European market and came with the American assembly instructions and a sheet translating the American language in 4 different linguistic essays used by the Desunited Yurrup, French, Italian, Spanish and German.
Spare decals and the 3-piece driver are a bit harder to find but fortunately there are spares from already disposed of incomplete kits acquired in the past, so the "Yuro" kit will soon be completed.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:07 AM

Thank you Philippe...
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:04 AM

only the assembly instruccions leaflet of Strom´bolid/Strombecker custom kits that I´ve seen as french language are :

 

*  Jaguar E, Ferrari Berlinetta

*  Porsche RS-61, Lotus MK19

*  another common instruccions, but was blended and I saw only for Jaguar D ... maybe too for Ferrari TR.

 

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Viullerme was importing Strombecker American material (although Japanese engines) to France.

In the first stage (Nov'1963-summer'65), European headquarters was in Strombecker Paris SA and the material was marketed as : " Strom'bolid, with Strombecker licence ".

In a second stage (summer'65-67), there was a move to Rumilly, because there was a contract partner with the company Mont Blanc to even manufacture, but that's another topic. The material is returned to be marketed in Europa, simply as " Strombecker ".

As there import third stage in which the pieces are of Asia (1968-1973) although the French branch independent and manufactured to 1975.




Of course there are intermediate material Strombecker with box and instruction pamphlet Strom'bolid.

The fact that only one of the models have the instruction booklet Strom'bolid is translated into French, which gives an idea of the models had a higher volume stock.

Just return the old material was sent or American excess, while the new material sometimes appeared in the catalogs but import prices are too high.

Dragster in customkit This is for example very rare in Europe, in fact its 1965 list price was higher than other models as the instruction pamphlets were so translated into French.


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

Indeed, the history of Vuillerme and Mont Blanc is confusing at times. The above instructions show "Dowst (France)" as being the company distributing and/or manufacturing the product. By that time indeed, Cosmo-Dowst of Chicago had purchased the assets of the floundering Strombeck-Becker company, but had immediately changed their own name to... Strombecker Corporation and will bear this name until a 1975 reorganisation of the 120-year old business, back to... Tootsietoy Corporation.

There is no doubt that parts for the early 1960s 1/32 scale models were manufactured in France, with duplicate molds made in America, for the same reasons as in Spain: hefty protectionist duties from the De Gaulle virtual dictatorship France was under. By the late 1960s, other kit centents including that of the Spook dragster, and all the 1/24 scale kits were simply imported from the US and often, from Japan where Strombecker had the kits produced.

Hence, prices were very high.

At the end and when the business collapsed in the USA, it is likely that at least three of the 1/24 scale body molds were sent to Vuillerme that produced battery powered toys from them into the 1970s.


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:41 AM

For instance.... 

 

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The Lotus and Chappy are friction toys from Mont Blanc, but the Ferrari is a battery-powered toy - with a guide pin! Still haven't found the set these fit, and you Philippe? 

 

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:19 PM

Don,

one assume that it ran on some kind of plastic slotted track but I have not see any that would correspond to the size of this car.

The others look like some kind of premiums for the Yacco oil company, arranged with Vuiilerme/Mont Blanc.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:49 PM

Philippe,
I then expose a great summary of my research, I hope I do not make many errors:

Strombeck-Becker, manufactured in Moline (Illinois) one branch of toys marketed under the name "Strombecker". Strombeck-Becker is purchased on March 17, 1961 by Dowst, which in turn belongs to Tootsie Toys. Dowst branch in the slot, called from that time as "Strombecker Road Racing Division". The venue changed to Chicago (Illinois).

Since 1963, the company Model Road and Raceways, takes a Strombecker Road Racing Division some elements of competition and customization.

In 1963 the company created DMA-Strombecker like importing to Canada based in Quebec.

In 1963 the company created Strombecker SA, as Dowst delegation in France, to import and to distribute material for Central Europe. Its address is 45 Rue Lisbonne, Paris 8 °.


In mid-1963, there are Strombecker motors´, really they are Igarashi motors. Igarashi in Tokyo have an agreement to exclusively distribute engines Strombecker Corporation.

 

In spring 1964 there is a new reorganization. It absorbs the Model Road and Raceways company and also the brand is patented, because I think they were very concerned about things they saw in Lionel Corporation of New York and Industrias Plásticas Jugarama SA in Mexico DF. The new company reorganizated is called "Strombecker Corporation".

Strombecker Corporation with Igarashi motors and canadian distributor DMA-Strombecker and france distributor Strombecker SA, they all make up the universe of Strombecker until summer 1965.

In summer 1965 a partner contract was signed between Strombecker Corporation and Mont Blanc in Rumilly (France) to assemble, market and manufacture Strombecker. It had been the first 2 years and the material is already marketed as Strombecker, not Strom'bolid. The new distributor Vullierme SA, expands through central Europe. Adress of Vullierme SA / Mont Blanc : 74510 Rumilly RC Annecy 66b 79.

In 1966 Strombecker Corporation sends to manufacture the new models to Asia. The plastics are injected in Hong Kong and many of their metal materials in Japan.

In 1966 a contract partner was signed between Strombecker Corporation and Hermanos Paya Hermanos in Ibi (Spain) to distribute, assemble, market and manufacture Strombecker in Spain.

In 1966 begins to produce material in France. From Chicago headquarters will be called as Strombecker France Division, since France is called Strombecker France - Mont Blanc.

In 1967 began to manufacture material in Spain. From Chicago headquarters will be called as Strombecker Spain Division, from Spain will be called Strombecker España de Payá.

In 1968 Strombecker Corporation is sold to its former importer of DMA-Strombecker Canada.The new engines, engines wasp, I think not Igarashi.



In 1970 ceases to produce the Spanish branch.

In 1973 stops producing the American branch.

In 1975 ceases to produce the French branch.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:11 PM

regard to 1:32 scale, the only duplication that I know and I can attest, are molds Cheetah and Dino Ferrari. They were injected in France and Hong Kong simultaneously.

There is a duplication of the standart curve by Hermanos Payá.

 

 

 

The molds were duplicated due to failures in the time that forced the need to manufacture these molds B to complete the toy.

 

 

 

For now, as far as I know, the rest of the pieces come from original molds. They were made on different dates.

Copies of Lionel Corporation, Estrela and Plastic Industries SA Jugarama are copies, they come from another molds.

 

 


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

Unfortunately Don, I'm not a specialist in 1:24.

I can only say that there are references from Strombecker 1:24 but marketed sometime after 1968 as Mont Blanc but not slot with the following references:

 

Chaparral - ref 306.504

Ferrari P2 - ref 306.508

Lotus - ref 306.509

Porsche Carrera - ref 306.510

 

 

There are transformers, stretches of track and 1.32 slot cars made ​​in France.
There are transformers, stretches of track and 1:32 slot cars made ​​in Spain.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:42 AM

Did anybody ever come up with an instruction sheet for this dragster? 

 

Just found one to be restored here in France and I'm trying to figure out how the rear end was mounted... it's got the two plastic wheels, and an axle, but the axle is much smaller than 1/8 and I'm wondering if that's the right one. No bearings, but from pictures I've seen (and there aren't many), looks like bronze bushings that slipped into the slots on the body...

 

Thanks for any help, 

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:22 AM

PS: didn't want to wait, and nobody had anything anyway, so here's what I did: found a couple plastic Strombecker rear bushings that fit in the slots on the body, glued them in and put in a threaded axle with generic stamped gear and Strombecker threaded mag wheel... I left the original decoration on, since looks so period, and didn't want to have to rechrome the body! What I like is the kid left the two names: Silver Ghost and The Spook! Gotta use all your decals if you want your money's worth! I like the little details too, like the exhaust pipe tips painted red... I used the original tires, which explains why they look a little dirty, rusty, etc. 

 

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Posted 06 November 2014 - 12:22 PM

Hi,

 

after a long time I return to correct my past mistakes :

 

1/ Strombecker´s slot remains on the market until 1976.

2/ The molds cheetah and Dino are not duplicated. The only duplicated mold of Strombecker is the standart curve made in Spain. Because the original mold arrived not arrive in time for the start of spanish production, Hermanos Payá urgently made a copy to complete the circuit ( I had a interview with the director of Strombecker-Paya ).

 

By the way, I´ve the instructions sheet of Dragster ( in English ), but ít´s not mine. Then I can give to you privately by mail. Mine email is : superpechuga@hotmail.com


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 11:36 PM

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 05:51 PM

Thanks Gary. 

 

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:59 AM

You are Welcome Don, I didn't recall that I had the instructions in my files until yesterday when I was looking for something else and came across the sheet and remembered you were searching for it for some time.  Best Wishes Gary



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Posted 07 February 2015 - 12:54 PM

Is that dragsters frame plastic?
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Posted 07 February 2015 - 01:55 PM

It doesn't really have a separate frame Racie; everything clips into the body, which is plastic. 

 

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Posted 07 February 2015 - 10:05 PM

Okay....I was wondering
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