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#26 Gator Bob

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:25 PM

Tune'er up ...

 

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:40 PM

Many Thanks Paul, Bob, and Don.

I found my front wheel solution. Hworth08 idea of 3/32 hole wheels adapted with 3/32 tubes is perfect.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:58 PM

You're welcome Pablo :) wheels look cool, great article Bob thanks for posting.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:59 PM

This was one of the standard base Thingie chassis from 1967-68. I remember seeing a photo in Model Car and Racing of the Detroit Thingies flipped on their back and one or two had this type chassis, along with the Dynamic rear carrier types.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:33 PM

Changed my mind on the fronts:

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

Sweet looking wheels Pablo :) Who's are they? Almost look like standard Parma womp fronts that they do for 1/16 axles but nicely drilled. Really makes the chassis look good.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:10 PM

Champion? Did someone say Champion?

 

I wonder how a blue endbell drive (hi Bob) 507 would look in that one? Hmmmmm?

 

Have you got one close by?


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:31 PM

Doug, it's a 26D chassis but you're right - it deserves a Champion motor.  Pick up a Champion can with Arcos and an endbell from Mid-America, add a mild Havlicek arm with a Bugenis comm and you'd really have something.  Just my opinion :good:

 

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:53 PM

Duh, you're right Don. If I would have remembered the opening posts I wouldn't have made such a foolish mistake.

 

You see, I built and wound a replica 507 in my Motorshop thread here a couple years ago and Pablo owns  it now. That's where I was going with that.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:24 PM

Sweet looking wheels Pablo :) Who's are they?

 

Paul, I believe those hubs are drilled Parma fronts they sell for GTP cars. Using the stock o-rings they come with, they're 5/8" diameter. It appears Pablo has added larger & fatter o-rings. :)


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:42 AM

Doug, the Champion motor is an EB drive, and the bushing housing is the wrong size for this car.

Bill is correct about the wheels .

Don, I think overpowering this car would be a mistake.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:06 AM

Pablo,

 

Wasn't talking about an all out motor.  Just a mild wind to go in a Champion setup installed in a Champion frame. :) 

 

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:19 AM

I hear you.

But the intended purpose of the car is to make a nice runner for sale.  The stock Mabuchi fits perfect and can be cheaply and easily replaced or rebuilt by the owner at the end of it's life.

If someone wants to buy the car, I'll put whatever you want in it ....... :D  :dance3:

The "special" motors in my vintage box deserve real "Pablo" custom chassis :good:

Tonight, I'll be giving this little jewel my full attention.....


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:58 AM

Sounds like a plan!

 

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:20 PM

"It's harder than it looks" :laugh2:

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The only vintage flag with a proper deck height is a Jet Flag,

and she required a LOT of carving to make her fit the chassis.

Not to mention, the chassis flag holder/assembly required lots of reaming and persuading to make it work.

In the end, I used Parma vintage brass flag clips, and modern braid.  The flag was blueprinted, sanded, filed, and tweaked to make it as perfect as possible.

Orange donuts mounted on Russkit replica rims are drying.

Now, where did I put that doggone Mabuchi 26D motor ? :laugh2:


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:32 PM

Sounds like this build is putting up a fight!? Coming together Pablo , do you know what body you're going to be using for this one?

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:47 PM

As usual...............Great work


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:53 PM

Thanks Ray and Paul, :D

I found a great body that will fit the skinny chassis, and accomodate the fat 26D motor. :heart:

 

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:30 PM

Definitely wide enough as you say for the rather lumpy 26D :laugh2: Should be a right handful even with the standard awesomeness of that motor!



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Posted 22 June 2013 - 04:48 PM

You are so right, Paul, it is a flimsy chassis and a high powered motor would bend it into a taco first trip up the wall :laugh2:  :bomb:

 

Done, except for the body. Drivetrain test sounds very smooth and plenty powerful.  Gears are 8/30 and rears are .835 OD.  Width is 3.125

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 07:00 PM

Does anybody know what body this is ? It sure smells old, when I started carving on it :laugh2:

I have not smelled Lexan that nasty since I build my last TRantula :laugh2:  It must be at least 45 years old :)  It qualifies as a true antique.

Anyway, it has a big bulge on the port side (turbine STP car ?) which required a modification to the pin tubing on the port side.  Simple solutions are best, and in this case, a short piece of brass tube sleeve does the trick nicely.

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A simple brass pin tube piece snaked through, and soldered to, the motor bracket in back. No problemo :)

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 07:20 PM

Not the tubine car .... I think that was an oversized fuel tank.

I'm not good with these cars makes and models, someone will jump in and tell what is is/was.

 

Lookin Good !!!


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Posted 23 June 2013 - 07:24 PM

Body looks like 66 Eagle Ford Indy car.

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If it's that old, and butyrate, I'd recommend you don't breath it in. I believe it is carcinogenic.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 07:28 PM

The body is an Eagle, but I don't know who would have pulled it. The smell may be odd because it might be made of something other than lexan, such as butyrate.
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Posted 23 June 2013 - 07:37 PM

"I ain't skeered", as they say here in the South :laugh2:

I soldered onto the plated carcinogenic chassis, and Dremel trimmed the carcinogenic body.

It's not the first time. Been soldering almost every day now for 12 years, and have not missed a single day of work.

Nobody lives forever anyway :)  


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