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[Steve Okeefe]

Some of the guides in this 1965 group need identification (manufacturer/vendor), availability date (month) and part number.

 

First, a Hawk guide.  Here's a bottom view:

 

 

And a top view:

 

 

Note there's only a small nub to attach the guide to the chassis; similar to a Cox guide of the same period.  Anybody ever seen a part number for this guide?  I haven't.

 

Here's a Pactra guide that resembles a K&B 602, but isn't.  The earlier (1963) K&B 602 guide was molded in yellow:

 

 

 

For comparison, here's a 1963 K&B 602:

 

 

Here's a guide that needs full identification; manufacturer, part number and availability date.  Like the Pacta guide above, it resembles an older (1964) K&B guide, this time a 607.  But it isn't a K&B 607, which like the 602 was also molded in yellow.

 

 

 

Again for comparison, here's a 1964 K&B 607:

 

 

Here's a MDC 252 guide.  Just filling in a missing photo:

 

 

 

Last but not least, a Monogram SR1304 "Compact" guide molded in black.  Might not be a surprise to some of you out there, but the only ones I've ever seen are molded in white:

 

 

More (1966, 67, 68, etc.) to come later!

 

[don.siegel]

Hi Steve, 

 

Here's one answer and a few more questions - feel free to move these as needed! 

 

The Hawk pickup is the SA800 Delrin Pick Up Set, 1965

 

 

Another K&B, which I don't think was up already: No. 603 Front Pick-Up and Guide 5/16" blade for drag racing, $0.49. 1964 or so, I'd guess. 

 

 

Another one from around then, maybe a year earlier, by International: the braids go through the slots in the pickup, and are held in by two screws for which there are holes in the front the guide. 

 

 

Two from Europe - dates unknown, maybe late 60s for the Carrera (very Cox-like) and the 1970s for the Polistil, a white one similar to the Monogram, for their undersized 1/32 cars... 

 

Carrera (no number)

 

Polistil A/7 F

[TSR]

Please note that the K&B Modelrama #603 is also the same (but in a different color) as used on every BZ RTR car.

 

Thing is, the white kind is not easy to find as a NOS part and goes for as much as a Cox "Quick-Change" NOS guide whenever one appears on ePay... because a large proportion of BZ cars have worn or damaged guides and desperately need new ones, and there are few to be had.

[Steve Okeefe]

Philippe,
 
Should the guides from the BZ RTR cars be called K&B guides or BZ guides? In other words, did BZ sell them separately under their own name?
 
If they were BZ guides I could (and maybe should) add them to the chart.

[TSR]

did BZ sell them separately under their own name?

 

Yes. The LASCM has some inside their original blister pack.

But they are very scarce.