Local collector of all things cool, Mark Mattei, came by late this afternoon to help marshal the Flat track race, and show off something he built back when he had a slot track in his bike shop.
A real slot car, I mean, truck
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, Sep 21 2013 07:11 PM
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:11 PM
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Mike Swiss
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:19 PM
That's pretty cool.
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:26 PM
Retro "twin screw" truck racing anyone?
Ya gotta love that drive train. 
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:29 PM
Howie whipped off a 11.79 with it on my flat track.
Sano Dave got it into the 12's before the gear train started to eat itself.
Sano Dave got it into the 12's before the gear train started to eat itself.
Mike Swiss
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:41 PM
Pretty awesome... if it were not for the vintage Champion C-can motor being used as a power plant.
Why?
I'll trade anything for its careful transfer to my studio!
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 04:09 AM
Geez, double reduction gearing (!) What is the overall ratio... like 10:1 ?? 
You can't always get what you want...
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:06 AM
That's an anglewinder of a different feather!!
Slick build!
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:53 PM
To Dave Fiedler, you mentioning that seeing my old slot cars made you feel better made my day, and it wasn't your driving that lunched the gears as an earlier truck driver in training was nailing it off the line full on, I'll rebuild the final drive and and try to make it MikeProof. Hope next time next time you can dine with us.
To Howie Ursaner, an unexpected pleasure meeting you and seeing your smooth and precise first time driving of a high CG truck with four rear non-drifting silicone coated tires was impressive. I'll try to get a picture up of the late '60's 1/25 Italian slotless car set that came from Nat Polk's warehouse. See you at the Mike Swiss "Sano 7" Oct. 4, 5, and 6.
To Dave Crevie, a gearhead for all seasons, great talking with you on subjects ranging from Cannondale motorcycles, Nikola Tesla, tailless helicopters, and live steam tractors, I'll try to bring by that 1940 Lionel train engine that was converted to a gas engine from electric, talk about a "rail racer".
To Mike "Just Ten More Laps" Swiss, as always the gracious host of the most friendly track in Downers Grove, will do my best to beef up the gears on my toy truck to give you a shot at Howie's 11.79. Want to see you drive on the ragged edge and beyond cause solder is cheap and what else am I going to do with all these 1960s slot car gears?
To Inquiring Minds, Jarius "if it were not for the vintage Champion "C" can motor being used as a power plant. Why?" Having built it in 1980, the C-can was not vintage, just a motor of the time, also I have always been guilty of over-motoring my styrene-bodied toy cars.
James Wendel, "What is the overall ratio... like 10:1 ?" gears 12/36, final gears 14/48, 12/36 x 14/48 = 168/1728, giving 1 to 10.285. Good estimate, James.
Thanks for all the comments, you've inspired me to buy an AMT Autocar tractor kit this evening on eBay to replace all the bits lost at tracks over the years, now I just have to find where I left the trailer.
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 08:34 PM
Trailer!?!?!
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:40 PM
NO! No! Don't do it! Leave it the way it is, it has a certain patina about it.
Maybe use the new kit to build another copy of the original.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 03:49 PM
I just thought this would fit in this thread:
A track with electric current in the road. Volvo gets futuristic inspiration from the slot car world.
Pick-up guide in the truck, current in the road "track".
More to read about the project here:
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 05:34 PM
Here's Doug many years ago with one of his toys.
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Posted 26 September 2013 - 12:50 AM
Mark totally redid the gear train to make it "Mike proof".
In the process, he made the truck a lot better. Running it earlier tonight, I ran a 9.9904.
In the process, he made the truck a lot better. Running it earlier tonight, I ran a 9.9904.
Mike Swiss
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Posted 26 September 2013 - 04:12 AM
Is this the next proxy kit event, vintage semi trucks with anglewinder Muras ?
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:24 PM
Corrected some of my errors from 33 years ago. Mike can really drive. Mark.
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:16 PM
Yeah, the sidewinder gear set-up Mark went to, is definitely the ticket to transfer power to the rear set of wheels.
The truck is blistering fast down the straightaway.
I bet I could squeeze a 9.98 out of it.
Maybe with some weight added down low, it would get into the 8's.
Mike Swiss
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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
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17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:09 PM
This is a REAL slot truck
http://www.electric-...ds-concept.html
Someone already posted on that in #11.
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:57 PM
when i drove that truck i never punched it because i knew the gears would blow.I just feathered it and was gentle. I am sure there is a lot more left if i wanted to abuse it and didn't care.
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:15 PM
It's totally different now.
Your 11.79 is more impressive than my 9.99.
Mike Swiss
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