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#1 sidejobjon

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:58 AM

Dash Will be out with new Chassis in next couple weeks. All parts will interchange with Original Aurora TJET.

The first 10,000 will have three lam arms. 11.98 each Rumor has it after all these years NOS TJET Chassis are gone.

Dash has been & still Makes great bodies. I wish lenny luck.

SJJ


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:13 AM

I sure hope they are better then the JL repros.
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 01:33 PM

Hip Hip Horay!
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:42 PM

Dash Will be out with new Chassis in next couple weeks. All parts will interchange with Original Aurora TJET.

The first 10,000 will have three lam arms. 11.98 each Rumor has it after all these years NOS TJET Chassis are gone.

Dash has been & still Makes great bodies. I wish lenny luck.

SJJ

I still have 1 case of the old T-jet chassis NOS



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:45 PM

Dash Will be out with new Chassis in next couple weeks. All parts will interchange with Original Aurora TJET.

The first 10,000 will have three lam arms. 11.98 each Rumor has it after all these years NOS TJET Chassis are gone.

Dash has been & still Makes great bodies. I wish lenny luck.

SJJ

That is awesome hopefully they will be smooth running, good luck Lenny and hope they do well



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:57 PM

Hip Hip Horay!
Where are they sold?

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:50 PM

From the look of the car in the photo, this could be one of the best deals in HO racing in my recent memory!

 

I could see making a whole spec series around these cars. A club could order a few dozen cars and just hand them out (you might get a good deal for a large "club" quantity) with lots of extra pickups!

 

Allow O-ring fronts (or not) and, if the rear tires are junk, allow a spec rear slip-on silicone tire, then don't touch the cars except at the track! All other parts (except, maybe, guide pins and body screws) must stay with the cars. Pick-up adjustments and scoring the motor brushes would be about the only tuning/mods that one could do at the track! 

 

Appoint a "Sergeant at Arms" to collect all of the cars at the end of the race in a locked box, then bring them early to the race meets and hand out the cars again, your car identified by the unique (model or paint) T-Jet or Dash body of your choice.

 

Race them until they start to slow down and then clean and fresh them all up as a club! Years of evenly matched fun - potentially, new winners! If your car is a "pig", you get to swap with one of the unused cars!

 

Keep it in the slot,

 

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

Lenny said all parts are shipped now , it took 4 weeks longer to attach Electricals on bottom. When arrive he will have the Balance to put togeather. so should be soon.

SJJ


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Posted 27 December 2013 - 12:29 PM

I am not so sure that all of the NOS HO chassis are gone. We keep hearing rumors of 2 old shipping (literally, from a ship) containers that were never unloaded that are full to the top with boxes of new T-jet chassis. Maybe these rumors just help keep the prices of the NOS T-jets as low as they are because they are still desirable, particularly the old "truck" chassis with the big wheels (supposed to be straighter and tougher than the average car chassis). But, every once in a while, someone opens a case and sells them off, so ...

 

Still, I am looking forward to the Dash chassis standardizing the parts, magnets and arms - it would be the basis of a great spec racing class, even if the chassis went up to $25. New manufacturing techniques make the magnets and magnet matching a non-issue and it costs the same to wind an arm to a "good" recipe (think "Mean Green") as to live with the slower, old T-jet spec arms, just as long as they are all exactly the same!

 

Keep it in the slot,

 

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 09:43 AM

AJ,

I was messing with a calculator. a box off 100 Chassis is only 2 1/4 tall X 7 5/8 deep X 11 1/2 inches wide. Say a Trailer is 40 ft X 7 ft hign X 7 wide.

I come up with about 1,100,000 Chassis per container. WOW lets find them.

SJJ


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 11:10 AM

Does this Dash chassis/car use "magna-traction"?

Just wondering if there is a market for a brass pan for it.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 12:01 PM

SJJ,

 

That's why I think it is just a rumor. I personally think there are, maybe, 20 boxes stashed away in the corners of closed hardware stores. Some people stashed them away for notions of collectible value. I remember seeing what was probably a gross of the T-jet Good Humor Ice Cream Trucks. I won't say who it is because he is probably releasing them slowly on e-Bay.

 

Mike,

 

The Dash chassis is a re-creation of the T-Jet chassis, intended for full forward and backward compatibility with T-jet parts - no Magna-Traction.

 

You are describing the old T-jet brass pans made by AJ's (and other companies) back in the day. Since they reside under the chassis (and are conductive), it requires lifting them up in the air and using bigger tires. I have not seen any clubs that established a racing class with an underside pan being the hot ticket but they might be out there...

 

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 12:56 PM

I can't wait to carve one up to build a gravity car.....  If he uses his usual magnets they'll be on par or better than most vintage Super II's.

 

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 01:26 PM

 

Mike,

 

 You are describing the old T-jet brass pans made by AJ's (and other companies) back in the day. Since they reside under the chassis (and are conductive), it requires lifting them up in the air and using bigger tires. I have not seen any clubs that established a racing class with an underside pan being the hot ticket but they might be out there...

 

 

 

AJ

A.J.,

FWIW, as far as HO stuff, you don't have to post like I just fell off of the turnip truck.  LOL

 

Joel Pennington and Mark Rosenwinkel use to come in the hobby shop I worked in to get TCP and  Bronze Man parts, along with K & K armatures,

and I traveled with them to Michigan HOPRA races, and was moved up to Pro before I got interested in other things.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 01:52 PM

Is a turnip truck a short-haul version of the banana boat?

Great news for the HO folks. Wonder if you could just mass produce 3d printed chassis?

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 07:58 AM

Does this Dash chassis/car use "magna-traction"?

Just wondering if there is a market for a brass pan for it.

I think with the strength of the magnets we now have, that brass pans will never make a comeback unless a minimum ride height rule is in play. My best old builds with Quadralams and Super II magnets get their clocks cleaned by the least of my Fray cars. I always liked brass pan TJets, but their time has passed.


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 02:46 PM

Mike,

 

I apologize profusely. I have never heard you utter one word one way or another about HO stuff - I figured you had no use for them. I just didn't know about your history so thanks for the update.

 

Racing is racing. Some people HAVE to run the fastest classes, some HAVE to the be fastest in any class, some HAVE to win. I like merely being in the hunt; maybe somewhere in the top third of the pack in a very close 15 man T-jet race is a fine evening of racing. If you want a test of your finesse and racecraft, the pancake motor classes and gravity classes will be a fine challenge for any racer.

 

That's why I find these Dash cars a potential national class if a standard set of rules are created (look at the rules for the FRHO Johnny Lightning Spec class for a good starting point) and the quality control of the arms and other running parts are good and don't escalate with each new version (I feel that has been a down side of the whole G-jet concept corrupted by the very people who created the concept, again, just my opinion).

 

These Dash cars won't make any commercial track owners rich but, if one had an HO track, someone could buy a car off the wall and immediately compete with results reflecting their weekly improving driving skill level and a chance to move to the front without a huge outlay of cash. That is what captures a lot of new racers, IMO.

 

Keep it in the slot (you'll have more fun and may acquire more friends than enemies),

 

AJ


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 03:43 PM

Mike,

 

I apologize profusely. I have never heard you utter one word one way or another about HO stuff - I figured you had no use for them. I just didn't know about your history so thanks for the update.

 

NBD.

 

They moved me up to Pro (or Expert ??) after I finished (2nd or) 3rd to Kim Bartholomew, and possibly one of his sidekicks, at a race at Steve Brown's house.

 

I drifted out, getting involved with competitive Co-rec volleyball.

 

Way more girls, although the sister of the Bronzeman's right hand man, was "a little bit of OK". LOL


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:14 PM

Girls and volleyball are a dangerous combination. LOL

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:23 PM

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These Dash cars will be great for retro style cars. The blue one above in the middle is an Auto World car. It will have all bushings to straighten it out.

Dennis, LANDSHARK has an improved version of the classic Tjet handling pan available from Lucky Bob , Ebay or PM me.

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So what is faster ? A retro Tjet/Dash or a Fray spec racer?  Could be close.  The retro car has an advantage with pan, lexan body and a low ohm, more powerful motor, so choice of track is important. A track with lot of straights will kill the 16 ohm Fray cars.

The retro HO cars are a hoot with modern controllers.


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:12 AM

Interesting, Al. I never built what I'd consider a state of the art pro-type car back in the day. It would be interesting indeed to see how the two different approaches stack up head to head on a variety of layouts. I'd agree that tracks biased to long straights would play to the hot motored cars. We are waiting with curiosity to see where ther Dash chassis fits into the racing picture. My guess is that they will find a home, but not necessarily in all TJet classes.
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Posted 09 February 2014 - 01:26 PM

The T-Dash Chassis are now trickling out to the Public from the Three distributors (ie- JAG Hobbies, Slots~N~Stuff, and Tom Stumpf).

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Note the Comparo pic above shows Prototype Top, and Production Chassis below...

 

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Here's a couple of pix of the final Production chassis (not the prototype with wider tires/wheels).

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:13 PM

They have shipped..... if you got on "The List" early. I waz gone on a travel quest last week so mine comes next week.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:14 PM

You can bet they will be better than the Auto World and Playing Mantis cars. Oh , such a low bar!

I cant wait to check one out and I cannot wish them well enough with this endeavor, something like 10 K units! .  :good: 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:32 PM

I was lucky enough to get one last weekend at the B,B slot car show for 12.00. I did not get to run it on the track but I did run it next to a new JL chassis and it was totally diffrent in rpm and smooth . Two thumbs up ... Now to break in the gears.
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:29 PM

FYI, my T-Dash chassis finally arrived today from JAG.....

 

OW !....I've learned alot about the T-Dash Chassis during Break-in and tuning.

OK, where should I begin ? First off, I think Dan Cashmer has a CAT ! As after taking the chassis out of the bag it came in, I noted what appeared to be fine cat fur stuck to gears on the top plate and elsewhere. But that's just a funny observation :)
I added a guide pin and set the chassis on my set up block, and noted the contact patches of the Pick-up shoes, and they weren't flat, they were nose tip down only, so thats some tuning that needs addressed if you want to make yours get good current flow. I then touched the PU's to my power source and observed the motor running, it had a noisey gear train and pulsated a bit, but this was to be expected, as NOS T-Jets will sometimes be like this as well when new. Next up was to open her up, and examine, and then swap around the magnets, as all that have been shipped so far, have the mags Backwards ! Ok, then I removed all internals and examined the chassis for fit and plastic flash, which there was some at the rear near the front of the crown gear where Dan shaved the plastic to make clearance for the Crown which musta been rubbing. A very sharp blade cleaned up the hanging CHAD ! I also noted the comm brushes hung up a little in their bores, and I addressed some flash in there, although the brushes left alot to be desired(more on that later). I've also noted that Dan used a Dremel grinder up front under the axle/above the guide pin, probably to gain clearance there as well, as the course splines in the center of the axle were likely grinding on the chassis floor ? Oh yeah, another observation was, the magnets are VERY loose in their pockets and could stand to be shimmed. And something else about these DASH magnets, THESE happened to be the Roughest CAST Magnets I've ever seen come from DASH, as they usually are VERY well cast/smooth, and fit most Aurora T-Jets perfectly....more on that later. Just to to be picky, I noted the rear wheel/hubs were Not pressed all the way onto to their Axle, but they were on 3/4 of the way, so thats no biggie. OKaaaay, now time to oil her up, and set her in my Break-in box and let her smooth the rough edges off the gear train etc.
Let me go back now and talk about the Comm Brushes, and WHY They Suck ! First off the T-Dash Brush (leaf) Springs don't exactly end in the V that is normally associated with T-Jet Brush Springs. On the T-Dash, the Brush spring ends in a tiny little "u" and thats what is under the brush from the bottom. The T-Dash Brushes themselves greatly resemble the JL/AW T-Jet brushes- before AW redesigned them a year or so ago and they now have two flat sides(which is rather pointless of AW to do). ANYway, the V notch in the T-Dash brush bottom does NOT fit the little "u" on the Brush spring very well, and right there it's not really doing a good job of either locking the brush from spinning or making good contact, PLUS the fact I noted the Domed Brushes appeared canted in their bores when the comm wasn't in contact with them. Now let me fast forward a bit, and the chassis has gone thru the break-in phase and is ready for formal test driving. So here she goes, off and running as I gun the car around the track- Go speed Racer - Go ! She ran pretty nice, and I was pleasantly surprised by those skinny little tires, they didn't want to pop off the rims, and Did give adequate traction. All in all, the chassis ran about like a Good running NOS Aurora T-Jet chassis. It wasn't extremely fast, just average...so now after about 50 laps of running, I stopped here, and it was time to start tuning.
 Tuning the T-Dash Chassis. I wanted to concentrate on three areas, 1) Gear Train, 2) Comm Brushes, & 3) Magnets. With the(Top Plate) gear train, I found some roughness and binding, although alot of that was lessened after a good break-in and lapping, but I also wanted to swap out Idler gears and see if that had any effect. Sooo, I grabbed a bunch of idler gears I had, some NOS Aurora, some lightened, and some Nylon ones. What I found out very quickly was, the T-Dash top plate is very fussy about idler gear selection, and many of the ones I had, were too tight to even insert ! But, not all gears are created equally, and I found several that fit and were very smooth and took away ALL excess gear meshing noise. Now onto the Comm brushes, when I first examined them, I noted that the dome face had a rough casting seam on one side of it's face, and so I proceeded to sand that off and polish on paper. But after running break-in and then 50 laps, when I re-examined the brush faces, I noted they were wearing only one side of the dome face, ie- lopsided. Well that's where I drew the line, and why I said they were junk. Out they came and in went a new set of Wizzard E85 brushes which I broke in properly, and then test drove.... YowZa ! The T-Dash was a whole NEW Beast, like I just added a SuperCharger ! Now the current was flowing very well to the comm face, and it showed ! And this by FAR is the best tuning part swap I can suggest. BTW- tuning the Pick-Up shoes also made a GREAT BIG Dif, and is a must. Although personally, I'm not that fond of DASH PU Shoes, they maybe great for racing, but a little too delicate and thin for all around use, and I've noted they can get bent out of shape rather easily, and also pop-off quite easily as well. Alrighty then, onto the magnets. DASH Magnets are some of the best ceramic magnets out there at reasonable prices. But they fit waaay too loose in the T-Dash chassis pockets, and should be at least shimmed so they don't rattle around. But this got me thinking, as we know, the JL/AW Magnets are slightly different in shape, and usually are too tight to slip right into an Aurora T-Jet without a little sanding. So how would these tighter magnets fit and work in a T-Dash ? Answer- They Work and Fit Perfectly ! They pop right in as if they were made for the chassis, they fit better than in any other chassis I've tried them in, and that includes JL/AW Chassis. Anyway, I have matched a dozen sets really close, and popped a nice set in the chassis and will leave them there, as when tested- they out performed the DASH magnets that came supplied with my Chassis. Which oddly, were the Roughest Casting of Any Dash magnets I've even seen, and I own about 30 sets of DASH Magnets ! ...In conclusion, the final Tuned T-Dash of mine is AWESOME.... it went from power similar to a slightly above average NOS Aurora T-Jet, to NOW> the Power of an Aurora Tuff Ones that's been re-geared to the 9 tooth pinion, ie- IT's fast, but lacks a little top end on a 21' Straightaway (Dragstrip).
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:00 PM

BTW- Dan Cashmer JUST Told me, the material used in all the plastic parts is a delrin/glass fibre mix.

Which IMHO is a VERY  tough plastic alloy !


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:09 PM

(I feel that has been a down side of the whole G-jet concept corrupted by the very people who created the concept, again, just my opinion).

 

What happened to corrupt this form of racing A.J.?

 

I purchased a G-Jet and it was the only car that I kept after I sold all of my HO stuff.  I was hoping that I could go to a race one day and still be competitive since this was a spec class.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 07:53 PM

John,

 

It depends on when you bought it.

 

Originally, there was a light grey chassis, over a dozen screw-on weight combinations and silicone-over-sponge rear tires, all approved G-Jet national class parts. We bought 6 new cars matched by BSRT for a Scorpion track and raced them with snap-on hardbody LeMans type GT bodies in three man teams for a 12 hour Enduro. There were only 6 cars allowed in the place on that day but lots of spare parts were brought. You had to start the race with the running gear parts that came on the car, essentially, just adjust the pickups and go. The teams had 45 minutes to adjust the pickups and practice.

 

I think only two teams changed pickups through the whole race (which means you didn't have to). At the end, the cars were just getting broken in. Projected out, that is a LOT of 24 minute races! This was an awesome car and quite a bargain at $60 to $65 dollars.

 

That was years ago. Since then, the fine folks at BSRT have introduced improved armatures, slip-on silicone tires (I am a fan of that change) and improved motor magnets that seem to pull the car down to the rails quite a bit harder than the older cars. Suddenly, these long-lasting super-equal cars are now obsolete because the newer ones are quite a bit faster.

 

So, one cannot likely compete with the older, well broken-in G-Jet against a newer one.

 

So, IMO, BSRT kind of betrayed those who wanted a "fixed" class of racing. I cannot blame them because they are losing revenue if all racers are buying are replacement pickups, tires, gears and endbells. I hope you can see my point that by changing the rear tires (again, a good change) and the "upgrading" the magnets, it is impossible to ever "go back" again. I suppose one could just change the pickups, rear tires, magnets, armature, endbell, and put fresh gears in it and you would have nearly the performance of the new generation (unless they made some changes to the chassis, too!). I think buying all of those parts separately would be more expensive than just buying a new car already assembled (with fresh, not ovaled axle holes in the chassis).

 

Please pardon the thread drift but the question was asked...and anyone with more exact knowledge of the extent of the changes to the "spec" class can chime in if I am wrong.

 

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 02:44 PM

NEWS FLASH ! Just minutes ago, Dan Cashmer(DASH) announced Online, that within a year, he will introduce a Copy of the Aurora Slimline Chassis !!!!


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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:30 PM

Are Dash chassis legal for a Fray build and if so what is the consensus on using them for one? I have always wanted to build a couple Fray cars just for the fun of it, but buying $1500 worth of setup tools for cars I would never race never made sense to me. 


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Posted 02 March 2014 - 11:42 PM

No Matt, the DASH Chassis has NOT been approved to be Fray eligible, yet. One thing is, the armature is a triple lam and rated at between 14-15 ohm. While Fray cars need to have a double lam and be 16ohm or higher.

BTW- the DASH chassis material is a Delrin mixed with glass fiber, and is slightly heavier than an Aurora Nylatron Chassis.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 06:21 PM

FWIW, while it is not legal for Fray class racing, I built a Fray spec car complete with a 17 ohm Aurora arm. I showed it to Rick Phillis and was OK'd to run it in the Thursday IROC races at the Fray last week. Other than the black chassis, it was unremarkable in that it was no different in performance than an Aurora-based car. That is a good thing and may be a good reason to consider them as an alternative source of chassis, at least in some clubs and groups. The car was built using the stock chassis tub, gear plate and gears, magnets, springs and shoes, gear plate clip. That's more of the car than is used than an Aurora. 


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