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Review: AMT 1968 Plymouth Road Runner hardtop A821/849-202 modified reissue


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#1 MG Brown

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:44 PM

Round 2 November 2013 modified reissue of AMT 1/25th 1969 Plymouth GTX hardtop. Skill level 2, 2-in1 Stock and Street/Custom. Pad-printed Goodyear redline and raised white letter tires (reversible- printed both sides). Molded in white (or yellow- indicated by sticker on package), and clear. 1 chrome plated tree. Small decal sheet. All parts trees sealed in individual plastic bags.
 
Box:
 
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Folks that were in the modeling hobby in the late 1960's will recognize this is a tip of the hat to the box art style used in 1968 and 1969 for many of AMT's kits.
 
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Instructions:
 
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Kit notes:

This kit builds the rare 1968 4-speed 425 hp 426 CID Hemi Roadrunner; total production units were less than 500. The kit has options to build the coupe (pillared) or hardtop (non pillared) models. I was not able to verify, but I believe that the air grabber induction and air cleaner included in the kit was not an option in 1968. The round street Hemi air cleaner (so called "chrome dome") found in the Revell 1967 Dodge Charger kit would be more correct- but would still need the black and orange "hemi head" decal as shown in the 1:1 engine photo above. IIRC, one of Fred Cady's Dodge Coronet sheets has this decal included. (*Note just found the correct air cleaner AND both air cleaner decals in the Revell 1967 Dodge Coronet R/T)

The "street" version engine offers the dual cross-ram manifold and individual chromed air cleaners or chromed velocity stacks. I would have liked to see an option for the more common 335 hp 383 CID "Road Runner Engine". The popular 440 "six pack" option was not available until 1969.
 
I feel that the styled chrome wheels (optional on 1:1 car) in this kit would be unusual for a factory stock Road Runner coupe- they were more often seen with the standard steel wheels and plain dog-dish hubcaps (available from The Modelhaus or in the AMT Gotham City police car kit). The street/custom version uses plated modular wheels that probably would look better with the centers painted aluminum. I do remember seeing late 60's and early '70's period Road Runners and GTX's with this style wheel- so they seem to be a good choice for the street/custom version. The kit includes 4 pre decorated tires that are reversible for red stripe or Goodyear raised white letters.
 
No decal or painting guide is provided for the often seen optional black hood trim (shown on box art).

Careful painting is needed with flat black, dark metallic grey and transparent colors to make the plated grille and taillight assemblies look realistic. The instructions call for the front turn signal/parking lights to be painted amber when on the real car they were frosted clear with amber bulbs. Side marker lights need bare-metal foil and transparent red and amber paint to appear realistic. The headlights are molded into the grille and plated. Again the Revell 1967 Coronet comes to the rescue here with plated headlight buckets and clear lenses that could enhance your Road Runner.

Looks like this kit plus one of the Revell 67 "B-bodies" would yield one killer model with the Revell kit adding plated exterior door handles, additional engine details, etc.

Somewhat unusual is the inclusion in the kit of left AND right outside rear view mirrors in the "factory stock" style on the chrome tree. I feel it was somewhat unusual to see a mid-sized car on the dealer's lot with both outside mirrors in this era. Chrysler's "B-body" cars had exposed wipers, but in this AMT kit, the windshield wipers are molded to the body and are not even called out for detailing in the instructions. Several of the Chrysler Corp B-body cars kitted by Revell include separate wipers so if you'd wish to add this detail- the parts are readily available.
 
The interior has the plain-jane standard bench seats and floor mounted 4-speed late production Hurst shifter. Rear seat is a separate part so it would be easy to leave it out for a drag racing version. The dash has soft engraving and it would have been a plus to have gauge and interior trim decals on the very small sheet rather than 4 different types of license plates.
 
The decal sheet includes the period Plymouth performance heart/arrow graphic commonly seen on Plymouth race cars (including Richard Petty's NASCAR Roadrunner at the Daytona "500"). "Road Runner" badging on sides and rear are represented by colorful decals.
 
There has been some comment about the shape of the rear window and the taillights. Both look good to me and I am not sure what the complaining is about. There was an optional trim piece between the tail lights (actually a Satellite 4-door part) that was available late in the 1968 production but most that I recall were equipped with the plain appearing Belvedere tail lights that are in the kit.
 
Keeping in mind that this kit had its origins in the ~1983 vintage 1969 GTX hardtop kit- I feel that AMT/Round 2 did an acceptable job with it. Offering the standard wheels and a 383 engine option would have made this a certain candidate for kit of the year.

Kit tree, decal and other photos to be posted later.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:21 PM

Another cool kit.

The styled wheels showing would be the optional 14 x 6 Magnum 500 wheel.

Like you said round chrome air cleaner for 68 .. the cold air hood came in 69. The true Air Grabber was the vacuum operated. 
 
I don't think the 68 had the chrome 'box tips' as standard equipment ... just 'turn down' tailpipes.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 11:09 PM

I don't think the 68 had the chrome 'box tips' as standard equipment ... just 'turn down' tailpipes.


I thought this was correct, but couldn't verify it. Thanks for the input.
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Posted 20 December 2013 - 11:30 PM

Friend ordered a new real one in 68, and had these Magnum 500 wheels!


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:58 AM

Regarding the hood and the tail(trunk) filler panel:

This mid-year trim change document could be helpful to keep it straight for builders. 

 

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Notes:

Instruction  page 12 shows the 69 first gen 'air grabber' underhood box and air cleaner.

 

The 68 RR came with standard steel wheels not the vented cop car wheels. Also a different style/shape hub cap than on the cop car wheels.

 

The cop car hub caps were much flatter and vented .. were called the scarce little "leaky dog dishes".

 

Think ... :secret: 'look he just went in the diner' :spiteful: ... 'how bad do you want them' :dirol:.

 

The fact that is promoted as a "Customizing Model Car Kit" is a big stretch.

 

The only Custom parts are the CrossRam, stacks, stack w/filter, extra set of wheels and Red Lines ....Not what I would call a true "build it two ways" kit.


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 01:29 AM

That's a great illustration- Thanks Bob!
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Posted 22 December 2013 - 12:17 PM

Ross Gibson offers a 383 "Road Runner Engine" cast in resin if you wish to modify this kit for the standard engine.

 

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Gibson engine kits are unpainted and may need additional parts such as wiring to complete. A number of online sources carry Gibson engines, but please check first with your local hobby shop.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:22 PM

The Feb. 2014 issue of "Scale Auto" magazine has an article titled "Tim Boyd's Guide to Mopar Muscle V-8's" that should be interesting reading for Mopar Modelers and those wishing to find a 383 to swap into this kit.

 

The article mentions that the Revell 1968 and 1969 Dart GTS kits (possibly the "Hemi Dart" also) have a nice 383 engine that it would seem would be a natural for the 1968 Road Runner. These kits are probably about the same price as the resin engine mentioned above (plus you have a whole bunch of spare parts).

 

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Just need to find the right "Road Runner Engine" air cleaner decal and you're set.

 

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:54 PM

Here is the decal sheet from this kit and a pic of the new double sided tires.

 

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The Decal not only has a protective piece of paper over the decal itself, but it is sealed in a clear plastic bag. The first time I have ever seen this level of protection.

 

In addition to instrument panel decals, it would have been appreciated to have this decal on the sheet.

 

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The double sided tires are sharply pad printed- which would you prefer?

 

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:02 PM

So, I wonder if Sonny & Cher received royalties from Plymouth for the use of "The Beat Goes On"

 

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 01:29 PM

So, I wonder if Sonny & Cher received royalties from Plymouth for the use of "The Beat Goes On"

 

I'm sure some money changed hands somewhere.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:20 PM

The tires look great. :good:

 

L60x15 is questionable as far as the size call-out but it sure beats hand painting the white letters. :heat:

 

On the decals, the air cleaner decal will be a 'stretch' on the rectangular part. It is great to see the "running" and "standing" bird included.  :sun_bespectacled:


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:43 PM

 It is great to see the "running" and "standing" bird included.  :sun_bespectacled:

 

And Round 2 was thoughtful enough to include extras of the body emblem decals. Registration could be better though.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:06 PM

Meep, Meep. to that :heart:


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 01:13 AM

I just KNEW someone had to have the gauge faces for this kit- and here they are!

 

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The seller on eBay is "bestmodelcarparts" and they have a number of panel detail decals and license plate decals. These were $2.69 (free shipping) and include a radio decal.

 

*Note - the reissue kit that is the subject of this review is molded in off white or yellow (depending on the kit that you buy- color noted on packaging). I do not know what version of the kit was molded in the tan color shown above.


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 08:24 AM

1968 Road Runner, the infamous Richard Petty vinyl top car, after being black flagged Richard jumped out of the car and was wailing on the roof with a hammer to try to fix.  I just did a quick search on 'how to vinyl top' , sure enough Testors has a 2 part vinyl top paint .  :good:

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 02:09 PM

I have the 1968 Petty car on my radar as a "to build" from this kit. Not sure which version to build as there were a number of interesting variations tried by the Pettys during the 1968 season.


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 03:19 PM

How does one fix a vinyl roof with a hammer? :unknw:   :laugh2:  :dash2:

 

BTW: those cars ran 'factory glass' windshields.  :ph34r:


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 10:10 AM

I seem to remember some race team using a vinyl top to hide acid-dipping.  Maybe Donohue's Penske Trans Am Camaro? 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:56 PM

I seem to remember some race team using a vinyl top to hide acid-dipping.  Maybe Donohue's Penske Trans Am Camaro? 

 

Yup to hide the buckling  .. then you could use a lighter hammer too. :laugh2:

Seems a bit redundant though ... remove smooth metal weight to add textured vinyl weight.

If it was only glued down only around the edge it could enhance aero. ....  'leave the dome light out' :D


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:20 PM

So, I wonder if Sonny & Cher received royalties from Plymouth for the use of "The Beat Goes On"
 
https://www.youtube....e&v=jwB8ph7VAXw

 
How about the "Lemon Pipers" then? :shok:
They were picked over their main Buddah Records competitor the 1910 Fruitgum Company   :laugh2:



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