Solder pencil/iron recommendation?
#1
Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:12 AM
Prefer a pencil style over a gun style if possible.
Suggestions...brand names/where to purchase would be helpful.
Thanks
#2
Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:23 AM
The Hako brand seems to be the most-preferred units these days. Not "cheap", but a good investment.
However, the first 4 or 5 retro chassis I built were done with a $16 Hobby Lobby unit. The most important thing is to have one that puts out enough heat that you can heat the part quickly.
#3
Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:57 AM
I have the Hakko 601. Adjustable heat control built into the handle. I use a 1/8" tip. It comes with a 3/16" tip. I have not run into anything that it could not solder even steel guide tongues to brass plate with spacers. Only complaint is the power cord is kind of thick. I quickly found that it is ignored and not a big deal.
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#4
Posted 19 February 2014 - 11:21 AM
How about giving the guy wattage and temp requirements so he can pick hiw own?
The suggestions above are very good ones. What will you be soldering? Flexi is a big difference compared to building chassis for retro...
Don't go too cheap or low wattage/temp. It won't work and will cause great frustration in the long run...
#5
Posted 19 February 2014 - 11:52 AM
I"d go with the Hakko! DON'T try to go cheap on your iron or you'll create a lot of frustration! It's like any tool---buy the BEST you can and you'll never regret it!!
#6
Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:03 PM
Hakko has an adjustable set up with the tip/handle on the end of a cord going to the base. The base has a digital display that shows the temp of the tip. I buld my controllers with it, if I need more heat that my standard setting, i just crank it up.
It is model number fx 888d. I got it at Fries electronics in Ornage County, but you can buy it at any good electronics store.
John Andersen
DR Racing Products
#7
Posted 19 February 2014 - 03:09 PM
I would suggest if you are going to purchase Hakko to buy direct at http://www.hakkousa....ucts.asp?CID=49
If you want to pay retail Fry's does carry a limited supply of the Hakko product but why pay retail?
I've seen a savings buying direct and if you reside in Sothern California shipping is free!
They now carry a couple new irons, the 508 40W at about $15.00 and the 503 60W at around $14.00 but these are not offered with the ceramic heating element.
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#8
Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:34 PM
One goal is to heat to 1000 degrees F for chassis building. The OLD std was the UNGAR screw together 45W iron. Since the ungar was bought out by Cooper Tools, that line is a little harder to find, but always available at McMaster-Carr mail-order...they rarely list brands, but read between the lines. I have not used a soldering gun since 1964.
The best ungar replacement has been the Hakko 455 (now available) at Fry's electronics cheap. The huge Hakko 456 is fuctional, but not very toolbox friendly.
Either used with the accessory heat control work great.
Most manufacturers make base control/pencil irons that are lighter AND more expensive. Finding the right heavy duty tip can be the worst issue in setting up a great work station. I also keep a small torch on hand to float several parts at once when the iron cannot do the full job. Tack first, then float them all together.
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#9
Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:10 PM
I always used a Ungar for chassis just because it has a wide tip and transfers heat fast but since I got my Hakko FX601 with the T19-D65 tip it does it all from turned down on electronic stuff to KILL mode hot for chassis. Do not go cheap.... as said it will cause more problems than the savings are worth!
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#10
Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:33 PM
This is who I bought mine from. Be sure to get the iron holder with the woven brass mesh to clean the tip, I stopped used the wet sponge a couple of years ago when I kept messing up my old Unger tips. The brass mesh is much better.
Mark Horne
SERG - www.slotcarenduro.club
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#11
Posted 02 April 2014 - 09:18 PM
#12
Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:01 PM
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#13
Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:01 PM
Forget all you have seen and heard, go to ebay and look for a cheap China iron. 60 watt, uses HAKKO tips, adjustable on handle, very small and under $15 delivered to you door. Nothing comes close to this deal!!!! NIce soft cord, very hot! This one blows everything else away. I will find link to actual Buy It Now for you......
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#14
Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:05 PM
#15
Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:20 PM
http://www.ebay.com/...=item1c2e8fd94a
That's the one to replace anything we have been using for 30 years. I found it, bought it and it rocks. Nothing comes close for the price. Uses 888 HAKKO station tips.
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#16
Posted 26 April 2014 - 01:56 PM
#17
Posted 26 April 2014 - 03:22 PM
That's the same response I get from everyone that has bought one. I bought a couple more for spares in case they disappear on Ebay. I have been using one for a few months now and so far, so good. Look around the Ohio retro scene and you will see them everywhere. The other big plus, the cord is nice and pliable to make them real comfy to use............
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#18
Posted 09 August 2014 - 11:22 PM
You guys are all a bunch of wimps! Real he-men use only 550w American Beauty soldering irons.
Actually, they're of no real use on the slot cars themselves - but they're holy terrors for installing or repairing track braid. I should know, I have one...
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#19
Posted 10 August 2014 - 06:38 AM
Hermit, with that iron, you ought to be able to pile all your chassis parts on the jig & solder everything at once. It probably works well for radiator tanks too.
I intend to live forever! So far, so good.
#20
Posted 10 August 2014 - 07:40 AM
I really like my Rgeo Ungar. Tips are easy to find, easy to replace. I don't know if Rick has any left, though.
Paul Wolcott
#21
Posted 10 August 2014 - 10:57 AM
#22
Posted 13 February 2016 - 08:53 PM
Reviving a old thread but... I have been super pleased with a Hakko 503. It is $15 but works every bit as good as my trusty old Weller handle with the lightbulb style replaceable tip/element and costs less than half of the replacement tip for the Weller!
I use the ED6 tip with the Hakko.
Born to tinker!
#23
Posted 13 February 2016 - 10:07 PM
Rick is right. I've used Ungar since my chassis building days in the '80s, and many of my friends use Hakko models. But those of us who have tried these hot little Chinese models have made the switch!
But, here's another tip (pun intended)
Amazon has just the tips you need, at the price you want, that would make Hakko owners happy, tool! Note: I've seen these tips go in and out of stock, so keep checking.
But, now Amazon has even more to offer. Just search for: 60W 110V Adjustable Temperature Welding Soldering Iron
Choose one of the many irons available that have a blue handle. From there, you can take your choice of tips and accessories.
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#24
Posted 13 February 2016 - 11:34 PM
With the blue handle adjustable soldering iron, you need to keep in mind the dial is in C degrees, not F. I had a real problem with smutz growing on my tip. I reduced to temp from 400 C to 300 F and my tip is shiny and my plastic switch parts don't melt.
John Andersen
DR Racing Products
#25
Posted 14 February 2016 - 12:37 AM
I just ordered a couple of these! Might as well get two they're so cheap!! If they work as good as you say I'll set them up with two different tips and use them for wiring and chassis building!!
Thanks!!
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