19 replies to this topic

[Gator Bob]

Builder, date, and part of the country these cars may have been raced at.

 

Thanks...

 

4 1/2" wheelbase

3.10" wide

7/8" guide lead

 

 

 

 

 

 

[slotcarone]

Interesting front wheel mounting there. It doesn't look like it has ever been used.

[Gator Bob]

Yes .. agreed, Mike, the unique floppy front end should be a good tell tale of who the builder and maybe a time stamp.

Works perfectly smooth.

 

I don't think it ever had a motor mounted in it.

[Bill from NH]

Pans and droparm are Parma brass pieces. That chassis has a number of idiosyncrasies, none of which gives a clue as to who might have built it. 

[slotcarone]

Bob, some info on where it came from or how you got it may help identify the builder.

[tonyp]

Looks like a west coast design. Aguirre and a few others used a front axle setup like that..

[S.O. Watt]

Stockers weren't raced in LA after late '69 so I don't think its from SoCal. Looks to be maybe about a '71 or later build with that straight motor box leg.

[TSR]

From the front-end design and wheel size, at the very least a 1973 build from a guy who still needs a hotter iron tip and a square.

[Gator Bob]

Pans and droparm are Parma brass pieces. That chassis has a number of idiosyncrasies, none of which gives a clue as to who might have built it. 

Thanks Bill

 

Bob, some info on where it came from or how you got it may help identify the builder.

Came in this box.

 

 

Looks like a west coast design. Aguirre and a few others used a front axle setup like that..

Thx tony.

 

Stockers weren't raced in LA after late '69 so I don't think its from SoCal. Looks to be maybe about a '71 or later build with that straight motor box leg.

Good pointer, thanks.

Texas?? I really can't remember where the shipper was.

 

From the front-end design and wheel size, at the very least a 1973 build from a guy who still needs a hotter iron tip and a square.

73 and up... ?

Not a Weller gun?... lol

[S.O. Watt]

I met with Bob Cotton and Joel last fall.

BTW, How did you end up with his box?

[TSR]

73 and up... ?

 

Due to the general architecture and especially the front axle. No one would have done this before 1973; just about everyone used an axle tube. Wire front axles had been abandoned by 1968, and came back only in 1973 onwards.

 

Not a Weller gun?... lol

The solder is not flowing on quite a few joints, meaning that the iron was too cold or the builder did not heat the surrounding metal enough.
Also the thing is really not that "straight", denoting an amateur job. Someone likely gave this to Bob and Bob simply never ran it.

[Gator Bob]

On EvilBay back when I lived in Jersey, that would make it over 10 years. Spoke to Bob about it like 2 or 2 1/2 years ago, he said it was Not All his.

PM me Tom if you need his phone #.

It all sits just like you see in the pics.

[Pablo]

It looks like a nice chassis to me, Bob.  It has some unique design features and I'll bet it would handle great built up in a complete car.  So what if the solder joints are not all optically perfect ?  Not everybody re-solders each joint three times like Mike Steube.  I'll bet it is hard to break.  Only one way to find out which joints are weak and which are strong......   The front wheels would have to be the exact correct size and type for the front axle design to work right, and they would have to be placed just so.  That is my opinion.  I wasn't there in 1971 and I don't pretend to know anything except what I have learned from my own building and racing experiences

[Gator Bob]

Thanks and I agree Pablo,

 

  While it's not an Owl Chump style it's a sweet platform to give one a run for the money. The way the front axle 'rocks to the right ride height' is very cool. 

Think that Long John 'B' can or a 'C' can and I have a the NOS painted MAC Merc shown in the top right of the box and a Laguna Champion (Thanks Rick) body choices, Faas gear and modern tires like Slick7 fronts and ProTrack Daytona rears would make a nice fast car and a nice 'looker' too (if the chassis gets tumbled). 

 

Could be a 'what if' Retro-Pro Stock/Car with a P/S Big Dog and the IRRA taller body.

[Bill from NH]

Bob, I doubt that motor box is big enough to fix a B-can. It looks like it'd have to be a C-can or smaller. Do you have the Faas spur you need for car assembly? If not, I'll look around my old ones.

[Gator Bob]

Thanks for the tip and gear offer Bill.

I think the 'short' B might fit ... I'll have to check it out.

[Gator Bob]

You are correct Mr. Bill.

 

It don't fit ....

[Samiam]

Bob,

 Whatever motor you use it has got to have Elephant Ears to be correct.

 

Anyone re-popping EEs? Would love to build up a MURA Gp20 Red Can with a pair.

[Gator Bob]

Bob,

 Whatever motor you use it has got to have Elephant Ears to be correct.

 

Anyone re-popping EEs? Would love to build up a MURA Gp20 Red Can with a pair.

 

Got you covered on a pair

[Samiam]

 

Got you covered on a pair

Excellent !

 

         Thank You.