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#1 Cheater

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:01 PM

When I hear the term "rear steer", this isn't what I think of...

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=612677572154862

 

Anone have an explanation for the electronic bits mounted mid-chassis?

 

Here's the developer's WEBSITE for the Prototype Project electronic rear-wheel-steering Hornet LPM RS (rear servo).


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:03 PM

Always a better mousetrap.

 

I bet that thing would FLY with a JKHR in it!


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:25 PM

Are you making fun of us again?


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:29 PM

Love the ingenuity, but maybe a little too RC for me.

 

Cheater - Looks like a servo that is activated by a limit switch and or a part present sensor built into the guide flag area. When the flag hits the contact it sends the signal through the ecm (might be labeled something different) and then to the servo.

 

Edit - Watching the video again it appears the sensor is activated by the guide flag nut.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:36 PM

Looks like you're right, Matt.

 

Here's the PDF for the concept, only available in German. Seems to confirm your thinking.

 

Attached File  HORNET_LMP_RS.pdf   905.69KB   25 downloads

 

 


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:17 PM

Thought rear steer was when the guide was mounted behind the front axle.. :wacko2:


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 09:40 PM

That's basically how the Twistamon chassis worked without a servo...



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 09:54 PM

That I did not know


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:39 PM

That was the point of the big outward bent U rails, allowed the car to twist the motorbox. Those cars require pretty strong bracket reinforcing do to all the pressure on the bracket. 

 

Obviously it's not quite as smooth or consistent as a servo LOL 



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:50 PM

Cap,
Never seen it up close .... How do you/they get so much rear steer on dirt?
 
OMG ... On TV the DLMs it looks like the left rear moves forward about 3 inches or more.
 
On asphalt I used to run one stock drilled out and soaked rubber bushing and one hard poly bushing on the lower trailing arms but that was only about 1/2" of deflection.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 12:10 AM

Only latemodels and big block modifieds do that, I believe they actually have a shock that controls it. I don't know a whole lot about them. But at some point they changed from the rearend not moving much and hiking the LF tire in the air to LR moving way ahead and burying the cars on the rf tire.

The cars I run don't rear steer

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 12:35 AM

On asphalt that set-up made the car really loose going in on the brake but with a slight trail brake it rolled the center well and then hammer down big bite coming off. :D

The loose in could be somewhat controlled with less of a tie-down valved shock in the LR and backing up the corner a little using less LR brake bias and less brake pedal on the later part of entry.. :good:

 

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