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[Vay Jonynas]

How many of you fellows race in hardbody NASCAR classes? Stand up and be counted!

And then post your cars here for inspection and concours appraisal.

[gascarnut]

This was mine for the Buena Park TSRF Nascar class while I raced there. Built from the Monogram "lunch box" commemorative kits that had the lighter bodyshell - a big advantage in that series.

[TSR]

This is my Ford Taurus for the same series:



One of the best in the series was this John Kallas-built Ford:

[Tex]

Oh, you NASCAR bohonks are ALL just alike!!

[sameolddoc]

Not I, but I did just return from race directing the initial race in a hardbody series at my local track. (Track owner had to work his "real" job tonight and his wife can run the register, but knows nothing of race directing, so he conned me into coming out to run the show for him.)

Not quite NASCAR, but 1/24 scale coupes and sedans mostly from the '60s and early '70s with a few '56 Chevys thrown in (those old Chevys in the style of the old sportsman racers I watched as a child).

Seven entries, and 7,000 friendly "nerfs" later and we were all rolling with laughter.

When I left they were doing a pick up race for their hardbody jalopies... cut-down brass pan Parma chassis with added bumpers and nerf bars... oh, the carnage.

I'll try to think long enough to bring my camera next time and get a few shots to post.

[n9949y]

There's about 40 guys in Oregon who are racing 1/24 hardbody NASCAR at many different tracks up and down the I-5 corridor every month or more.

OSCAR

NASTE

Pelican Park Speedway



My PPS NASCARs:



At PPS we also race Vintage Stock cars:

[mcseitz]

Chevy's historic re-entry to NASCAR racing with a Monte Carlo fielded by legendary team owner Junior Johnson and driven by leadfoot Chargin' Charlie Glotzbach. Winged Daytonas and Superbirds were ruled out of racing by then, NASCAR was hurting, tracks were bleeding money, there was little excitement until this car showed up in Charlotte for the World 600. The car that saved NASCAR, maybe...

This entry with a resin body and Pla-Fit chassis.

[Vay Jonynas]

Good pics so far! Can the same chassis that you fellows use for your current NASCAR stocks fit your vintage NASCAR stocks?

Built from the Monogram "lunch box" commemorative kits that had the lighter bodyshell...

Monogram "lunch box" kits? Do you have any box pics?

Did you do all the body painting in red, yellow, green, and white or was the car prepainted out of the box?

[gascarnut]

I think they were called the NASCAR 50th Anniversary kits - they were packaed in a tinplate box instead of the normal cardboard. The kits used the lighter, single-piece body from the preassembled cars as far as I understand it.

The kit body was not prepainted. It was simple enough - just red at the rear, yellow at the front, and the rest is all decals.

[BWA]

When I left they were doing a pick up race for their hardbody jalopies...

So-called, because of the time spent picking up pieces after each heat???

[sameolddoc]

So-called, because of the time spent picking up pieces after each heat???

LOL! Actually, the bodies are rather safe, but one guy found out to use steel instead of brass for the nerf bars all around. That soft stuff tends to get a little bent up.

[Mr Dynamic]

Please to make notice of last "Run What U' Brung Race" at Buena Park, SoCal on 11/11/07 - Should be posted soon by Mr Tanaka. Great Race!

Many hardbody NASCARs there. Please show us yer chassis.

Thanks and Good racin',

Capt Zombie

PS: Look out for Zombies

[n9949y]

Pls show us yer chassis, Thanks and Good racin'

Chassis for my Pelican Park NASCAR. Assembled and hinge mounting points attached with Devcon Plastic Welder, a methacrylate adhesive which is a toughened structural adhesive for difficult-to-bond engineered plastics, composites, unprepared metals, ceramics, and dissimilar substrates.

Local body shops use the adhesive to attach dissimilar materials. They require little or no surface preparation and cure at room temperature with no cumbersome heating fixtures required.

Devcon Plastic Welder provides extremely strong, flexible, permanent bonds that have made 1/24 hard body Oregon racing successful

[Vay Jonynas]

Philippe:

This is my Ford Taurus for the same series:

Wow! Nice! Did you paint and decal it yourself?

[alanb]

Here's a picture of a few of my hardbodies



Here's a pic of the chassis out of the car

[Keith Tanaka]

Please to make notice of last "Run What U' Brung Race" at Buena Park, SoCal on 11/11/07 - Should be posted soon by Mr Tanaka. Great Race!

Here's some photos/race results for the recent Second Run What U' Brung race at BPR:

2nd Run what u Brung race

Keith

[mcseitz]

Allan:

Nice to see a Catawba County slot car represented in this line-up. I can spot one a mile away. Hope your tri-county program is still going strong. I find it a bit amusing that the whole world is finally waking up to the fun of racing scratchbuilt inline chassis as featured in D3 and its variations, when ya'll have been doing much the same all along.

And yes, folks, that there is a real live operating drop arm. Don't see those everywhere you go.

I'm tempted to post a photo of my old Champion-chassised Plymouth I used to race in the same area over 35 years ago.

Best Regards,

mcseitz

Seitz-Hall Engineering (Hickory Hobby Center race team circa 1971)

[Vay Jonynas]

Alan!

Cool! I love the drop arm. I think more cars should have them but the philistines don't make them anymore.

And a truck, too!

[Bill from NH]

I'm tempted to post a photo of my old Champion-chassised Plymouth I used to race in the same area over 35 years ago.

Okay, it's time to put up or shut up!

Marcus, we'd love to see photos of your old Plymouth. Please post away!

[idare2bdul]

What amazes me is how well the brass chassis 36D hardbody cars worked. With no offense meant to the TSRF guys, I expected that level of performance. I wasn't racing when the 36Ds were in vogue so surprise, they were pretty quick and handled better than I expected.

Now I have to patch and redo some paint for my November race car. I figure INS might be chasing this car. This one even has sound added.

[alanb]

Hey mcseitz and Foxhound, thanks for the kind words.

I've been racing in and around Hickory since the mid '70s myself. I never knew they made other types of chassis... LOL.

I raced at the Hickory Hobby Center back in those days when it was in the basement. I also ran at Newton as well. Ahh, those were the good ol days.

As far as Tri-County goes it's going pretty good. Summers are usually pretty slow but when cold weather hits they start showing back up for the winter. They added a new drag strip, or more accurately, replaced the old one. A 1/4 mile scale strip that fits inside the big oval.

[KTM300]

What amazes me is how well the brass chassis 36D hardbody cars worked. With no offense meant to the TSRF guys, I expected that level of performance. I wasn't racing when the 36Ds were in vogue so surprise, they were pretty quick and handled better than I expected.

Now I have to patch and redo some paint for my November race car. I figure INS might be chasing this car. This one even has sound added.

A big part of the reason the TSR cars are off the pace is because they have been set up to run under the TSR rules using only TSR parts. I don't think much time has been spent trying to make them work better outside the TSR series so I think there is a lot of room to experiment with them.I really want to run 1/24th scale hardbodies but the 36D thing is a pain. I know Ken has allowed a few different chasis's and motors at his events so if we can tweak the TSR cars a bit I would like to run that if possible.

Now if I can make it to the next hardbody race.

[mcseitz]

OK Bill, here you go! Hiding in a slot box for 35ish years. Rear bumper is in there somewhere.



Glotzbach moved to a Cotton Owens Dodge when Junior Johnson Chose Bobby Allison and his Coke sponsorship to drive the Monte Carlo in '72. Unfortunately for me none of the model companies made a new Dodge Charger so I had to settle for a Plymouth. Other than one big sheet of auto-world stock car decals you were stuck with painting numbers yourself if you wanted to match a specific team. By the looks of things I was no prodigy in this regard. The American Brakeblok decal came later.



Our track owner bought up all the remaining stock of jailhouse champion chassis and 26d 601 and 603 motors after they became obsolete and that's what we were allowed to race. Also a showcase full of iso-cox stuff he must have gotten for a nickel on the dollar. Thinking back, it was probably a pretty good formula for success as his inventory cost was zilch. When those dried up they switched over to scratch-built chassis pretty much like Alan presented. Alan was probably not entirely joking and not alone in stating that's the only chassis he knew existed.

Narrowing the Champion outside frame, cutting holes in the body to hold the frame extensions actually made for a good handling car without moving pans as the body could float along on the four frame extensions. The glob of solder on the left rear was to add weight in the proper corner and to bring the car to it's 6 oz requirement. Nobody had sheet lead or used brass plate.

It looks like something a 14 year old might have built because it was. I like the looks of all the cars in the BP 36D field better. But when I hold this one I can remember the details of about a dozen races it ran and many of the guys it raced against on an oval like few have ever seen.

mcseitz

[idare2bdul]

A big part of the reason the TSR cars are off the pace is because they have been set up to run under the TSR rules using only TSR parts.I don't think much time has been spent trying to make them work better outside the TSR series so I think there is a lot of room to experiment with them.I really want to run 1/24th scale hardbodies but the 36D thing is a pain.I know Ken has allowed a few different chasis's and motors at his events so if we can tweak the TSR cars a bit I would like to run that if possible.Now if I can make it to the next hardbody race.

The 36D things were an absolute blast to run. It was one of the most fun races I've ever been in. I can't remember any of the unmodified motors having a problem and speeds were pretty close. I seem to remember having some rare earth magnets that would fit in a TSRF motor if you want to pursue a hop up. That would require some regearing.

[Bill from NH]

Marcus, that's a fine looking car. Thanks for sharing the photos!